Giuliani: "liberal newspapers have exaggerated" waterboarding

[sabra]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/10/giuliani-leaves.html

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Speaking at a town hall meeting in Davenport, Iowa, Giuliani was asked whether he agreed with U.S. Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey on the subject of waterboarding. Mukasey said during his confirmation hearings last Thursday that he was not certain waterboarding was torture.

“I’m not sure it is either, it depends on how it is done,” said Giuliani who is a longtime friend of Mukasey. “It depends on the circumstances. It depends on who does it.”

The former New York City Mayor and Justice Department official during the Reagan Administration went on to say he thought the “liberal media” might not be describing waterboarding correctly.

“Sometimes they describe it accurately, sometimes the exaggerate it,” said Giuliani. “So I’d have to see what the real… what they really are doing. Not the way some of these liberal newspapers have exaggerated it.”

Giuliani was clear to point out that the United States should not be involved in torture.

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1. "It depends on who does it"

Seems that it's only torture if somebody else does it to one of us.

[Kagemusha]

9. Yeah. Exactly.

Rudy's such a jerk on so many levels.

[Javaman]

10. yeah when the nazi's did it, it was bad...

when we do it, it's not.

:banghead:

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. Wow - there's a quote that opponents should be able to use against him

It not only shows he's as dumb as a shovel of shit, it also shows he's basically evil.

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15. It might be effective in the general election.

but his comments will be supported by most repukes.

[rurallib]

2. Maybe a demo on Ghouli hisself at every campaign stop

Just to prove how exaggerated it is.

[LiberalEsto]

3. OK Rudy, YOU try it

Let's see how you like it, Mayor Loudmouth!

[woodsprite]

4. I have an idea - they set up a waterboarding table in

the House and Senate and all the Pres candidates - everyone has to experience it before they vote. Kinda like the dunk tank at school fairs. Anybody remember having to line up in gym for something you dreaded but couldn't get out of (it was the diving test for me)? That's what I'm thinking. Then they wouldn't have to rely on what people were telling them about it and they'd certainly know if the reporters were reporting it accurately. Nothing like first hand experience.

[GodlessBiker]

5. It depends on who does it? Yes, that remark is telling.

[Window]

6. Why not demonstrate on his and Mukasey's ass

and then decide whether or not it's torture or just "liberal exaggeration."






Peace:thumbsup:

[GeminiProgressive]

7. if the Dems were a real opposition

they would set up a replica of it in the House and show the American people exactly what it is.

[sniffa]

8. then he shouLd demonstrate for us

Like when the cops do it taser each other to show it's no big deaL.

[spanone]

11. wow, this nation is in the shitter when a presidential hopeful shills for TORTURE

[unpossibles]

12. I agree he should demonstrate - in fact, that all should experience it

I'd be willing to give anyone a pass if they are strongly anti-torture.

We should all write to the New York Times, to Guiliani, to our representatives in Congress, and to local papers asking for our representatives to experience it to show us how harmless it is.

[Jim__]

13. Article 1 from Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or

Punishment:

For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions. (more...)

Giuliani is a liar. But, we already knew that.

[Bitwit1234]

16. Quick --- tell me the name of a liberal newspaper

I'll get a subscription.

[merh]

17. Will he volunteer to be our "suspect" so that we can demonstrate

the proper way to waterboard?

jackass - you cannot explain away waterboarding - it didn't work in Salem and was determined to be cruel and inhumane centuries ago and nothing has changed today.

they all make me sick :grr:

[Ravy]

18. If he doesn't know what is being done, how can he claim that they are

exaggerating it?

“Sometimes they describe it accurately, sometimes the exaggerate it,” said Giuliani. “So I’d have to see what the real… what they really are doing. Not the way some of these liberal newspapers have exaggerated it.”