FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds: 'I Will Tell All, & Name (new) Names'

[lukery]

Former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has promised to tell us everything she knows about treason at the highest level of the US government - with one proviso:

"Here's my promise to the American Public: If anyone of the major networks --- ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX --- promise to air the entire segment, without editing, I promise to tell them everything that I know."

Edmonds, "the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America," has been trying to expose criminal activity, treason, at the highest levels of the US Government - Congress, Pentagon and State Dept - since she became aware of the crimes in 2001 and 2002.

Edmonds has exhausted every conceivable channel in the courts, Congress, and elsewhere, and is now willing to risk criminal charges to ensure that the American people learn how their government really 'works.'

BradBlog has the exclusive

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From Brad Blog (in full, with permision)

EXCLUSIVE: FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds Will Now Tell All - and Faces Charges if Necessary - to Any Major Television Network That Will Let Her

She's Prepared to Name Names, Including Those of Two 'Well-Known' Congress Members Involved in Criminal Corruption

The 'Most Gagged Person in U.S. History' Tells The BRAD BLOG She's Now Exhausted All Other Channels...

-- By Brad Friedman

Attention CBS 60 Minutes: we've got a huge scoop for you. If you want it.

Remember the exclusive story you aired on Sibel Edmonds, originally on October 27th, 2002, when she was not allowed to tell you everything that she heard while serving as an FBI translator after 9/11 because she was gagged by the rarely-invoked "States Secret Privilege"? Well, she's still gagged. In fact, as the ACLU first described her, she's "the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America".
But if you'll sit down and talk with her for an unedited interview, she has told The BRAD BLOG, she will now tell you everything she knows.

Everything she hasn't been allowed to tell since 2002, about the criminal penetration of the FBI where she worked, and at the Departments of State and Defense; everything she heard concerning the corruption and illegal activities of several well-known members of Congress; everything she's aware of concerning information omitted and/or covered up in relation to 9/11. All of the information gleaned from her time listening to and translating wire-taps made prior to 9/11 at the FBI.

Here's a handy bullet-point list, as we ran it in March of 2006, for reference, of what she's now willing to tell you about.

"People say, 'why doesn't she just come forward and spill the beans?' I have gone all the way to the Supreme Court and was shut down, I went to Congress and now consider that shut down," she told The BRAD BLOG last week when spoke with her for comments in relation to our story on former House Speaker Dennis Hastert's original attempt to move a resolution through the U.S. House in 2000 declaring the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million ethnic Albanians in Turkey as "genocide".

"Here's my promise to the American Public: If anyone of the major networks -- ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX -- promise to air the entire segment, without editing, I promise to tell them everything that I know," about everything mentioned above, she told us.

"I can tell the American public exactly what it is, and what it is that they are covering up," she continued. "I'm not compromising ongoing investigations," Edmonds explained, because "they've all been shut down since."

"She's Very Credible"

She has, in fact, spent years taking every reasonable step to see that the information she has goes through the proper channels. The Supreme Court refused to hear her whistleblower lawsuit, even in light of the Department of Justice forcing the removal of both her and her own attorneys from the courtroom when they made their arguments concerning why it was that still had to remain gagged under the "States Secrets Privilege."

On the morning that the SCOTUS refused to hear her case, the facade cracked on the front of the building. In a ridiculously ironic metaphor which would have been rejected by any credible screen-writer, a chunk of marble -- just above an allegorical statue representing "Order" and just below the words "Equal Justice" -- came crashing to the ground.

She has met with, and told her story to, U.S. Senators including Republican Charles Grassley and Democrat Patrick Leahy, both of the Senate Intelligence Committee, both who found her extremely credible. 60 Minutes producers may remember when Grassley told them, "Absolutely, she's credible...And the reason I feel she's very credible is because people within the FBI have corroborated a lot of her story."

In fact, the FBI itself has done so. Their Inspector General found her allegations, as described in the unclassified version of his report, to be "credible", "serious" and "warrant a thorough and careful review by the FBI."

As far back as 2002, Grassley and Leahy co-wrote letters on Edmonds behalf to Attorney General John Ashcroft, FBI Director Robert Mueller, and DoJ Inspector General Glenn A. Fine, calling on all of them to take action in respect to the allegations she's made.

"Certain officials in this country are engaged in treason against the United States and its interests and its national security," she said during an interview an August 2005 interview on Democracy Now. That comment followed 60 Minutes' revelation years before alleging that Edmonds had information revealing that a "Turkish intelligence officer" she worked with at the FBI "had spies working for him inside the US State Department and at the Pentagon."

She's briefed many legislative offices -- as well as the 9/11 Commission -- in regard to her claims, and now, she says, she's even prepared to tell the media "the names of every single Congressional office who has received the names of the witnesses" to the crimes she's detailed.

When we spoke last week, Edmonds seemed to reserve most of her frustration for Congressman Henry Waxman's office. Waxman is the Democratic Chairman of the U.S. House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.

After briefing members of his security-cleared staff "inside the SCIF" -- a high-security room in the U.S. Capitol, specially created for discussion of highly sensitive information -- Edmonds says she was told on several occassions, prior to the 2006 Election, that her case would be one of the first heard in his committee, once he became Chairman.

"I even gave names of former and current FBI agents who were willing to go to Waxman's office and give more information on all of this," she said.

"Before the elections, I had a promise from Congressman Waxman's office." She claims they told her, before the election, "the only reason they couldn't hold hearings, was because the Republicans were blocking it."

"They said 'your case will be one of the first ones we will hold investigations on,'" she told us. Now, however, since the Democrats have become the majority in the House, Waxman's office is "going mum". They won't even respond to her calls.

The Congressman's office did not respond to several requests for comment on this story.

Two Other "Well-Known" Congressmen

Aside from the allegations she's already made concerning Hastert, as we reported in some detail in early 2006, following up on a Vanity Fair exposé in 2005, Edmonds says there are at least "two other well-known" members of Congress that she's prepared to name as well.

"There are other Congressional people, whose names have not come out," she explained. "As I'll be able to give them file numbers and investigations, including investigations by the IRS. I will be giving details one by one, not just allegations."

"But," she added, "unfortunately nobody wants to have an investigation like that."

For the record, she told The BRAD BLOG, the other two "well-known members" are from the House, both Republican, and "one of them is recently no longer there."

So far, she says, "those names have not been public."

"Kafka-esque"

Since leaving the FBI, and in the wake of her years-long ordeal, which she frequently describes as "Kafka-esque", Edmonds has founded the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition

In addition to the support she has received, at various times, from members of Congress, she's received a great deal of support from members of the national security whistleblower community and government watchdog organizations.

As we reported last Spring, Veteran FBI counterintelligence agent, John Cole has said he's "talked to people who had read her file, who had read the investigative report, and they were telling me a totally different story" than that given publicly by FBI officials. "They were telling me that Sibel Edmonds was 100 percent accurate," he said, "management knew that she was correct."

Famed "Pentagon Papers" whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg has described Edmonds as "extremely credible." In a 2005 interview on KPFA, Ellsberg said, "FBI agents we've talked to have, in every respect that was raised, have confirmed her story - that she's a very credible witness."

More than 30 groups, from across the political spectrum -- including the Project on Government Oversight (POGO), Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the September 11th Advocates, the Liberty Coalition, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), OMB Watch, Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) and People for the American Way (PFAW) -- all signed a letter in March of this year calling on the House Oversight Committee to "hold public hearings into the case of FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, and the erroneous use of the State Secrets Privilege to shut down all court proceedings in her case."

That petition was sent almost precisely one year after The BRAD BLOG originally reported on a public petition to Congress, demanding they hold public hearings. More than 30,000 people, Edmonds says, have now signed that petition since it was first announced.

