Huckabee on CNN: Americans believe that all life has worth and value.

[The Backlash Cometh]

Do Republican policies reflect this belief that all life has worth and value? Huckabee's comments were in regard to abortion, which he considers a holocaust.

[mwb970]

1. He confused beliefs with actions.

Huckabee said that the belief that every life is special is "what America has always been about". I think that this is what America has always told itself it's about (we're special!) but the reality is sometimes different.

Choose your own example - I thought of the Gilded Age and social Darwinism, when every life was special, unless you were poor.

[Skidmore]

2. He's such a slick, smarmy bastard and in only the way

small town fundamentalist hucksters can be. It's like staring down a cobra. Add Blitzer to the mix, and it's like watching a cult follower suck up to the leader.

[NNN0LHI]

19. Perfectly said n/t

[zabet]

3. Huh....

he has not seen me around a spider then.
Good spider = Dead spider



Disclaimer: Except the garden spiders in
my flower beds.

[Warpy]

4. Huckabee sees a pregnant woman as an animated flowerpot

with no right to life, liberty, or the ability to pursue happiness. She has no right to protect her life, her health, her finances, her career, or her social support system from the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. He simply eradicates her and cancels all her rights as a human being.

If you want to reduce half the human population to the status of mindless object, then Huckabee is your guy.

Sadly, he's the best the right has to offer this election season.

[BushOut06]

5. I certainly believe that all life has worth and value

Why is it that so many conservatives who claim to value life, have no problem at all sending thousands of American youths to their deaths overseas, or are staunchly in favor of the DEATH penalty?

[acmavm]

10. Or are against helping that poor child that's come into the world in a

family with nothing?

How many times does it have to be said, once a child peeks it's little head out into the cold cruel world, no one cares. Especially republicans.

[TahitiNut]

6. "All the animals are equal but some are more equal than others."

:shrug: After all, after the infant leaves the womb, it's a SINNER! :crazy:

[malaise]

7. All except those brown people in Iraq I guess

:puke:

[tanyev]

9. And poor people on the Gulf Coast.

[malaise]

12. Correct n/t

[devilgrrl]

8. Yeah, in Mike's world the level of "worth & value" depend on that person's income.

eom

[opihimoimoi]

11. Is he braindead...he still using that shit...these fuckers jus don't learn do they? ITS PASSE

GET OVER IT guy...it ain't working no mo....

[tomg]

13. What he forgot was the disclaimer:

this offer void in Iraq and selected parts of the Middle East.

[iamahaingttta]

14. A holocaust?

Jesus Titty-Fucking Christ, Mike! It's just not that big an issue! And it would be less of an issue if it were safe, legal and rare. And it WOULD be much rarer than it is now if young people were properly educated so that they understood the value and use of contraception. Don't you idiot fundie preacher types get this? You want a world full of idiot consumer zombies, and then you complain when people act like idiot consumer zombies!

Fuck you, Mike, and fuck all the ignoramus douche bags who believe in the same bullshit you believe in. The kind of bullshit that has absolutely zero thought behind it...

[ljm2002]

15. And once again we see the power of framing...

...the rabid right has succeeded in equating abortions with the Holocaust, thus allowing them to claim the moral high ground.

It is terribly effective, this particular frame, and we need to find a counter. Doesn't matter how often we cite statistics showing that legalized abortion (not to mention birth control) tends to decrease the number of abortions -- makes no difference, because the issue has been framed as a moral one, and in many people's minds they equate it with "killing millions of innocent children".

This cannot be fought with logic. I think that is the trap we fall into in general -- believing that we can hammer home our position based on logic. But that never works in the political arena. We need to figure out a counter-frame.

For one thing, we should NEVER refer to the other side as "pro-life". That is their chosen moniker, therefore, shun it like the plague. Rather ALWAYS refer to them as "anti-choice", since that is what they are. Also back it up with emotional stories of women who may have to make this painful choice for reasons that are hard to argue with -- like the fetus dies in utero, ectopic pregnancy, no brain, those sorts of things.

In my opinion, what the rabid right does that we do not, is to successfully create NARRATIVES. People respond to stories, and if the stories are moral fables, they will nod their heads in agreement, as long as it is presented in a way to reinforce the narrative by appealing to what people see as the moral good. We have to find the moral good on our side, and present that as a narrative that people can absorb and agree with on a subconscious level.

It is true that this is a hallmark of demagoguery, and one wants to be careful -- but we are fighting the most successful demagogues ever. The difference is that we DO have logic and truth on our side, we just have to learn how to appeal at a more basic level.

[napi21]

16. I'd like to ask Huck how he feels about the death penalty.

How he feels about innocents being killed in war. Is THAT not also LIFE?????

[Rosemary2205]

17. I joyfully murder ants on a daily basis.

I've killed Billions in the last 26 years of living in this house and I plan to murder billions more. I don't care what Huckabee thinks. I WILL NOT share my kitchen with a nest of ants.

[lonestarnot]

18. Guess puglicons are unAmerican then, having our troops continue to fight the war of lies.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. All Life? Ha! Ask the 100,000s of dead Iraqis about this laugher!

Love the fetus, hate the child.......

:grr:

[C_U_L8R]

21. Whereas the holocaust in Iraq means what?

Huckleberry needs to go look for a different job

[Bitwit1234]

22. But yet he supports

the executions of people, denying children health benefits, letting people in New Orleans drown, the killing of innocents in Iraq, the torture of mostly innocents that bushco have collected. But abortion is not to be supported...again....the selectivity of republicans when it comes to trying to get a vote.