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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:26 AM
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top 5 myths about america
found on craigslist, if it's been posted before, please ignore.

the overall rants and raves section can be very unmoderated at times.

Top 5 Myths About America
Reply to: pers-461971735@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-10-28, 9:50AM CDT




Top 5 Myths About America

MYTH 1: The US was founded on Christian principles.
TRUTH:
This is incorrect.

The Constitution never once mentions a deity, because the Founding Fathers wanted to keep their new country "religion-neutral." Our Founding Fathers were an eclectic collection of Atheists, Deists, Christians, Freemasons and Agnostics.



George Washington, the Father of our country, and John Adams (Second President of the USA) CLEARLY stated in the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion.”



G.W. rarely attended church and instead followed a popular 18th century philosophy called Deism—a Star Wars-esque philosophy that believed in a cosmic energy or big-ass universal "Force." The dictionary says that Deism is "a system of thought advocating natural religion based on human reason rather than revelation," that had nothing to do with Christian principles.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/rnr/461971735.html
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 AM
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1. I always ask, "Which Christian principles are you talking about?"
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 AM by IMModerate
Once I called a Christian station after I had heard that remark, and asked that question. The person thought for a moment and answered, "Jesus is the Lord of the Universe!"

Usually I get blank fumbling.

Actually, there are no Christian principles, per se. Jesus, assuming he actually existed, preached the Jewish ethics of the day, which apparently was a contrast with the Romans and the contemporary Jewish power structure.

--IMM
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:38 AM
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2. Myth #6: The old Republic of America still exists.
Other than meaningless window dressing, it does not.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:39 AM
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3. The United States
was not founded on the Constitution.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:45 AM
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4. Explain?!?
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:51 AM
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6. The Constitution didn't come into effect until 89, after several years
under the Articles of Confederation. The Articles were largely unsuccessful, however the beaurocrats still liked it. When it came under review, it was supposed to be amended, but they ended up throwing the whole thing out and came up with the Constitution. The Bill of Rights was added to appease the anti-federalists.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 11:07 AM
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7. the preamble seeks form a more perfect union
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

the union already exists.


the constitution is the body of the law for the United States and a formation-era document.

but yes, the United States existed before publication of the constitution.

do you think this same constitution could be drafted by the today's politicians?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 11:15 AM
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8. Today?
I do not think there are a dozen people in Congress that could pick the Constitution out of a police line-up. Ans half of those would demand that charges be pressed against it, based upon the Patriot Act.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:48 AM
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5. GW was the 1st POTUS under our "current constitution", there was a president under our previous
form of government.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 11:21 AM
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9. Myth #7: The wealthy in America got that way by hard work & determination.
The poor have no one to blame but themselves for being poor: if they weren't so stupid & lazy, they wouldn't be poor.

FACT: the rich are that way from one of three reason: they inherited it; they stole it; or they've been very, very, very lucky. Most people work hard, do everything they're supposed to do - and they still barely get by. Being middle-class sliding into poverty is the norm in America.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:42 PM
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13. If you want get rich or get someplace, start building rickshaw's, the future in transportation. n/t
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:21 PM
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10. We're fed so many lies about our own culture.
Recommended. And printed.

:kick:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:31 PM
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11. Most laughable myth: "The land of the free and the home of the brave"
See the "Patriot Act" for details.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 12:37 PM
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12. My view of what the rest of the world thinks of my country isn't shaped by what others think, but
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 12:39 PM by Heidi
it's true that the rest of the world snickers at our whole "land of the free, home of the brave" thing. It's so self-servingly nationalistic and patently untrue of late that it's pathetic.
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