"Exhausted Every Channel"

In a speech given over the Summer in D.C. at the American Library Association (ALA, video here), Edmonds detailed the "Kafka-esque" nature of her unprecedented gag-order. Among the information still-regarded as "classified" under the States Secret Privelege: the fact that she was a translator for the FBI, where she was born, what languages she speaks, the date of her birth, the universities she attended and the degrees she earned.

In fact, the interview that CBS' 60 Minutes aired with her in 2004, was later retroactively classified by the Department of Justice under the same "privilege"!

But enough is enough. She's now ready to tell all. To the public. But not (yet) to us. She will speak, however, to any broadcast network who would like to have her.

"I have exhausted every channel. If they want to, they can bring criminal charges against someone who divulges criminal activity, and see how far they're going to get."

But will any of the corporate mainstream networks take her up on the offer? It'd certainly be an explosive exclusive.

"I don't think any of the mainstream media are going to have the guts to do it," she dared them.

So whaddaya say 60 Minutes? We've given you scoops before that you ended up turning down -- and likely later regretted. Will you be smart enough to take this one?

"You put me on air live, or unedited. If I'm given the time, I will give the American people the exact reason of what I've been gagged from saying because of the States Secrets Privilege, and why it is that I'm the most gagged person in the history of the United States."

"My feeling is that none of them have the guts to do that," she dared them, before charging, "they are all manipulated."

"I keep using the word Kafkaesque..." she paused, during her speech at ALA, clearly showing her exasperation, "because...," she continued slowly, "...I really can't come up with a better word."

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Of course, the reason that Sibel is being forced into this drastic action, at great personal risk, is that Henry Waxman reneged on his promise to hold hearings in Congress where Sibel would be (legally) protected.

According to the last week's frontpage WaPo article on Waxman:

]"Waxman has become the Bush administration's worst nightmare: a Democrat in the majority with subpoena power and the inclination to overturn rocks.
<...>
Some investigations come straight from the headlines... But the real secret, Waxman said, is simply to follow investigations wherever they lead.

Except in Sibel's case.

In fact, Waxman doesn't even need to do any investigation in this case, the investigationwas completed years ago, and Waxman has seen the classified version, yet all he can say is

"I really don’t particularly have a comment on her case."

So what will it be, Henry? Will you follow the headlines, after Sibel has exposed herself to criminal charges and spilt the beans on national TV? How will you explain to your supporters that you sat on evidence of treason for years? Or will you do the right thing and hold hearings now 'wherever it leads'?

Youtube

Let Sibel Edmonds Speak
Call Embarrass Waxman. Demand public open hearings:
DC:[phone] LA:323 651-1040 Capitol switchboard: 800-828-0498

CBS 60 Minutes: [e-mail] Ph: [phone]

Cross-posted Let Sibel Edmonds Speak

( Email me if you want to be added to my Sibel email list. Subject: 'Sibel email list')

[mmonk]

1. Yes. While Valerie is getting to speak on TV

there is someone that is still not being allowed to.

[annabanana]

2. Oh Kick fuckety KICK!!

Let's find out how long Keith's leash REALLY is!! Let's just SEE what is "allowed" and what is not..

Any "news" outlet that claims their coverage is not owned lock, stock and barrel by their corporate sponsors, let their voices be heard!

[lukery]

9. keith would be great

how brave is he?

[mmonk]

31. Honestly, I believe Dan Abrams

who oversees the program would kill the idea.

[McCamy Taylor]

55. If this is about Turkey, the Pentagon may say "No", in which case NBC will decline.

And NBC does not take a piss without consulting the Pentagon first.

[roguevalley]

77. what a great woman. I love her.

[waterdancer]

180. Anyone have HuffPost blogger contacts? Let's move this story upward and turn up the heat. NT

[waterdancer]

192. Make this story news the Colbert way

This story is news. It got major airing at DKos and DU. It's
on HuffPo. You can find it in Google news and Yahoo news
searches. We need this story. We need to promote this story.
Tell people to search her name on search engines. Email them
about the story. Blog it, Digg it (political news and world
news), search technorati for blogs about it tag blog posts
with her name. Make her another Stephen Colbert phenomen on
the internet. Get Reuters (or whoever) to pick up the story.
Then make it the most emailed story on Yahoo news.

[ChiciB1]

80. I Recently Said I Was Only Going To Be Checking In At DU From Time

to time, just to see what's going on, and that I was going to stop posting, but THIS IS BIG! And annabanana, your comment is just PERFECT!! Couldn't have said it better myself, UNLESS I added a few more 4-letter words!!

[truedelphi]

84. My one hope in the media is Keith.

Believe me, the others are owned by our oil, banking, insurance and Big Pharma interests. And they simply will not cover a story that affects things on a macro level until so many people raise their voices that they are forced to.

[truedelphi]

85. My one hope in the media is Keith.

Believe me, the others are owned by our oil, banking, insurance and Big Pharma interests. And they simply will not cover a story that affects things on a macro level until so many people raise their voices that they are forced to.

[WileEcoyote]

94. Anna,

Sorry for the off topic post, but were you ever a member of Toastmasters in San Francisco?

Contact me via P/M if you like. Think I heard one of your speeches once. A good job.

Wiley.

[babylonsister]

3. I think Ms. Edmonds needs to have a nice long chat with Bill Moyers. I'll

bet he'd let her speak. Or LinkTV.

[lukery]

10. Moyers would be fantastic

(I just watched the Cheney special from last week)

[rabies1]

28. Bill Moyers - I second that.

He gives people a good amount of airtime too.
Olberman is on MSnbc and I'm not sure how much time could be allowed.

[kysrsoze]

61. Only problem is that only WE would watch it. It needs to be on a national media outlet

PBS would just be preaching to the choir. She might as well go on AAR - no one would pay attention to it.

[Ian_rd]

99. Correct. It needs to be something with a big audience. Otherwise she risks prison for nothing

[femrap]

35. Bill would be the one...good idea! nt

[ChiciB1]

81. I Get LINK, But So Many Others Don't... A GOOD Starting Place Though! n/t

[tekisui]

4. 5th rec. and a kick.

[malaise]

5. Tell all Sibel

Come on KO - set up this interview.

[mmonk]

6. One of the links isn't working.

[lukery]

8. which one?

the bradblog link?

he told me that he had automatically set it to go at 5.30am pct - but i see that it isnt up yet :-(

[mmonk]

15. It's working now.

All systems go. No worries.

[bonito]

7. Awesome!

[Nickster]

11. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that one of those GOP Congressman is Tom Delay.

[Spurt]

12. K&R

[MetaTrope]

13. Do you suppose ROBERT NOVAK would take her up on that?!

Oh yes. Sure.

[FourScore]

14. Why doesn't she post a video on Current TV?

Maybe Greg Palast or someone with enormous credibility could interview her.

[lonestarnot]

16. She probably needs money.

[lil d]

95. Agreed.

Yeah-you're probably right. Doing it through Current TV would not be profitable

[mmonk]

17. I think this needs exposure on a different level

though there isn't anything wrong with Current.

[FourScore]

18. You have more faith in the MSM than I do

I think she will find they won't touch this.

[lukery]

19. it's all broken

msm doesnt work. congress doesnt work. the courts dont work.

sheesh.

[Spurt]

20. You are saying...

...the government is broken.
Sadly you are right.
No gov't people/agency will help Sibel.
It is not partisan failure - it is the whole damn thing.

The gov't no longer serves the people be they left or right.

[dickbearton]

146. Exactly. Corrupt Corporations have turned America into a criminal nation.

[Freddie Stubbs]

97. Or YouTube?

:shrug:

[FourScore]

172. I think Current is more elegant than You Tube.

But maybe that's just me.

