I wanted to say - Mr Gore thank you for your nice letter.

[Joe for Clark]

I don't want letters. I want you to run.

If you believe what you say, there is only one place you can really influence events - and that place is not on the sidelines.

You will win this Mr Gore - I really do not believe you fully understand the support you will get when you decide to enter this race. And Iowa is only a few months away.

You are the smart boy in this room - and you aren't really even in the room yet - this fact has not been lost on anyone.

We have had too many years of stupid - we better get some years of smart now. I think we are in trouble as a country. And as I will not watch this country go down the toobs over this series of events, I am confident you will not either.

This is not 1968 - the country cannot wait for a Bobby Kennedy moment in the face of instant communications via the internet. You do not have the advantage of waiting as long as he did.

Make up your mind now - and do the right thing. When you do decide to do this - I think history just might start to correct itself.

Joe

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

1. Proud To Be Rec & Kick #1 nt

[DesertRat]

2. Well said, Joe. k&r

[Frosty1]

3. K & R#5

:kick:
edit to add
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARoNENPSIGw

[malaise]

37. That's beautiful

Al Gore #44

[BattyDem]

4. "I think history just might start to correct itself."

I feel the same way - like we're stuck in some kind of Star Trek time loop and electing Gore is the only way out. :-)

K&R

[Joe for Clark]

7. Interesting analogy.

You know what I think is really bizzare - like in some replay of past events in the country in desperate situations - if he does run, he will actually see ideological conservatives - not the neos - backing him. I am pretty sure. like some self survival instict we have demonstrated as a country is about to kick in, as it has in our past.

Sometimes conviction in a principle matters more than if you agree with the majority of the ideas. The key is that you believe the person you elect believes what he says, and has enough conviction to live by principle.

That and he has been right too consistently not to believe that he knows what he is doing. It is his passion, maybe more newly discovered - that is why he will win.

Do it now Mr Gore - this situation is quickly becoming too much to deal with for the US.

Joe

[BattyDem]

12. His passion is exactly what this country needs.

A man who actually believes what he says and has a real vision for the future. We need someone who cares about things that are far more important than politics. We need a leader.

[Andrea]

27. I hadn't thought of that, but it's a very good point.

True conservatives - like John Dean - would certainly vote for Gore because he believes in the rule of law and the protection of our constitution, just as they do. No other candidate of either party is attending to this issue enough. Those that are paying some attention (Dodd, Kucinich, and Paul) are marginal candidates at best.

[lame54]

5. i agree - HELP US AL GORE! - My video plea

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Nnph3zkHNw

[Joe for Clark]

8. Good for you!!!

Maybe he need to know how we feel and maybe streaming video might push him the right way.

Maybe Pat Buchanon would push him - I know he probably agrees with the premise. The day a conservative Nixonite says so - maybe that is the day he goes in.

SO come on MSNBC - talk to Pat - let him say so.

Joe

[BattyDem]

14. I LOVE that!

:toast: :applause: :patriot:

[flyarm]

15. can you put your video on Current ? it is so good!! eom

[tilsammans]

33. Outstanding!

:kick:

Great work!

[yellerpup]

35. Good job!

I just sent it to my whole address book.

[malaise]

38. Fabulous

Run Al Run!

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended

Thank you for the thread, Joe for Clark.:thumbsup:

[katsy]

9. k/r

:applause:

[Harper_is_Bush]

10. "If you believe what you say". That strikes me as insulting.

To suggest that MAYBE Al Gore doesn't "believe" what he says about the climate crisis is a bit much.

And the rest of that sentence: "there is only one place you can really influence events - and that place is not on the sidelines" is a continuation of the insult.

He has already "really" influenced "events". Don't you think? Or has he just been "on the sidelines", in your view?

[Joe for Clark]

11. No not at all - you can cause a ripple in a pond by throwing a

pebble - but if you really think the pond needs to be drained - don't just throw a rock into it and think that will do it.

If he really believes what he says - he needs to drain the pond.

And if it takes an "insult" to get that done, I am happy to oblige.

In fact, I am happy to cause whatever "ripples" that need to happen to solve the problem. At least this problem.

Joe

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. Read the article linked to from this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2157225&mesg_id=2157225

It's a matter of debate where he can have the most effect. As per that article, it may very well be that "ripple effect" that's required to get people to change, rather than some top-down iron fist. Certainly a combination of both, at the least.

But again, I think you can make your appeal and your case without calling into question whether Al Gore really believes what he says.

If you think you need to insult Al Gore to get him to do what you want him to do, then oh well.

But I think it's bloody ungrateful and more than a little ignorant to say something like that after all he's done.

[Joe for Clark]

17. If he were president isn't it true he may push thru a mileage

standard for new autos that could do more to advance fuel efficiency than any education project? How many people you think really even read his stuff?

If he were president of the United States, you think he might push thru a bill to significantly reduce foreign oil imports - especially in this environment - by use of synthetics or other fuels?? Maybe avoid a third world war type conflict??

There is only one place for him - to do what he knows needs to be done - and that place is not on the sidelines.

Joe

[Harper_is_Bush]

20. He could get that stuff just by trading promises for an endorsment.

I don't think you're seeing the big picture.

