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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:16 AM Original message |
Breathing theories |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think there is another aspect in the motive to out Plame |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Wow. Is it three years already??? Man we're gettin old. n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yep. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
91. Well, we've also had more recent conclusions that David Kelly did NOT commit suicide too! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. I remember the essay that you posted here. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. While I would |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
81. I think historians will look at your work on Plame here, along with that of a number of DUers, |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
90. I also seem to remember the accusation that the Bush Administration ... |
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dickbearton (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Call anyone crazy, who doesn't think the Criminal Bush involved in the Plame Outing Treason. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #62 |
88. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. "Both wars have been planned for over a decade". At first I couldn't believe DoD was this dumb... |
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OceanChick (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm proud to be an old hippie and conspiracy theorist |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Thanks. |
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OceanChick (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Wow, that's an interesting theory |
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OceanChick (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. sorry, dupe |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. It started well before that. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. The Problem With Trying To DeBunk 'Conspiracy' Theories |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The combined words |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Propaganda vs. Truth |
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Yodananda Samadhi (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
80. I must be too far out on the lunatic fringe to have |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Do you know the history of the phrase "conspiracy theory" used to discredit? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. The very phrase "conspiracy theory" has been framed to |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Fer sure |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
77. Personally I see a conspiracy going on in that regard everyday. |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
11. Not all theories are created equally |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. True. |
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OceanChick (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. Kickety kick |
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Hun Joro (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. Kick |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Thank you. n/t |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. "if the Government has nothing to hide, why does it hide everything?" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Huge amounts |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. yes, I just got it at Target 2 days ago |
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OceanChick (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes, I will buy it too |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Also... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. That is at the center of many things |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R as usual. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The new book |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I'm off to the bookstore on the way home to pick up plame and wolf |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. The Old Plame Threads - For Anyone Who Is Interested |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thank you. |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
83. Thanks! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Oh man! I remember being called all sorts of names... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Yep. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
21. Was Richard Armitage part of the |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. What do you think |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. This is how most "truthers" like to answer questions- |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Ha! |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Do we do that? n/t |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. LOL! Nice one! |
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Yodananda Samadhi (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
79. The great challenge is to know things as they really are. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Using a point to show that a point is not a point is not as good as using |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. Conspiracies happen. But grand conspiracies are rare at best |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I am not |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The Plame scandal is the result of a limited conspiracy |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I agree in |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Oh I would say it goes farther |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I again agree |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I was of course refering to them as they see themselves |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
82. If you would care to read through the extensive threads on the topic... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. was this a grand conspiracy? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. It was an attempt to establish a grand conspiracy |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. nt |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Why, you crazy conspiracy theorist! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I got it last night. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. conspiracy theories get harder and harder to prove as time passes. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Right. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
39. k&r |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. There's a difference between 'conspiracy theorist' and a theory about a conspiracy. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Interesting. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The term "conspiracy theorist" is certainly used to demean others. Professionals must theorize,... |
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WHAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. life would be so boring without speculation.... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. A questioning mind |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. Conspiracies work when like minded people are galvanized by self-interest or a "noble cause" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. That is similar |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Thanks. Haven't read this book yet, but I've been curious. n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
60. I see conspiracies daily... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. In any large operation, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Sure... |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. What you don't know can't hurt you |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Many JFK debunkers are now in CYA mode since the Joannides revelation |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. Today on CNN Valerie Plame said that the Administration is guilty of Treasonous behavior.... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Is that what she said? nt |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Something to that effect, and she used the word treason... |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. She Said It Flat Out On Hardball |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. The preponderance of evidence and inductive thinking can only lead to a conspiracy |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. Yoko Ono |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
72. How many rifles did the Warren Commission report acknowledge finding at the Schoolbook depository? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #72 |
89. I hope the Jersey Girls haven't given up. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. That's all they're asking for. It's a miracle they haven't shunted this to the dungeon by now |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. ..so many conspiracies: so many left wing gatekeepers and so little time...... |
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Lochloosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
84. Morning Kick for a great conversation. |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
85. I like your posts but let me kindly disagree. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
86. ttt n/t |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
92. Thank you. "Conspiracy theorist" has been made a pejorative |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
93. There was a time when most learned men dismissed the THEORY of germs |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. ...and now it's still difficult to get Drs to wash their hands btw visits to patients ! nt |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Well, they can't go about believing in little critters that are invisible! |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
94. Bugliosi will be on c-span/BookTV In Depth Nov. 4, live for three hours taking calls. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Google up Richard Belzer's blog re JFK and Bugliosi's book |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
95. Thought crimes |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
96. Thank you, Sir. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
102. Check out kpete's most excellent post re Bobby Kennedy on JFK |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
104. Kicking |
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