[SnowGoose]

21. The US broadcast media is corrupt. The BBC might do, though.

Not that they are squeaky-clean, but at least they wouldn't be limited by the constraints (both legal and motivational) of the US media.

[antigop]

22. Just put it on YouTube, Sibel. n/t

[rateyes]

33. That would be the way to do it....

after it's in the blogosphere, the MSM would have to cover it. I wonder, though, how long it would stay up? Long enough for a few people to download and have copies for themselves?

[John Q. Citizen]

51. Just like the Downing Street Memos? If they cover it like they covered that,

then what's the point?

[Spurt]

23. kick

[maxkeiser]

24. Why not Al Jazeera English?

I just sent out a rash of emails to the top brass at AJE about carrying this story!!!
Let's get an email campaign to AJE asking them to carry this story!!

[mmonk]

27. I prefer a domestic media outlet

in order to knock down any spin that what she says is questionable (and you know that will be the angle used against her).

[gateley]

134. I like AJE but it would be too easy to label it as an anti-American broadcaster. nt

[Roland99]

25. Contact Bill Moyers or Dan Rather (at HDNet)...or maybe the PBS Frontline producers??

I bet Mark Cuban and Dan Rather would be willing to broadcast it on HDNet.

[Castleman]

59. HELL YES!

Let Rather take this one, and bring the whole filthy house of cards crashing down!

[rurallib]

91. Amy Goodman for Pacifica

Besides the big boys they ought to have one real journalist there such as Goodman, Moyers, I'd say Rather to a degree, Palast to a degree. There needs to be someone there besides one network.

[Peggy Day]

26. I fear for her safety nt

[Emit]

30. My first thought, too. n/t

[redqueen]

145. That was my first thought as well. (nt)

[Oilwellian]

29. Remember when Daniel Ellsburg had to hide ...

after he exposed the Pentagon Papers? Sibel's story is eerily similar, only worse. If I recall correctly, Ellsburg stayed in hiding long enough for his story to sink in with the American public and incarcerating him for going public would have created such a huge backlash, even the thought of it became unrealistic. He eventually wound up testifying before Congress and well, the rest is history as they say.

I hope Sibel has safe houses set up. I'm sure there are many people willing to help with that. :D

[pberq]

52. Yes - the Ellsberg case is a very similar parallel

[Amonester]

32. Write a book first! (It seems to be the only way...)

I am SURE many talented DU writers would be thrilled to help her write it if she can't.

Why not?

The Home of the Brave: (Sibel Edmonds, and few others...).

[MilesColtrane]

34. Sibel you're such a tease.

Sounds like she's giving herself a convenient out.

I don't know of any major network that would air an unedited interview.

They wouldn't allow Jesus Christ himself to give an unedited interview.

Just talk already.

[PRETZEL]

41. true, I doubt anyone will grant an unedited airing of any interview

especially knowing that any media outlet airing that interview could potentially be breaking the law by knowingly breaking the gag order in place.

I wish there was an outlet that she could go to. She would need immunity for any testimony she gives. Waxman has already reneged it appears.

If she's ready to risk it, she should place all information she has on her web site if that's legally possible.

[kimpossible]

36. Democracy Now?

Amy Goodman is an excellent interviewer, and I bet she'd jump at the chance to air the whole thing.

http://democracynow.org

[cali]

49. not unedited she wouldn't.

no one will.

[riverdeep]

37. kick!

So, are they all in on it, even our 'saviors'?

[stirlingsliver]

38. Post The Information HERE -- On DU!

Couldn't she post the information (or at least a part of it) here on DU?

This could be her way of getting the important information out to the People of America.

Don't rely on the corporations, Sibel: They are as bad (or worse) than the government!

[lukery]

40. you could read all of my past posts :-)

i've covered just about all of her story - but it needs to go mainstream

[seafan]

39. Dan Rather, Bill Moyers come to mind immediately.

This woman needs to tell it all now.

And the same goes for the remaining true patriots in a position to inform us of serious transgressions against the safety of American citizens, such as in the military, the DOJ, the courts, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, the telecom whistleblowers, and former Senator Bob Graham. I'm sure there are many more.


Speak now, people.

[simmonsj811]

42. 1 2 3

:kick: :kick: :kick: :dilemma:

[loudsue]

43. I wish her all the best of luck and protection. What a brave, brave, patriotic woman!

It's time this story was told in all of its morbid details. Names. Money. Treason.

And, btw, ..... FUCK WAXMAN! Has he been bought & paid for, too? I can't believe he's done this.

:kick::kick::kick: & recommend

[OneGrassRoot]

44. Here's the stupid question of the day...

If David Shuster or KO interviewed her, and then it was posted to youtube, how much influence would that potentially have?

The youtube phenomenon seems powerful, but has it only been for frivolous matters? Anything of real import make an impact through youtube as yet?

If it caught on through youtube, maybe it would take on a life of its own. For those who won't take the time to read her story, watching her tell her opens her to a new audience for her truth to come out.

Obviousy MSNBC is good - if she were interviewed by one of those two gentleman - but I'm just trying to think how to expand upon that coverage. So many things seem to hit a wall, even after revealed on Countdown.

[annabanana]

64. Unfortunately, "a life of its own" always relies

On a big media outlet picking it up and reporting on it... THAT'S its "life", right there.

[cascadiance]

66. I think if you could get Keith Olberman to champion this, that would be the best option...

... in terms of getting as wide a coverage as possible by the most sympathetic entity in the MSM that is there now. This of course would be a BIG risk for KO to take if he were to try and get MSNBC to put it on, but if anyone in the MSM were able to do it, it would be he.

If a lot of us (especially those who are Nielsen or Arbitron families) were to commit to getting his show recorded EVERY night to amplify his ratings if this were to go through, perhaps we could win them over with the almighty pocketbook. That and commit to buying products/services from his show's sponsors in a larger effort. A reverse ad boycott, so to speak.

A heavy kick! I'm really looking forward to making a new .sig pic here, with the gaq animated as coming off!

[JDPriestly]

142. But would the government allow him to show it?

[AntiFascist]

119. That's an interesting point...

even 60 Minutes posted the more controversial part of Valerie Plame's interview only on their website. Maybe the complete Sibel interview could be posted the same way?

[StrictlyRockers]

45. K&R

Speak the truth Sibel!!

[OzarkDem]

46. What is Waxman's problem?

Why is he ignoring her and obstructing her efforts to reveal the truth?

What have Dem leaders in Congress bargained away in order to appease Bush & Cheney?

I wonder if any of our Congressional Dem leaders have considered they also may be brought to justice and held accountable for lying to the public and covering up the crimes of the Bush administration?

[mmonk]

54. Time will tell.

[yodermon]

74. horse's head in his bed. n/t

[leveymg]

183. One word: AIPAC

ATC and AIPAC take long, soapy showers together. Sibel was translating FBI counter-intelligence intercepts involving figures closely connected to the American Turkish Council (ATC).

[burythehatchet]

47. Who wants to bet a $100 that Pelosi shut this down?

[lukery]

53. like she shut down

the Armenian genocide resolution?

following in Denny Boy's fat footsteps...

[rateyes]

67. No, I won't take you up on that bet...

not gonna do it. If it looks cowardly, my bet is that Pelosi is in on it.

[Richard Steele]

69. No, I don't want to bet on anything Madame D'Offthetable may have done, at this point.nm

[Autumn Colors]

48. K&R (nm)

[Javaman]

50. I think I hear the sound of swiftboat engines starting up. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

56. Does it have to be American TV News?

[cascadiance]

71. Have Americans seen "Kill the Messenger"?

NO! The French, Australians, and many other countries have been able to see it. We've not had it distributed here. I've put in requests to Link TV and to Free Speech TV to get it on, and they haven't done so either. We NEED to get the American media to show her story somewhere or it won't get covered here!

