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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:25 PM
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On Visit to France, Donald Rumsfeld Hit with Lawsuit for Ordering, Authorizing Torture

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MICHAEL RATNER: The big difference with this case and the other cases is Rumsfeld is actually in France. And when an alleged torturer goes into a country, but particularly France, the obligation on the prosecutor to begin an investigation is much stronger than in other cases of so-called universal jurisdiction...

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MICHAEL RATNER: Well, he’s charged with torture. I mean, he’s charged that he basically was both directly involved in torture, which is to say he wrote memos, he set down the Rumsfeld techniques, which are all those techniques we’ve talked about at Guantanamo and other places, of chaining to the floor, stripping, hooding, dogs, etc. So he’s charged with the memos, the techniques, and actually personally involvement in torture, and particularly in Mohamed Al-Kahtani’s case, who’s currently at Guantanamo and who was tortured, as far as we understand, under his direction.

We also have in this case Janis Karpinski, who, as people may remember, was in charge of the prisons in Iraq, was willing to be a witness against Donald Rumsfeld in this case. So it’s a very strong case. This is not -- the evidence here -- I don’t think there’s an issue, Juan. I mean, this guy is a torturer-in-chief. And the only question is whether the French, with their heavy obligation now to either prosecute or extradite Rumsfeld to a place where he can be prosecuted or should be, will actually comply with the law.

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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:28 PM
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1. I sure hope they throw him into a dungeon somewhere in France...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:30 PM
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2. Perhaps they have room in the Bastille?
;)
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:43 PM
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4. Perfect...and they should fit him with an iron mask.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:58 PM
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7. isnt he already wearing one?
Sorry, couldn't resist a cheap shot at Rumsferatu
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 02:42 PM
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9. heh heh heh . good one.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:36 PM
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3. General Karpinski, you are one brave woman!
The scapegoat of the empire until now.
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RogueBandit Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:48 PM
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5. "Make A Deal"
So France is going to get some really nice stuff. Might be money, might be weapons and delivery systems, might be toys for their big shots...you know they aren't going to keep him.

He must have know this was sitting there waiting for him to show up, and if that is so he wouldn't have shown up if he didn't have a trump card. On the other hand, these people do seem to be very prideful, smug and stupid...so who knows.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:50 PM
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6. Send him to the Chateau d' If!

:D
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 01:59 PM
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8. He'll like it there
He can get water boarding and thumb screws from room service.
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