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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:03 PM Original message |
What is going on in this place? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. We are Democrats. This is what we do. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I disagree. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Only the tactics, IMO, some have learned well from BUSHCO. |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. This is human nature on the Internet |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. It's true. Dems disagree. |
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amitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. Full moon, y'know. n/t |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. . |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I never once claimed to be perfect, bobbolink. (nt) |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. "Let there be peace, and let it begin with me." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Exactly! |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well you are the one whining like a Libertarian |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. A fine example of what is going on here. n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:11 PM Original message |
No I'm not. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Well said... and I'll take that one step further... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Please don't try to turn this into another California thread. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I don't want to get into a big pissing match |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. According to the OP, that line of talk is not welcome on this thread |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Why are you doing that? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. You are a control freak... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Why not say that you think I have "control issues"? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
77. Oh jeeeeeeeeez!!!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Wasn't taking personal offense... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. Well done... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Uh, oh...I'll shut up, then. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I'm used to the "let's belittle those wealthy Californians" crowd |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Your insurance won't increase...it's SUBSIDIZED!!! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I guess we Massachusettsians need to hop on that bandwagon! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. LOL!!! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. Jesus, your property taxes are a bargain--I shit you not! |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. I hope those schools aren't tax-funded. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Well, if you lived in the ghetto... |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
96. Is your house inside the city, or in the hills? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm willing to bet that similar words were uttered... |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
71. Politics is like that. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. That last thought... |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. I agree. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. Battle Fatigue for us ground troops |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Yes... but we can't afford to turn on each other... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. "We have too much to lose." |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I never meant to crucify you... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You said very hurtful things, in order to "win" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. I'm sorry... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. no matter what we need to support each other, too much shit |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Medic! |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. That's what I think |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. Talk about irony. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Not enough information. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
103. Agree. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think there is a balance between compassion and standing up for one's values/beliefs even if |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Yes, good point... there is a balance. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. ONe person's definition of "troublemaker" is another person's definition of "free speech" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. If they don't agree with your POV... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. I think there's a big difference between not agreeing |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I find that ironic, redqueen |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I never said I wasn't, though... that's part of my point. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
78. LOL!!! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Really? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
108. someone who "got it". |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
105. Did you check the destination stamped on your ticket? |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Yep. But when free speech is saying to bomb Iran or kill all Iraqi insurgents or |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
106. We can have BOTH a big tent, and common courtesy. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
19. One viewpoint: |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I disagree. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. We're still supporting a 2-party system... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Well it's all we have here, unfortunately... |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
20. people have egos, even democrats/liberals |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. YES! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Yet, we claim to be soooo different. Being truly different takes much commitment, and much |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
30. I have a theory, or two. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Not a bad theory... |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. Something has been different lately. Vicious, hateful, and mean. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Yes... almost every thread... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. Anyone feeling that it's getting too much should take a break |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I pop in here and there... sometimes more, sometimes less. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
43. Boy do I agree with you! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Yes, up to now I blamed it on the primary wars... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. Well then. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Oh, man... |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
54. I think we have quite a frew spies on the journal and they are |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Even discounting any trolls... bashing just isn't productive. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
55. There's a Reason You're Not Supposed to Discuss Politics or Religion at Parties. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Not hurt feelings... lack of communication. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
59. I believe I've tangled with you before RQ |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I know very well that I'm a hothead. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
67. Same as it ever was...nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Yeah? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
70. you are absolutely right- and |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
73. It would be nice to see us approach each other in good faith.... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. "Ignore List" people who are total assholes, end of problem! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Very good point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
83. As someone who read me the riot act in a thread recently, I'm glad to hear you've changed your tune |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Yep. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
86. Here's what I think |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I so totally agree! |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
87. redqueen |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
90. Is it my imagination, or did you get incredibly nasty yourself (with me) |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
91. There are people here who love to provoke. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well, good luck with that-there are a LOT of stubborn people around here. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
93. I think I disagree. |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
94. Redqueen, with respects |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
95. Primary season is always about primaries, and primaries alone. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
97. There is a lot of justified fear, anger and frustration amongst us. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
98. Everything I wanted to know about this OP, I learned today, from my puppies. Really! |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Interesting observation. Maybe everyone has been driven to |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. No; but I do believe it's only temporary. Once we have control, it'll all change. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
99. Two words. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
104. 7 years of propoganda breeds reactionaries |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
107. I totally agree, and I'm guilty |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-27-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
109. Oh...just about the same thing as always. |
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