[JDPriestly]

144. Maybe the BBC would be interested, or German or French TV?

I doubt that any American broadcaster would risk violating a court gag order of this kind because it is based on national security. The broadcaster would need to be very sure that the American people would be so outraged at the thought that the story Edmonds told was just being held under wraps by the government because it would be embarrassing to the Republican Party. The broadcaster would not want to transmit a program that would actually harm the interests of the U.S. or violate important security interests.

Remember how we were upset about the outing of Plame. We have no way of knowing what the complete repercussions of broadcasting Sibel Edmonds' information might be. Would vital information sources somewhere in the world be cut off? Could people in other countries who have trusted the U.S. be harmed? These are things a broadcaster would want to consider before airing an interview with Edmonds.

[rhett o rick]

57. K & R. nm

[Gregorian]

58. Our corporate government isn't going to let this happen.

I honestly have sat here for an hour with nothing to say. It's a standoff. She has the goods, and they have the power.

I don't see it happening. But it's so close, it's hard to not happen.

We need to encase her in a vault. Then find the right venue.

Weird. It's the Twilight Zone...

[Californian Dreamer]

60. If all else fails...

She may need to go around the lot of them, and put a full disclosure video online. It's the one outlet that cannot be controlled, it'll be one hot potato of a file but it will make it's way around. There is still the problem of the MSM trying to ignore it, but that can't work for long with something this big.

I just hope she stay safe, until and after she tells her story.

[ray of light]

62. Most gagged? There's lots of whistleblowers who have been gagged.

I hope to hear all their stories. I hope they are not penalized later as so many have been. But she isn't the only one gagged and she's not the 'most gagged'.

[cascadiance]

68. Can they show their driver's license to someone else without fear of "violating" their gag?

Showing her DOB to someone else is a violation of her state secrets gaq order. Technically, with what gag orders have been placed on Sibel, that's what she has to be concerned about. The government could go after her at any time. It is what we would do in terms of raising a ruckus if it were done in such an extreme fashion that keeps them from doing so.

She really IS the most gagged person in history. Up until now, she's been very careful about not violating these gags in ways that she knows will get her nailed. We need to stand behind her now when she needs us to prevent them from taking away her rights, etc.

[ray of light]

82. they have lost their jobs. They've lost their licenses. They've lost

their ability to get a job in the future. They can not fly without being harrassed and are on the no-fly list.

I stand behind her 100% but I think it disrespects ALL the whistleblowers to say she is 'the most gagged' when each of them suffer(ed) the same consequences.

[cascadiance]

96. She's not the most punished, but I still believe she IS the most gagged...

... in terms of what she's legally allowed to say about what she knows. It's important to make that distinction. I fully support and value those other whistleblowers that have chosen to sacrifice their jobs and other parts of their lives to expose the wrongdoing, and I think many of them deserve a LOT of credit for what they've done.

However, sometimes someone needs to walk the tightrope and not play the extreme cards until they are ready. By not playing them all at once, they can perhaps in the long run do more good for us. In addition to trying to find ways to get courts to hear her own story, Sibel's already organized the NSWBC (National Security Whistleblower's Coalition) that has many of these same people that have been punished in it, and has helped lobby congress to fix the current mess of laws that still continue to isolate and not protect those whistleblowers working in areas of the government where they need this protection the most.

She now sounds like she's ready to follow the footsteps the others did and cross the legal line and risk being as punished or moreso for what she's about to do now too. In other words courage WITH brains too to try and maximize her ability to help us. That deserves a lot of our respect.

[Freddie Stubbs]

100. If she is so gagged, how do we know so much about her?

:shrug:

[mmonk]

106. They gagged her retroactively to prevent prosecutions.

[robertpaulsen]

63. Recommended for one of the bravest women in America!

Sibel Edmonds, a Turkish-American, was hired, as a contractor, to work as an interpreter in the translations unit of the FBI on September 20, 2001. Between December 2001 and March 2002, Edmonds reported to FBI managers various incidents of misconduct and incompetence, involving her supervisor Mike Feghali and others, that she observed while employed as a translator. In response, she claims that managers retaliated against her. She escalated her complaints to the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility and the U.S. Department of Justice's Office of Inspector General. She was fired on March 22, 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds The misconduct Edmonds reported information about concerned an FBI translator named Jan Melek Can Dickerson whose husband, U.S. Air Force Major David Dickerson, belonged to a Turkish organization which was an investigative target of the FBI’s own counter-intelligence unit. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm Both Dickersons have Turkish backgrounds, Jan by birth, Doug as an Air Force man formerly stationed in Turkey and tasked with weapons procurement there for countries including Uzbekistan and Turkey itself. Edmonds and her husband were asked by them to join the Turkish organization Edmonds refers to above as a “semi-legitimate organization”, explaining that joining that organization would be very lucrative for the Edmonds’ and in return would require passing over classified FBI information. When this overture proved unsuccessful, they threatened Sibel Edmonds and her family, allegedly influencing the Turkish government to harass Sibel Edmonds’ sister while in Turkey. http://www.balkanalysis.com/?p=401 CBS host Ed Bradley said Edmonds found that "Dickerson had left out information crucial to the FBI’s investigation; information that Edmonds says would have revealed that the Turkish intelligence officer had spies working for him inside both the U.S. State Department and the Department of Defense at the Pentagon." After reporting evidence of espionage in December, 2001, Edmonds told an FBI special agent who had also had suspicions about the Dickersons and they pursued the issue; but Bureau heads said they were never notified despite Edmonds’ proof to the contrary. She said the FBI permitted other targets of the investigation, key people, including foreign nationals based in the U.S, to flee the country right up through January and February, 2002. Edmonds has said in the past that "I reported some of the suspects’ names higher up as I came across them in our investigation. And you know what? Within two weeks, they had all left the country. Just vanished." During the whole month the Dickersons were being subpoenaed, starting in June, 2002, Jan Dickerson continued to work in the FBI translations department--with a top-secret security clearance. Finally, only two weeks after the Air Force convened a formal investigation, Jan and David Dickerson were permitted to leave the country on September 9, 2002--about a year after September 11. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm

What Edmonds discovered about espionage and corruption in the FBI pales in comparison to what she learned about September 11, which got her in much more unique trouble with the US government than a mere employment termination. On August 15, 2002, Burnett v. Al Baraka Investment & Dev. Corp., was filed by families of 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks against Saudi banks, charity organizations, and companies. Edmonds was to file a deposition in this case regarding her claim that FBI had foreknowledge of al-Qaeda's attacks against the World Trade Center. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds While she was employed as a contract linguist for the FBI, she was given top-secret security clearance and hired to retranslate material that was collected prior to 9/11 to determine if anything was missed in the translations relating to the plot. She concluded that documents clearly showed that the 9/11 hijackers were in the country and plotting to use airplanes as missiles to carry out an attack in a major city. She said documents also included information relating to terrorist financial activities. http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=427 In response, the FBI offered her a substantial raise and a full-time job to encourage her not to go public that she had been asked by the Department of Justice to adjust translations of terrorist subject intercepts that had been received before September 11, 2001 by the FBI and CIA. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm The tapes she translated, often connected to terrorism, money laundering or other criminal activity, provide evidence that should have made apparent that an al-Qaeda plot was in the works. Edmonds is offended by the Bush White House claim that it lacked foreknowledge of the kind of attacks made by al-Qaeda on 9/11. "Especially after reading National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice where she said, we had no specific information whatsoever of domestic threat or that they might use airplanes. That's an outrageous lie. And documents can prove it's a lie." She testified before 9/11 commission staffers in February 2004 for more than three hours, providing detailed information about FBI investigations, documents and dates. http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/03/26/translator/index_np.html Unfortunately, the 9/11 Commission reduced her contributions in the 9/11 Commission Report to a single footnote.