He is so powerful right now, he can almost dictate what kind of legislation the next POTUS will push for.

Think on it.

[Joe for Clark]

21. No - a lot of people have money that will dictate otherwise.

I am tired of "seeing the big picture" - we are the big picture.

Time to start heating up the tar and getting ready the feathers for the people that don't. And it is time for the United States, our people - to break and do the right thing for us - not a party -us.

He won't just win - he can truly unify a country that is so polarized is genuinely scary.

Joe

[Admiral Loinpresser]

24. My objection to that

is that the current slate of viable Dem candidates is a pack of liers who will say anything to get elected and then go back on their word for political expediency or shifted priorities. Obama ia a possible exception, but I'm not willing to bet the farm on him.

[rateyes]

30. Not if the next president is a fucking Republican. nt

[flyarm]

18. Al gore is too smart to take it as an insult!..and he has already been screwed by the Hillary bunch.

read the new book out about the Clinton's..i watched Tim Russert interview the author yesterday...if anyone insulted Gore it was the Clintons..not those who have supported him then and now as the best this country could hope for today!

fly

Sally Bedell Smith: "For Love of Politics: Bill and Hillary Clinton: The White House Years"

[The Witch]

31. I'm with you Joe, and I'm PISSED at Gore for not getting in.

If the stakes are the survival of the human race, he should know that there is only one leader who can take the bold steps that need taking. Nobody else will do it. Not Edwards, nobody. It has to be him at this point. If he really thinks that we're all gonna die then he needs to step up.

[flyarm]

16. depends on who you want to be president wouldn't you sayyyyy?????? hmm eom

[Harper_is_Bush]

19. Hmmmmm? wHAAAAA????? Noooooooooo!!!

Regardless of who you or I want to be POTUS, there is no MAYBE.

Al Gore believes what he says.

And Al Gore already has "really influenced events".

Sooooooo, nooooooo, that does NOT depend upon who you want to be President.

[flyarm]

22. I want Gore to run..if i have to lay in the street under a speeding car i will do it.

because my country needs him...

i do not think what Joe said is insulting..

may of us know what a deparate situation we are in right now in my country.

i would beg ..for Gore to run..because my country needs him..

i have pleaded , because my country needs him

and if that is insulting so be it!

i believe my country's democracy is close to death..and i feel it is the most dangerous time in my life since the Bay of Pigs..and JFK's murder.

i depise that the bastards that are leaders today have destroyed my contitution and bill of rights..and the only person i see who will, without a doubt, correct that Is Al Gore..so if it is begging ,pleading and screaming ..i will do it..because i have to, for my childrens future.

fly

[Andrea]

26. I agree 100%

It is shocking to me how little attention is being paid by the candidates to the most important issue: the need to restore our constitution. That is why Al Gore should run. It is debatable how much effect he can have on climate change from the outside, but there is no question that the only way he can restore the constitution is from the oval office.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

23. Canadian, Eh?

You're not even an American citizen, I presume. If you're not, then I don't know why you feel the need to get involved in a discussion about who is going to lead the United States.

And I'm sure your favoritism towards Hillary Clinton has very, very little to do with it. Posting in the pro-Clinton threads, and then attacking in the Pro-Gore threads, makes your opinions more than clear and obvious.

I'd give you more credence if you could cast a vote for U.S. President, but I assume you can't. And I would give your arguments more consideration, if you hadn't expressed support for the person who would be Mr. Gore's prime competition, should he enter the race.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

25. Canadians have

just as much stake in who leads America as the rest of us and more moral authority. They have a good country. We have one of the worst countries on the planet.

[Harper_is_Bush]

41. Al Gore doesn't just belong to the USA, sorry.

eh?

[SlowDownFast]

28. Harper_is_Canadian

"Regardless of who you or I want to be POTUS..."

Think of it as family biz.

You're not family.

[Richardo]

29. And the occupant of the White House has no impact outside the borders of the US

:eyes:

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. Think of it as

I'm making it my biz.

And if you don't like it, oh well.

[happygoluckytoyou]

32. IF NOT GORE... COULD WE AT LEAST GET CHENEY

HAHA.... JUST WANTED TO SEE WHO GOT PISSED OFF AT THAT ONE

too much fun today....

bought some property in canada....

a little global warming and glacier national park becomes my private lake....

[woundedkarma]

34. Water.. or a dam

The difference in power that Gore wields as a citizen versus as the president is basically equivalent to a boy standing in front of a dam with his finger in a hole versus having the entire armed forces build a second dam in about a day.

As far as I'm concerned, not running for president means he's abandoned the country. He was the only person in a position to truly turn things around completely and he won't.

I don't blame him in a way. Asking any decent human being to be a leader is *cruel* as the things they have to do and the choices they have to make are hard enough to destroy anyone.

If you're a decent human being, in the position that Mr Gore has been in recently, with the world in the state it is today, you have to do it anyway.

Not running for president makes him just a bugle boy instead of the general he should have been.

[AikidoSoul]

39. I agree -- he's more than a bugle boy

and we want him to be the most he can be

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[yellerpup]

36. K&R!

Well put.

[AikidoSoul]

40. Thanks for this post Joe

much appreciated. :hi: