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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:56 PM
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Miltary Industrial Complex
The term military-industrial complex (MIC) refers to a close and symbiotic relationship between a nation's armed forces, its arms industry, and associated political and commercial interests. In such a system, the military is dependent on industry to supply material and other support, while the defense industry depends on government for a steady revenue stream.
The term is most often used in reference to the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. As pejorative terms, the "MIC" or the "iron triangle" refer to an institutionalised collusion among defense contractors (industry), The Pentagon (military), and the United States government (Congress, Executive branch), as a cartel that works against the public interest, and whose motivation is profiteering.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:58 PM
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1. ..is the "end stage" of a Napoleon Complex.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 03:59 PM by kenny blankenship
also known as Little Man's Disease.
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:59 PM
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2. Make these companies non-profits, period.
Take away the profit motive and we would have only been involved in maybe two wars in the past 100 years.
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cool user name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:00 PM
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3. In essence, it's fascism. n/t
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:00 PM
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4. There's also the "Medical Services Complex" (pharma/hmo's).
Then there is the "Financial Services Complex". Of course the latter two are fairly recent. The MIC is nothing knew. People have been making loads of money off of wars for centuries.
The real problem is that the corporation has too much power. How do we effectively curtail it?
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:02 PM
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5. End Corporate Person-hood, enforce Sherman Anti-Trust Act and the Corporate Death Penalty
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 04:05 PM by Flarney
(trying to channel Thom Hartmann)

I think this is the most important issue we face right now. It's critical to war, global warming, poverty, health care, democracy...every problem we face involves the excessive power of corporations over people.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:15 PM
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7. MIC
I like to refer to it as the "military-industrial-congressional-complex".

Bill Moyers had some expert on PBS a few years ago and I think this was the term Ike was originally going to use in his historic farewell speech.

It makes me sound intelligent and well informed.

-85% jimmy
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sodenoue Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:36 PM
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8. how are corps people?
collusion between like minded individuals intent on scheming and defrauding America.

The European Bankers were pissed at our forefathers and their liberal ideology and have sought to undermine our system of federalism in an attempt to enrich themselves and ultimately destroy the whole nation state concept, replacing it with a one world government in which the war profiteers (bankers, politicians and the like) will assuredly find themselves in a position of authority; perhaps as the governing council of elders who guide our benevolent dictator?

What is clear is that as wealth is distributed into higher concentrations in fewer hands the interests of the few (haves) will naturally diverge from that of the many (have-nots). However with wealth concentrated with the few their feelings of obligation to oblige the many will wane and gradually disappear. The 'elite' members of societies the world round seek to enrich themselves and ensure the continuance of the status-quo. The hoarding continues unabated, resulting from the logic which assumes the scarcity of resources with which we are given to survive. Sharing is unwise because it would lead to sure destruction. What a sick and twisted logic this is, for surely our technological advancements have brought us more output from less in. The fruits of the Earth are many and the destiny of humanity is to become one in a harmonious unity which nourishes all humans in a unity with each other and nature. These avaricious few are the ones who would squander this good fortune with which we have all been bestowed. This is the nexus at which we as a people stand; to transcend our current division and advance as a whole, or to fracture, wither and diminish as selfish regional tribes.

The Military Industrial Complex embodies all that would see us never realize our destined utopia.

Up with Hope! Down with the MIC!


http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~jephrean/classweb/United%20States.html
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 04:14 PM
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6. Thus we are, by definition, a fascist state. Time to wake up and see
what we are. The first step is to admit our problems, then we can start to correct them.
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