Amazingly, that footnote is more information than the Department of Justice has been willing to allow Edmonds to disclose to the American public. On October 18, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft, in response to her lawsuit filed July 22, 2002, against the Department of Justice, the FBI, and several high-level officials, alleging that she was wrongfully terminated from the FBI in retaliation for reporting criminal activities committed by government officials and employees, invoked the State Secrets Privilege in order to prevent disclosure of the nature of Edmonds' work on the grounds that it would endanger national security, and asked that the suit be dismissed. Then on December 11, 2003, in response to her deposition in the Burnett v. Al Baraka 9/11 case, Ashcroft again invoking the State Secrets Privilege, filed a motion calling for Edmonds' deposition to be suppressed and for the entire case to be dismissed. The judge, seeking more information, ordered the government to produce any unclassified material relating to the case. In response, Ashcroft submitted further statements to justify the use of the State Secrets Privilege, and on May 13, 2004, took the unprecedented step of retroactively classifying as Top Secret all of the material and statements that had been provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee in 2002 relating to Edmonds' own lawsuit, as well as the letters that had been sent by the Senators and republished by a watchdog group, Project On Government Oversight (POGO). Ashcroft’s reclassification was successful; Edmonds was barred from testifying in the 9/11 class action suit, and on July 6, 2004, her own suit was dismissed on state secrets grounds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds The judge who dismissed her suit, Reggie Walton, is also the judge in the trial of Scooter Libby. To this date, the Department of Justice gag order, despite all appeal attempts by Edmonds’ lawyers, has remained in effect. If it were to be rescinded, Edmonds told Kyle Hence, cofounder of 9-11 Citizens Watch, “it could lead to charges of treason being leveled against officials at top levels of the U.S. government”. Hence added, “If that is the case, then all those who have been involved in keeping this information from getting to the public are complicit in this treason”. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sibel_Edmonds

While she has been gagged from revealing specifics of the crimes she discovered, Edmonds has gone on record describing the government’s reaction to 9/11 as a cover-up. "Nobody is looking at the Department of Defense aspect of the whole 911 cover-up. The FBI is citing two reasons for my gag order: to protect ‘sensitive’ diplomatic relations and to protect foreign U.S. business relationships," she said. "I will say this: The FBI is only a mouthpiece for the State Department. The State Department is the main reason for the cover-up. It has to do with foreign business relationships and who they are...Pakistan, Turkey...espionage in the State Department...preventing an investigation." She believes that "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain (American) people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally… There is direct evidence involving no more than ten American names that I recognized… some are heads of government agencies or politicians--but I don’t want to go any further than that," revealing the content of the FBI intercepts she heard indicates that recognizable, very high-profile American citizens are linked to the 9/11 attacks. When asked in 2002 by CBS 60 Minutes co-host Ed Bradley, "did she seem credible to you? Did her story seem credible?" Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) said "Absolutely, she’s credible. And the reason I feel she’s very credible is because people within the FBI have corroborated a lot of her story." http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0504/S00251.htm Her credibility received further confirmation when on January 14, 2004, the Justice Department's Office unclassified summary of the Justice Department's Inspector General's report on Edmonds found that many of her claims “were supported, that the FBI did not take them seriously enough, and that her allegations were, in fact, the most significant factor in the FBI's decision to terminate her services”. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Sibel_Edmonds

To help other whistleblowers like her, In August, 2004, Edmonds founded the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC), an alliance of whistleblowers who have come forward to address security weaknesses of the US. The NSWBC helps national security agency whistleblowers through advocacy of governmental and legal reform, public education on whistleblowing activity, provision of comfort and fellowship to national security whistleblowers suffering retaliation and other harms, and working with other public interest organizations. NSWBC is involved in backing former intelligence analyst Russ Tice, who was dismissed by the National Security Agency (NSA) in May, 2005. On December 16, 2005, ABC reported that Tice was among the sources of a leak about illegal NSA wiretap programs, ordered by the White House and first disclosed by the New York Times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds And on a semi-related note, on February 25, 2007, Edmonds accused President Bush of using FISA warrants to spy on members of Congress, and that FISA was not aware of the misuse of the warrants. http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2007/2/25/172012/182

So how do you translate the translator? How do you decipher the words of a gagged woman? How do you find out who the “semi-legitimate organizations” are that are engaging in drugs, money laundering and arms sales in convergence with international terrorism? Sibel Edmonds has been encouraging everyone, as Felt encouraged Woodward, to follow the money. Doing so helped Vanity Fair, who went on the record with allegations that while he was House Speaker, Dennis Hastert may have been the recipient of tens of thousands of dollars of secret payments from Turkish officials in exchange for political favors and information. In the article, titled "An Inconvenient Patriot," Edmonds says that she gave confidential testimony about the payments to congressional staffers, the Inspector General and members of the 9/11 Commission. Edmonds says that she heard of the payments while listening to FBI wiretaps of Turkish officials who were under surveillance by the FBI. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254 But getting back to the Dickersons, Edmonds caught a lucky break being on the receiving end of an accidental disclosure from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. According to the Edmonds team’s reply of September 19, 2002, the USAF Inspector General’s letter had referred specifically to the American-Turkish Council, based in Washington, D.C., as being related to the Dickersons. When asked if the American-Turkish Council (ATC) was in fact the name of the key “semi-legitimate organization” that had infiltrated the FBI during her time there, because of the DOJ gag order she could only say, “I cannot confirm that… they said it, we did not.” http://www.balkanalysis.com/?p=401

One man described as a pillar of the ATC that Edmonds has been able to talk about is Marc Grossman. http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/2006/09/doug-feith-richard-perle-and-marc.html The same Marc Grossman who told Scooter Libby on June 11 or 12, 2003, more than a month before Novak’s column, about Wilson’s wife working at the CIA. http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001046.php The same Marc Grossman mentioned in the 1st edition of American Judas who had a meeting that was reported on September 10, 2001, as “most important” with General Mahmoud Ahmad, who resigned from being Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) Chief the following month in the wake of an investigation by Times of India, confirmed by the FBI, that he authorized ISI agent Omar Saeed Sheikh to wire transfer $100,000 in August 2001 to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker of the 9/11 attacks. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essaysaeed.html When questioned in April 2006 by director Mathieu Verboud for an interview that was later cut out of a documentary about Sibel Edmonds titled Kill the Messenger, Grossman claimed he didn’t know anything about Sibel Edmonds or Valerie Plame. This cannot be true, according to Edmonds, because Grossman was one of three officials – the other two, she says, are Richard Perle and Douglas Feith – who had been watched by both Valerie Plame's Brewster Jennings & Associates CIA team, and by the major FBI investigation of organized crime and governmental corruption on which she herself was working until being terminated in April 2002. http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/2006/09/doug-feith-richard-perle-and-marc.html

Now that yet another motivation for Cheney to blow Plame’s cover has been revealed, the role that Turkey plays in this game of “many dark actors” appears much larger. Edmonds has researched this extensively and wrote about it in a two part article in November 2006 titled The Hijacking of a Nation. To quote: “Turkey played a major role in Pakistan and Libya's illicit activities in obtaining nuclear technologies. In June 2004, Stephen Fidler, a reporter for Financial Times reported that in 2003, Turkish centrifuge motors and converters destined for Libya's nuclear weapons program turned up in Tripoli aboard a ship that had sailed from Dubai. One of those detained individuals in this incident, a 'respected and successful' Turkish Businessman, Selim Alguadis, was cited in a public report from the Malaysian inspector-general of police into the Malaysian end of a Pakistani-led clandestine network that supplied Libya, Iran and North Korea with nuclear weapons technologies, designs and expertise. According to the report, "he supplied these materials to Libya." Mr. Alguadis also confessed that he had on several occasions met A Q Khan, the disgraced Pakistani scientist who has admitted transmitting nuclear expertise to the three countries”. http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds11292006.html

