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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:24 PM
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Tweety was just talking about the weirdness of "the Homeland"...
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 05:26 PM by originalpckelly
He kept asking where it came from.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:24 PM
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1. Where the weirdness of the Homeland came from? n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:25 PM
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3. the word "Homeland"
editing now
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:31 PM
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8. Sorry...
couldn't resist. :P
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:25 PM
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2. like how it sounds like Fatherland? Thats what it always reminds of.
ick.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:26 PM
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4. Yes, it does sound like some kind of weird propaganda.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:53 PM
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20. I refuse to use..it's some kind
bushregime framing shite..like some of those freakin' names for offensives in IRaq 1& 2.

Try to get us in the mood for a fuerher.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:27 PM
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5. It implies imperialism..a homeland suggests a hinterland also
THAT is where it came from!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:28 PM
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6. Came from the IV reich
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 05:29 PM by Double T
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:32 PM
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10. Self Delete
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 05:34 PM by pdrichards114
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pdrichards114 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:33 PM
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13. It started under Hitler after the Reichstagg fire. He started using the term The Homeland.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:34 PM
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14. yep. Then revived by Hitler's follower.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:29 PM
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7. When I lived in foreign countries, we and the ex-pats always
called America "the States" never did we call it any kind of 'land, no fatherland, no motherland, no homeland. Like Homeland Security would have been called Stateside Security. These new terms are the ones our new Nazis are comfortable with I guess.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:38 PM
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15. same for me
Never used "the States" until staying overseas for a while, where it is the only way to refer back. "Homeland" is definitely creepy, though.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:32 PM
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9. I don't like it. It sounds like something Hitler said.

nt

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:33 PM
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11. I never liked the term "Homeland". Hitler used this phrase....
to distinguish Nazi Germany from all others. It's a very 1984-like term.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:33 PM
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12. If he's talking about its terrible echo of Nazi Germany's "Fatherland"
...he need look no further for an answer.

I hate/loathe/despise with a fiery passion any reference to the USA as the "Homeland" for that reason, never mind it doesn't accurately represent this country's history of being an IMMIGRANT nation. IOW it's biased against anyone who comes from someplace else originally, and also plays to the Repugs who love to discriminate against immigrants while conveniently forgetting that their ancestors were immigrants once too.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:39 PM
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16. It came from the lunacy of the post 9/11 mass social trauma.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 05:40 PM by The_Casual_Observer
And the explotation of it.
As the cloud slowly lifts, the whole thing has left nothing but regrets.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:44 PM
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17. Maybe he's in such a mind-set that
he thinks of Iraq as part of the nation he governs.

To him Iraq is part of America, but here where we live, is "the homeland".
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:45 PM
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18. Gee, yet another thing these butthead pundits are playing "catch-up" on.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:49 PM
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19. Rudman-Hart Report 2001
Hart/Rudman -- 21st Century Commission Recommends New Anti-Terror Cabinet Agency

A bipartisan panel led by former US senators Warren B. Rudman and Gary Hart on Wednesday called for the creation of a Cabinet-level agency to assume responsibility for defending the United States against the increasing likelihood of terrorist attacks in the country. The commission making the recommendation included high-ranking military and former Cabinet secretaries. Their report warned bluntly that terrorists probably will attack the US with nuclear, chemical or biological weapons at some point within the next 25 years.

The commission proposed a complete redesign of the National Guard to provide the proposed new "Homeland Security Agency" with U.S.-based troops to combat those who threaten a nation that for more than two centuries was isolated from attack by two oceans. The panel outlined a far-reaching reorganization of the Pentagon, State Department, National Security Council and other agencies, saying that they have become bloated and unfocused. The report even urged Congress to streamline its own committee structure to keep interference in national security matters at a minimum.

http://www.emergency.com/2001/21stcentury_rpt.htm

This is my earliest reference....it was the report commissioned when Clinton was president and delivered to Bush early in 2001. He tabled it, saying he was, instead, appointing Cheney to head a new study on terrorism.

I didn't like the use of "Homeland" when I first read it on Salon in 2001 and I don't know who introduced it into the report.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:58 PM
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21. The "FATHERLAND"
Der obermensch made it up after 9/11.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:12 PM
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22. Don't want no steenkin fascist republicon Homeland.
I am a patriotic citizen of the United States of America.

It was good enough for my pappy, and my grandpappy, and it's good enough for me.

I don't need nor want no stinkin republicon-fascist Homeland shit.

Why do republicons hate America?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:17 PM
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23. Reminds me of S. Africa and the Homelands there for native people.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:18 PM
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24. Took him long enough.
The brain fog finally starting to clear, Tweets?
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