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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 09:56 AM
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Social Security privatization may not be dead
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 09:57 AM
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1. ..
:grr: :mad: :nuke: :banghead: :argh:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:01 AM
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2. As long as a Republican breathes, killing SSI will be a target
SSI is like this huge symbol of all they hate. It will always be one of the big targets. And if they can't kill it they will try to 'fix' it so it is unrecognizable.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:02 AM
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3. Conrad is a Democrat. It's a BIPARTISAN commission that is being proposed. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:38 PM
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10. Repugs and the lapdog media have allowed the 'center'
to be moved so far right that many Dems buy the BS that SSI is collapsing.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:42 AM
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4. This part from an article at Real Clear Politics..."bipartisan commission"
I never thought about it this way. This author seems to be ok with this, but I am not. Just some interesting comments.

The proposed escape seems at first so drearily familiar and demonstrably ineffective that it's hardly worth discussing: a bipartisan commission. But what would distinguish this commission from its many predecessors is that Congress would have to vote on its recommendations. The political theory is that, presented with a bipartisan package that cannot be amended, most politicians would do what they believe (privately) ought to be done rather than allow pressure groups, including retirees, to paralyze the process.


Damn those retirees, what do they know?

There is precedent for this approach. Since 1988, Congress has allowed more than 600 military bases and facilities to be closed or streamlined using a similar arrangement. An independent Base Realignment and Closure Commission (BRAC) evaluates the Pentagon's proposed closings and listens to objections. With the president's approval, it then submits its own list, which goes into effect unless vetoed by both houses of Congress. This process provides members of Congress bipartisan "cover" and prevents amendments from weakening the package.

Two prominent proposals would adapt this approach to the budget. The first, offered by Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N. D., and Judd Gregg, R-N. H., the chairman and ranking member of the Budget committee, would create a 16-member commission, evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans. All eight Democrats would be from Congress, as would six Republicans. The administration would have two members, including the secretary of the treasury.

Conrad's notion is that the impasse is political and only practicing politicians -- people with "skin in the game" -- can craft a compromise that can be sold to their peers. The commission would report in December 2008. Twelve of its 16 members would have to support the plan, with congressional passage needing 60 percent approval (60 senators, 261 representatives). These requirements, Conrad and Gregg argue, would ensure bipartisan support.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/a_bipartisan_commission_with_t.html


Kind of forcing out those who express concern.

They are already planning to do what they want with it. And they do not care what we think.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1609

So they are doing it for a reason.


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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:45 AM
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5. Very worrisome, indeed. Who cares what you think? n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:48 AM
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6. The committee will put it in a box, tie it with a ribbon, and hand to the new prez
No wonder Hillary is being non-committal about this issue. They are going to put in a box, tie it with a ribbon, and hand it to her at the start of her administration....all voted for in a bipartisan way.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:57 AM
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7. or perhaps the last thing Bush does? n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:07 PM
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8. Commission report due Dec. 2008....
Very well could be Bush. It could be his legacy.

And none of us would know what hit us.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:07 PM
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9. And the Congress critters could vote for it after the election... n/t
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