One more dot to connect: is Dick Cheney directly affiliated with any of the “semi-legitimate organizations” in this international criminal conspiracy? While only a thorough binding investigation with subpoena power can determine this, the gagged former FBI translator has left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing investigators in the appropriate direction. Again from The Hijacking of a Nation, 'ATC is joined in the creation of the New EuroAsia by the American Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce (AACC). AACC's Honorary Council of Advisors just happens to have General Scowcroft and the following persons of significance: Henry Kissinger and James Baker III. Former Council members include Dick Cheney and Richard Armitage, and Board of Trustee members include media-overkill subject Richard Perle of AEI, and Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas.' http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds11292006.html

Interesting that Cheney is listed as having resigned from the AACC in November 2000. As though leaving the organization a month before the Supreme Court selected him to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency could cover up the fact that this American Judas has made more money selling the security of his country out for the greater profits of drugs, money laundering, arms sales and international terrorism than the 30 pieces of silver the Biblical Judas sold his friend Jesus Christ out for. This is a story that cannot be swept under the rug. It is a huge story, sometimes daunting, but it must be told, and those who are in the best position to tell it must no longer be silenced by a government that claims to be of the people, for the people and by the people. We, the people, hunger for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The outline of the truth has been mapped in this paper, but there are many more pieces of the puzzle to discover. It’s important to remember that no matter how many stories are listed here, it is still just one story. But to get the whole story, we must have a whole investigation. Nothing in our lifetime could be more important, because there is no greater endeavor than establishing justice. It’s what our Founding Fathers listed first in the Constitution for their priorities of forming “a more perfect union”. We owe it to them, and ourselves, to see the truth through to the end.

http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2007/03/american-judas-2nd-edition-investigate.html

[Vadem]

123. Thank you, Robert! That is a great review of Sibel and thanks to

lukery for all his wonderful history and reports about Sibel!

K&R!!! Her story must be told!

[Truth2Tell]

125. Thanks for this! Great post. n/t

[go west young man]

139. 9/11 Press For Truth Video at YouTube includes the

press briefing where a Times Of India reporter asks a question in regards to Pakistani General Mahmoud Ahmad's visit to DC on September 10th,2001 and his alleged involvement with the wire transfer of $100,000 to Mohammad Atta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqkRCpOMUvI

[robertpaulsen]

140. Looks like proof of a cover up.

That question was listed as "inaudible" in White House transcripts.

The entire incident was completely omitted from the 9/11 Kean/Zelikow Report.

[go west young man]

165. Note the part at the end of the video where Randy Glass say's

the ISI operative pointed in the direction of the World Trade Center and said "those towers are coming down." Hell it must be true Chris Hanson of Dateline NBC is the reporter of Glass's story!:banghead:

[mmonk]

161. Yep. That's a biggie.

Actually, Ahmad was meeting with government officials the morning of 9/11.

[arrested_president]

65. Don't Get Your Hopes Up

it's time to suicide her

she's the single most dangerous thing in the world. and, too easy to eliminate

i feel so bad to have to think this way but, NO WAY will they allow her testimony to become mainstream

she's lived this long because they contained her. if she bucks it, she will truly frighten them and they will do something hastily so they can sleep at night

she could actually get Bush charged with war crimes. people would stop talking about impeachment and cut straight to the trial

she will not survive it. the Bush Body-Count is too real and this fits it to a tee

[defendandprotect]

90. Tend to agree with you . . . I'd rather see her safe with her story ----

She's dangled info out there re Hastert and no one has picked it up as far as I'm aware -- have they???

[defendandprotect]

92. I'd say this is another reason to watch for another 2008 steal ---

The thugs in place now are there because they understand they can protect themselves --
if they lose their power in 2008 -- with a greater challenge from a larger Democratic majority --
and I mean if the American public were the TRULY wake up . . .
they'd be digging up bodies all the way back to 1963 and JFK --


They can't let it happen ---

[mmonk]

70. And here's the kicker of course.

"During recent depositions conducted by the Justice Department in a lawsuit filed by Edmonds under FTC, Department of Justice and FBI attorneys, Dan Barish and Ernest Batenga, questioned witnesses on and discussed information that was previously declared state secrets. This information was communicated on the record in the presence of parties who did not have security clearance. Information such as the nature of Ms. Edmonds’ work with the FBI, the specific FBI units where she performed translation, FBI target countries, the arrest warrant issued by the Turkish government for Ms. Edmonds’ sister, and congressional letters regarding the consequences of Dickerson’s espionage case in Turkey and here in the U.S., all of which were retroactively classified by the Justice Department, was discussed and put in the court record."


http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2007/08/fbi-divulges-secrets-in-sibel-edmonds.html

[Rambis]

72. Kick arse!

:kick:

[LSK]

73. BBC? Palast? Can she go overseas?

[mmonk]

75. She's been overseas. They all know pretty much.

She's been in papers. There is a documentary. The people that don't know are Americans.

[Ian_rd]

103. No good. How many Americans are you aware of that have heard of Palast's reports?

None. The MSM blacks him out. Sibel is looking for a big audience if she's to risk prison.

[Frisbee]

147. She may also ...

be looking for a big payday, because she will probably need some VERY GOOD lawyers if she does find an outlet willing to let her tell what she knows.

Would it make sense for her to go to a print outlet, assuming they'd be willing to do it?

[republicansarewhores]

114. I was thinking the same thing...

Palast and BBC should get involved, they seem to have more freedom with investigating corruption in the US...

RAW

[cascadiance]

126. And BBC 24 hour News channel is being test marketed now here...

... and supposedly is in San Diego, though I get satellite and not cable, so I don't know if it's been deployed yet.

[MiniMe]

76. The government will pull it before it airs. They can't afford to have that broadcast.

[cascadiance]

121. Where's Max Headroom, Blank Reg and Big Time Television when we need them?

[bobbolink]

78. K&R for Sibel

:kick:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

79. I hope she has bodyguards?

you can see the article in the newspaper. Ms Edmonds whilst crossing road a black SUV came from nowhere......

Sibel don't travel in small planes!

Good luck!

[TexasBushwhacker]

83. What about Current TV?

Ya know, Al's station.

FWIW, if it gets posted on the web, they need to do it so that people can download it. The more it spreads, the harder it will be for the government to shut it down.

[rAVES]

86. Brave lady, I hope she's keeping safe.

[Connonym]

104. my exact thought was "does she have a death wish?"

I wonder if she'd let Jon Stewart interview her or if she wouldn't get taken seriously on Comedy Central, which may be a really oxymoronic question

[vanboggie]

130. She might be safer after

Sometimes getting the info out can be safer than being the holder of the info.

[Frisbee]

148. Normally, I'd agree...

but with the vindictive assholes in power now, I'm not so sure.

[HereSince1628]

87. No media is going to _give_ the editorial right away, Sibel needs to buy the time

if she wants editorial control. Just like Ron Popeil gets time for his latest invention.

I wonder if she makes this offer knowing 1) it's unlikely to be met and 2) that she gets a lot of exposure for an offer she knows the government would try to shut down--great tactic for making the government look like the censor it is and 3) any network that airs it would be culpable along with her on accusations of national security leaks?

[Freddie Stubbs]

101. Why buy time when YouTube is free?

:shrug:

[HereSince1628]

151. Yes, but You Tube isn't a national TV network.

[Freddie Stubbs]

185. "Don't tase me, bro" became famous because of YouTube

[CoffeeCat]

88. I don't get this...at all.

....why would someone hinge their truth-telling on the MSM doing its job?

