So waving your painted hands in front of Condi is assaulting a Federal officer

[Toots]

A very serious crime..Do they have no shame at all?

[notadmblnd]

1. unbeliveable

[spotbird]

2. Wow.

Link?

[Junkdrawer]

3. Show Trial! Show Trial! Show Trial!

Who wants to be the next William Kunstler?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Seven

[rucky]

9. Oh, yes. Let's Please drag this one out.

I want that photo shown again and again for as long as possible.

[Bandit]

16. I believe this photo could have as much impact as the Chinese student

Standing in front of the tanks at Tienanmen Square

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. Me too - that's why I added it to my sig line

:)

[bdamomma]

4. watch it here: I am ashamed of all those who just watched this

and did not say shit against this war criminal.

I totally support Code Pink

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Protester_removed_after_screaming_war_criminal_1024.html

and after watching those thugs who arrested them we are a police state, what free speech, I hope those woman keep on with their message we could learn alot from them!

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. One of those ladies is in the hospital

[zabet]

5. So now, not only is

Kindasleazy exempt from the law, she can change the laws
as she sees fit.

Assault without physical contact?!? :wtf:

Nuisance or harassment charges at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

Assault is a crime of violence against another person. In some jurisdictions, including Australia and New Zealand assault refers to an act that causes another to apprehend immediate and personal violence, while in other jurisdictions, such as the United States, assault refers only to the threat of violence caused by an immediate show of force. Simple assaults that do not involve any aggravation such as use of a deadly weapon are distinguished from aggravated assaults in some jurisdictions.

Assault is often defined to include not only violence, but any physical contact with another person without their consent. In Common Law jurisdictions, including England and Wales and the USA, battery is the crime that represents the unlawful physical contact, though this distinction does not exist in all jurisdictions. Exceptions exist to cover unsolicited physical contact which amount to normal social behavior (for example, patting someone on the back): see (in England and Wales) Collins v. Wilcox<1984> 3 All ER 374.

In most jurisdictions, the intention to cause grievous bodily harm (or its equivalent) may amount to the mental requirement to prefer a charge of murder in circumstances where the harm inflicted upon the victim proves fatal. In England and Wales, this fact was criticized by Lord Edmund-Davies in Cunningham <1982> AC 566.

Notice that the terms physical and violence are included in the definition.

[qazplm]

6. well actually assault

as you've linked from wikipedia does not involve physical contact, that is a battery, technically what she did would be an assault IF a Rice reasonably was apprehensive about immediate physical unwanted contact.

Spitting can be assault, a swing and a miss, "rushing" someone, etc.

So no, the law isnt changed, assault requires no physical contact.

This is not that I am defending prosecution in this case because I am definitively not.

[zabet]

7. True but,

Kindasleazy was well aware of the actions of
Code Pink on the Hill. They never resorted to
physical attacks. The protestor clearly had
'Code Pink' on her shirt, identifying her as a
non-violent protestor. Kindasleazy had no fear
of physical harm that would warrant the charges
of assault based on 'fear of harm'.

Just my opinion...then again, Dad always said
I would argue with the Devil if I had a chance.
:hi:

[Bandit]

8. Intimidation

No other explanation for it..If Congress which is Controlled by Democrats allows this to stand then I am ashamed of them..

[Virginia Dare]

37. If Congress wasn't controlled by Democrats..

she'd have never been in the room.

[Bonobo]

10. Some here at DU would say she should/could have been TASED!

[cali]

12. Really?

You wouldn't just be making stuff up and smearing other DUers, would you? Cuz I completely doubt your statement, and I think it's just intended to denigrate.

[Bonobo]

13. Yeah, wanna see a link smartie?

[Bonobo]

14. Here. I'll save you the trouble.

Is there a significant difference here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3041464#3042631

[SidDithers]

15. Your link doesn't support your accusation...nt

Sid

[Bonobo]

17. You can't have read it fully then. Getting as senile as Sid?

[SidDithers]

24. How does this:...

midlife_mo_Jo (570 posts) Thu Oct-25-07 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #42
77. Many of his comments were recorded
The police didn't have to make up anything!

Support your accusation that "Some here at DU would say she should/could have been TASED!"

Sid

[cali]

18. yes. you can't reasonably extrapolate

from those comments that any of those commenting would support tazing the CP lady. Get back to me when someone does, than I'll make my mea culpas.

[Bonobo]

20. Ok, fine. Hmph.

[2rth2pwr]

29. Sign me up- she should have been tased.

no sarcasm

[cali]

11. How typical and how ridiculous

The most she should be charged with is DC.

