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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:40 PM
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Giants meet to counter US power (Russia, China, India)
More of those durn "unforeseen consequences". But, I like the idea of a "multipolar world". The more the better.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1386812.ece

India, China and Russia account for 40 per cent of the world’s population, a fifth of its economy and more than half of its nuclear warheads. Now they appear to be forming a partnership to challenge the US-dominated world order that has prevailed since the end of the Cold War.

Foreign ministers from the three emerging giants met in Delhi yesterday to discuss ways to build a more democratic “multipolar world”.

It was the second such meeting in the past two years and came after an unprecedented meeting between their respective leaders, Manmohan Singh, Hu Jintao and Vladimir Putin, during the G8 summit in St Petersburg in July.

Another is energy. India and China are desperate for Russian oil and gas, and Moscow is worried about its dependence on Western markets. But their most significant common ground is opposition to US military intervention in Iran. The joint statement did not mention Iran, but the three countries have taken a common stance in calling for a negotiated solution through the International Atomic Energy Agency. None of them wants a nuclear-armed Iran, but Russia sells Tehran nuclear technology and India and China need Iranian gas.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:45 PM
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1. Yep, he's a uniter all right ...
... Uniting the rest of the world against us. :(
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:55 PM
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7. amazing what Chimpy can accomplish...
:9
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:54 PM
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2. Have you read the article by Paul Craig Roberts
In CounterPunch, "How the World Can Stop Bush"
It has probably been posted here.
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02122007.html
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:55 PM
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3. We knew this was coming.
chimpy won't be happy till we're all dead.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:12 PM
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4. So an Iran invasion will trigger World War III?
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:27 PM
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5. If Russia and China step up for Iran
anything is possible.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:47 PM
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6. I imagine they've just about had enough of U.S. bullshit by now.
I could be off here, but I seem to remember reading something that before the Iraq invasion Russia and France were in negotiation with Saddam Hussein to modernize Iraq's oil industry, for which in return they would receive favored trade status (or something like that) for Iraq's oil. It explains the rush to invade Iraq (among many other reasons) -- a preemptive strike to keep U.S. oil interests in control of Iraq reserves. I can't see Russia letting that happen again, and in their own backyard no less.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:06 AM
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8. Brazil/Argentina/Venezuela and others are in talks on a South American
"Common Market" and common currency (to get off the US dollar). (I'm pretty sure that's one of two main reasons Bush is going to Brazil on his very limited "tour" of South America--the other being to get the Andean democracies' oil, gas, minerals and other resources out of the hands of the people of those countries, and back under fascist control, by death squad/civil war, I should think--$3.9 billion MORE to Colombian paramilitaries and drug lords).

Combine the clout of a South American "Common Market" with China (owns a lot of US debt paper), India (getting lots of the US's best jobs, booming economy, booming middle class), and Russia (lots of oil, and lots of nukes), and you have one whopper of a coalition to crash the US dollar the moment Bush/Cheney make a move on Iran. Not even counting some other countries (for instance, southern European countries and Turkey which are downwind of any Bush/Cheney nukes at Iran, and would be impacted also by big refugee problems from nuke or non-nuke conflagration), who would be motivated to punish the US for any such attack. Plus Middle Eastern countries with the POSSIBLE exception of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE. Syria, Egypt, Pakistan--all would be greatly adversely affected by Bush/Cheney war on Iran. And if Israel's leadership had any sense, they would oppose the Bush Junta as well, military aid or no military aid. They would be the big losers in the Middle East if Bush/Cheney start a hot war on Islam.

And guess who suffers if the world steps in? They won't fight the US. They don't have to. It would be economic punishment--which Bush/Cheney have set us up for. THEY no doubt have put all their booty into foreign currency, and no doubt have plush hideaways in many places, built and secured with US taxpayers' money (--or I guess I should say, future US taxpayers' money).

Well, our country may be a tattered ruin by the time we get rid of the Bush Junta, but at least we'll have our country back. Then maybe, some day, a couple of centuries from now, we might even regain a position of leadership in the world, on items like the Geneva Conventions and democracy.

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