Siebel Edmonds knows better than anyone how stench-filled our rotten system
of government is.

She can tell the truth to a number of outlets.

Why do we get the truth ONLY if the right-wing, corporate-owned media decides
to do the right thing---when we know that they're owned by the very thugs that
are at the center of this story.

I admire Sibel Edmonds immensely. I'm not criticizing her.

I'm just suggesting that she go around the MSM and disseminate the information
her own way. Why rely on corrupt accomplices to tell your story--when you can
circumvent them and tell the story in other ways?

I agree, if Keith (or some other high-profile media personality) would agree
to do the interview unedited--she should go for it. However, she shouldn't
give up if she can't find an honest MSM member to tell her story.

Just my 2 cents...

[mmonk]

93. She's putting pressure on them and consequently Waxman.

[Ian_rd]

98. I think it's brilliant actually

I would guess her reasoning is that she's not willing to risk legal action against her unless she reaches as many people as possible in the process. Sure, she could go on Democracy Now! or do an interview with Mother Jones and guess what - the only people who would learn of her whole story are a tiny percentage of Americans because the rest of the MSM would totally ignore it. It happens all the time. Mother Jones (or whomever) publishes a slam-dunk factual expose and the only people who ever know about it are Mother Jones subscribers. I love it when the NYT has a smashing headline story about something and I think wow, I read that in MJ like ... last year.

If I were her, I'd also be willing to risk prison only if I could get a big audience. I think it's a wise move. Otherwise she could be thrown in jail for nothing - all we would get from the MSM is the Bush line about a leaking liberal traitor who endangered the United States by exposing state secrets.

Go Sibel.

[flyarm]

162. ding ding ding!! i believe you to be 100% correct!! eom

[earth mom]

118. I agree. The M$M will stab her in the back. YouTube or Current TV are the ONLY options. nt

[IDemo]

89. Bring Colleen Rowley along too

She has a few choice stories to tell as well: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,249997,00.html

[Rex]

102. She can do this knowing NO ONE will give her an unedited run

of 'airtime', not if they like remaining out of jail. I would call the NYT to the stand, but they only fall on Repuke swords.

[DearAbby]

105. Find a secure location and POST IT ON THE NET

Thousands of people download it, it wont be easy to stop that whirlwind, once it is out in cyber-space...WE are the media.

[blogslut]

107. I'm with you

TELL US, SIBEL.

We will spread the truth faster than you can say, J'Accuse! Gather up a few email addresses from high-traffic, lefty blogs, compose your email and click send.

They'll do the rest.

Hell, while you're at it, post it on Usenet and Craig'sList.


Click, click send. Truth disseminated.

[halobeam]

109. Really looks like the ONLY way, doesn't it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

108. She doesn't have the balls to post it on YouTube

If she really wanted to get her story out, she would do that.

[Rex]

110. Okay, Eric Cartman.

:)

[walldude]

113. Yeah cause You Tube is well known for allowing the posting

of national security secrets. :eyes: That's the best you can do? This woman has been fighting for years and now she says she'll go to jail if she has to and the best you can do is "she doesn't have the balls to post on you tube"? Nice..

[Kingofalldems]

154. Wow, you sure seem obsessed with Ms. Edmonds

Gee, I wonder why she is so offensive to you. As if I didn't know.

[whistle]

111. Does Sibel Edmonds have protection?

[Eurobabe]

112. Somebody made a big fat typo in this article

"declaring the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million ethnic Albanians in Turkey as "genocide".

that would be Armenians, but it is corrected on BradBlog now :shrug:

Thanks for posting, I would love to see her spill these poison beans. Inquiring minds want to know. My bet is no major network will touch this with a ten foot pole, under orders of Der Führer, BOOSCH.

[krj44]

115. this woman has balls

too bad others in the government don`t have a set like her.

[seemslikeadream]

116. Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

[StateSecrets]

117. K & R

Lukery & Brad,

Bravo!And, Thank you both:-)

[elehhhhna]

150. SS< your tag line is misspelled...

should read "justicecitizen".

just sayin.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

120. LET HER SPEAK!!!!

:grr:

[leftist_not_liberal]

122. Two words, all too often applicable

Liberal Complicity

[elehhhhna]

124. What about print media? Sy Hersch, perhaps...

There must be a way. I've been hoping she'd take this drastic step and wish her peace,prosperity and success. Some day I hope to shake her hand. She's a true patriot, and a brave one.

[elehhhhna]

175. Lukery, what about print?

[MasonJar]

127. I hope that she has a very good security and that she has the whole thing in

several localities to be opened at her death. This is a dangerous group she is threatening.

[flyarm]

133. did Valerie Plame get security?? do you have any idea how much security costs?eom

[elehhhhna]

149. oooh I was hoping you'd get into this.

yay!

You are like a dog with a bone, and I mean it in the most positive way, fly.

Lemme call Blackwater & get a quote (lol)

Perhaps Lukery can get an idea on security costs -- betcha Sibel's handlers have shopped it.

[flyarm]

152. i certainly hope someone is providing her security..but after knowing Valerie Plame with definite

threats was told to f- off..i hope and pray Sibel has the kind of security she needs and warrants.

I can only hope some retired "good guys" from the FBI or CIA are providing her security.

But who would anyone in her postition trust?

She has info to take a whole lot of people down..and expose these bastards for who and what they are...

personally...i would trust no one..no one..

many in this country today have hidden records that they would not commit suicide..these sob's ( to be nice about language) take no prisoners!!

I just pray all the time that Sibel stays safe...and i say that sincerely!

She truely is my hero!!

fly

[mtnester]

128. BBC

BBC

BBC

shame the bastards if they won't talk to her.

[AntiFascist]

129. K&RRRRR n/t

[ooglymoogly]

131. How a bout the BBC where it would get quoted all over the world.

[cascadiance]

135. Perhaps get BBC America to delay airing new Torchwood episode one hour on Saturday...

... and put a one hour special interview with her and Greg Palast on instead during that hour. Perhaps that could get enough eyeballs watching it here!

[Cass]

132. Keith Olbermann would be the perfect one for this if Abrams

will allow it.

I bet people are freaking out right now in DC. I hope Sibel has good security.

[flyarm]

136. Sibel needs a big media forum..for her own safety.She needs the 75% of us to

be able to call and demand she not be put in jail..she will not survive jail i fear...they will take her out.

God bless Sibel..and keep her safe.

She is my hero!!

fly

[Canuckistanian]

137. Let Sibel speak!

For God's sake, this is getting ridiculous.

The longer they keep the gag order on her, the more it slips out of the government's control.

Other people WILL start talking.

[gateley]

138. How about if Keith just mentions her and her offer to come forward? Devote

a couple of minutes to what she's willing to expose, what steps she's taken so far, the gag order, etc., just to get it into the public's awareness?

And how about Larry King? He drives me nuts, but he's got a huge viewing audience. Just asking her about the same - why she's being gagged, what happened when she took it to the Supreme Court and Congress, etc. Wouldn't have to expose any of the classified details, but again, just to get it into the public's awareness.

[cascadiance]

159. Maybe Michael Moore could issue this challenge too...

Challenge CNN to interview her. Congratulate them in that they went ahead with an uncut interview with him according to his wishes about Sicko, and that ask why they shouldn't be able to do the same for her. He could then pose the question of why the media is more afraid of talking to her than talking to him... I'm sure that would get a lot of attention!

[EndElectoral]

141. Too bad she doesn't mention PBS- Bill Moyers would do it I bet!!!

[EVDebs]

156. Agreed ! It's funny "reporters" these days can't even have a 'scoop' handed to them ! LOL !

[jeff30997]

143. "the 1915 massacre of 1.5 million ethnic Albanians in Turkey"

Off subject but I think that it needs to be mentioned that

in 1915 it was 1.5 million Armenians that were massacred not Albanians.