[Virginia Dare]

36. The WAPO said the charges stemmed from..

her wiping her hands on the walls, after she'd been escorted out. It had nothing to do with what happened in the hearing room.

[LeftCoast]

19. Thought crime?

There was certainly no physical altercation.

[bpeale]

21. that photo was powerful...

and very reminiscent of that vietnam photo of that naked girl running down the street.

[WGS]

25. I don't

see the connection...

[SoCalDem]

43. It's been a rough week for Condi

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2131910&mesg_id=2131910

[mmonk]

22. Nothing but decorum, adoration, respect, and apologies

are allowed when it comes to addressing administration officials.

[Bonobo]

23. You monks have very different ideas about the use of tazers and torture.

[blogslut]

26. Woke up late. Link please?

Was Ms. Fairooz charged with assault?

[blogslut]

28. Nevermind. Found it

link: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/130479.html

"U.S. Capitol Police arrested the woman, 51-year-old Desiree Anita Ali-Fairooz of Los Angeles, and charged her with disorderly conduct, defacing of government property and assault on a federal officer, said police spokeswoman Sgt. Kimberly Schneider."

:hi:

[harun]

27. That charge won't stick, she never touched her and certainly

could have if she wanted to.

[mondo joe]

33. Assault doesn't require physical contact.

The fact that she "certainly could have if she wanted to" actually doesn't help the defense.

I'm glad this happened, and my hope would be that no charges are applied, or if applied they are beat or dropped.

But I also recognize that part of what makes non violent protest powerful is the response of law enforcement.

[Virginia Dare]

35. it was assault on an officer, not on Rice...n/t

[webmatters]

30. No, but assaulting your arresting officer is.

You people have your victims mixed up.

She was charged with assaulting the officer that was detaining her, not waving her hands in front of Rice.

[LanternWaste]

34. Out of curiousity...

Out of curiousity, whom do you refer to with the phrase, "you people"?

[webmatters]

42. eh..

"you people" as in 'you people' who posted in disgust to a post that misrepresented why she was arrested.

You are living in the now aren't you?

[LanternWaste]

46. No I'm a figment of your imagination

"You are living in the now aren't you?"

No I'm a figment of your imagination, and my presence here is a clue from your subconscious that it's time to take your meds...

See? If you;re gonna be uncivil in answering a basic question, people are going to laugh at you...

[webmatters]

48. Earth to LanternWaste

Lol... You do realize you posted this question to me, correct?

"Out of curiousity, whom do you refer to with the phrase, "you people"?"

May I ask, to what standard of civility was your curiosity trying to uphold? I make no judgments on political basis, however, your question was merely an attempt to find a way to smear a participant of this forum. Sorry to disappoint.

[tabasco]

39. I think you have YOUR victims mixed up.

[proud2BlibKansan]

44. MTE

My
Thoughts
Exactly

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. Where did you get that information?

[webmatters]

41. AP, CNN

Read the news report carefully.

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. Love that link!!

[webmatters]

49. Oh the ineptness...

Here you go... this goes into the URL box in your web browser (its that white narrow box at the very top) !

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/bloody-hands-protester-confronts-rice/

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Yes we do post links to back up what we say here

BTW, enjoy your stay! :hi:

[Virginia Dare]

38. The Code Pinkers and the Capitol Hill Police probably have a...

relationship not unlike this old cartoon (from wiki)

Most of the cartoons begin at the beginning of the workday, in which Ralph and Sam go to a meadow where sheep graze, exchange chitchat, and punch into the same time clock. Work having officially begun, Ralph repeatedly tries to abduct the helpless sheep and invariably fails, either through his own ineptitude or the minimal efforts of Sam (who always brutally punishes Ralph for the attempt). At the end-of-the-day whistle, Sam and Ralph punch out their time cards, chat amiably, and leave, presumably only to come back the next day and do it all again. Both Sam and Ralph are performed by voice actor Mel Blanc. In at least one instance, the workday is interrupted by a lunch break which they conducted amiably. The operation seems to run 24 hours a day or at least into another shift, as when Ralph and Sam "punch out" they may also run into their replacements for the rest of the day, Bret and Enoch, respectively. In some of their earlier appearances Sam and Ralph are named inconsistently: in particular the Sheepdog's shift replacement sometimes addresses him as "Ralph".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sheepdog_and_Ralph_Wolf

[tlsmith1963]

47. I Saw That in the Newspaper

It made my day after several days of fire stress (I'm in San Diego). Awesome!:thumbsup:

I'm referring to the protester & what she did.