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

[elehhhhna]

153. The story is SO complicated and diverse, Lukery, I think if y'all

could boil it down to 3 or 4 tabloid-style bombshell-teaser headlines, then just blasted 'em out there, it might be easier to get the right attention. Although I'm quite familiar with the story I still can't concisely boil it down...TMI, ya know?

Once it cracks the blogosphere, the msm will clamor for the right to the first interview. She'll then have some leverage regarding time and terms.


Q: How would you headline Sibel's story?

[lukery]

164. i'd go with sibel's headline

"The Hijacking of a Nation"

[elehhhhna]

174. Got it. Highlights?

FBI infiltrated by foreign agents, intel compromised, coverup, oh yeah plus Denny Hastert (among others, to be sure) selling his votes. Overseas.


Wha'd I miss?

[lukery]

178. others

nuclear black market, spies at the Pentagon & State Dept, 911 coverup, heroin trafficking, money laundering.

[elehhhhna]

184. oops, oh yeah. So much treason,so little time...

[Postman]

155. Why the stipulation? Is she really saying no one wants to print her story?

eom

[cascadiance]

157. Maybe if we all lobby HEAVILY Link TV, Free Speech TV to put on "Kill the Messenger" now!

If we all do it now with this latest announcement from her, I think they might help "fuel the fire" so to speak. If we can get that on, then perhaps add a public service announcement in the course of showing it that challenges all the viewers of that show to challenge the mainstream media to interview her uncut. Incremental steps you know...

I would think that if Link TV and Free Speech TV know that she's about to come out to the public on this, that they can profit from getting added viewership by carrying this documentary too.

And if we can get some other network like BBC America to carry the interview too, then that PSA could note where and when to watch that too.

[me b zola]

158. k&r

[still_one]

160. She is risking more than criminal charges /nt

[lonestarnot]

163. Why should you concede to a gag, when they do not comply with subpoenas?

[mmonk]

166. Because they are in power.

[Kurovski]

167. K&R

Thanks, lukery.

[kelliebrat]

168. K & R

:kick:

And called Waxman too

[Imagevision]

169. Would anyone in DU know how to pitch this interview to Bill Moyers?

[williesgirl]

170. She should contact Ben Bradlee, he's still a VP at Wash Post. Kay Graham has to be

turning over in her grave about now. Len Downie, Ben's replacement is a joke, no balls, and has ruined the newsroom. Ben still has the clout with Don Graham, Bo Jones and the Board to make this happen.

Plus, if it's in WP, the rest of the MSM has to cover it. I know print isn't as sexy as TV, but usually more effective. People can keep the article to read in full later, etc. Plus, it'll automatically go online at washingtonpost.com.

She'd get lots of TV interviews following that and they can't hide the truth at that point since it'd already be out there.

[elehhhhna]

176. Ted Turner might know some people.

[wildbilln864]

171. kick! thanks Lukery! n/t

[2 Much Tribulation]

173. OK networks: I will watch the WHOLE THING with commercials before and after...

[drm604]

177. So make an online video.

Distribute it so it's posted on foreign servers worldwide as well as places like youtube. Put it on P2P networks. Make it a torrent. There's no way they could reign it in.

If they arrest her that will just give credibility to the charges.

[sss1977]

179. peer to peer news

We've become so entrenched as a television nation, we've forgotten how news used to be disseminated. It all comes down to word of mouth, one person telling another person. All TV allows is one person to tell it to many all at once, but people still talk about it afterwords, that's how information works. It multiplies, it spreads, and the bigger the truth is, the more viral it is. All the truth needs is a voice, and those who want the truth will hear it and pass it on.

Youtube and its peers are worldwide. Do you really think something this big could be squelched on a worldwide basis? Who among you hasn't seen the picture of the man and the line of tanks?

I think it's wise of her to start in this way after having exhausted her legal options. There's no way an MSM outlet would carry this, but by making this kind of offer, here WE are talking about it. The hook is in, and now she has that much more leverage to allow her legal channels to cave. And if that doesn't work, it will be time to release it directly to the people who will be calling out for it, chomping at the bit to hear it and pass it on, and once that happens, it cannot be stopped.

[HereSince1628]

181. A youtube release leaves her with all the legal burdens.

I wonder if she isn't wanting to have a network's legal staff on her side of the court room after Cheney's brown shirts step in to stop a broadcast.

[Indi Guy]

182. Kick

and fuckety R!

[wildbilln864]

186. kick. n/t

[tuckessee]

187. Put up or shut up.

If you have names, then name them.

All this blowhard crapola about naming names sometime soon is probably nothing more than a shakedown.

[drm604]

188. She's under a court order not to talk.

It isn't as simple as you make it out to be.

Who is she shaking down? If they're innocent then how is she shaking them down?

[Laurier]

202. I've heard that but never seen it.

Has anyone ever posted a link to a copy of any such court order?

[sce56]

205. Shh it is a secret! State secret that is according to the DOJ

"She's Very Credible"

She has, in fact, spent years taking every reasonable step to see that the information she has goes through the proper channels. The Supreme Court refused to hear her whistleblower lawsuit, even in light of the Department of Justice forcing the removal of both her and her own attorneys from the courtroom when they made their arguments concerning why it was that she still had to remain gagged under the "States Secrets Privilege."

On the morning that the SCOTUS refused to hear her case, the facade cracked on the front of the building. In a ridiculously ironic metaphor which would have been rejected by any credible screen-writer, a chunk of marble --- just above an allegorical statue representing "Order" and just below the words "Equal Justice" --- came crashing to the ground.

She has met with, and told her story to, U.S. senators including Republican Charles Grassley and Democrat Patrick Leahy, both of the Senate Judiciary Committee, both who found her extremely credible. 60 Minutes producers may remember when Grassley told them, "Absolutely, she's credible...And the reason I feel she's very credible is because people within the FBI have corroborated a lot of her story."

In fact, the FBI itself has done so. Their Inspector General found her allegations, as described in the unclassified version of his report, to be "credible," "serious," and "warrant a thorough and careful review by the FBI."

As far back as 2002, Grassley and Leahy co-wrote letters on Edmonds' behalf to Attorney General John Ashcroft, FBI Director Robert Mueller, and DoJ Inspector General Glenn A. Fine, calling on all of them to take action in respect to the allegations she's made.

just google her name and you will find more including many interviews.

[whyzayker]

189. Been waiting for this

kick it again.

[sce56]

195. Have to keep this one kicked!

:kick:

[sce56]

190. This needs to be constantly kicked K&R

[steve2470]

191. k&r nt

[wildbilln864]

193. Yep! n/t

[sce56]

194. I wish Keith Olbermann would do this story Come ON Keith we need this one done!

Got Fascism Yet?
Fascism Accomplished!

[wildbilln864]

196. bada...

bump! :hi:

[judaspriestess]

197. Keep this going

n/t

[sce56]

198. I'm with you there keep this posted and kicked!

[sce56]

199. WOW almost 200 Rec's for this post want to keep it kicked for all to see!

[sce56]

200. One more time I hope everyone here reads the OP it is the story of our nations freedom dying!

[Quantess]

201. That's the spirit!

This thread deserves to be on 1st page, unlike a lot of silly argument threads going on.

[sce56]

203. Oh Yeah I forgot it was the 200th Post also for a 178 Rec'ed post

[JackRiddler]

204. No foreign networks want to bite?!

Anyone?

[wildbilln864]

206. Just what I was afraid of.

This isn't going to get any attention elsewhere. :banghead:

[Rex]

207. No one is going to take that one. Unedited? Never.

[JackRiddler]

208. kick anyway