Gore Would Be This Generation's JFK

[Wiley50]

He'd be everything JFK was and could have been.

That's why I don't blame him for not stepping up to the plate

The Oligarchs and the MIC would never let him live

[Buzz Clik]

1. errrr... ok. I was thinking more in terms of Bob Marley.

[Wiley50]

5. Naw. Don't think he'd die of lung cancer

Although, I've heard that when he was a reporter for the Tennessean

and did an article on Stephen Gaskin and The Farm

He didn't pass up a doobie if it came his way

[Buzz Clik]

7. Keep in mind that Marley was the object of an assassination attempt.

Also, I see Gore as more of the "pop star" than the JFK type.

I do understand what you're saying, however.

[Wiley50]

9. Thanks

I just see the guy as smart enough to see what he's up against.

It's got to be a big decision for him.

[Kazak]

2. What's he got to be afraid of?

Death?

Pfft...

[Wiley50]

3. and you wouldn't be?

Got any kids?

[Kazak]

4. This is silly...

Yes, I do have a kid, btw. What is Al Gore's whole point? What good is our children's future without a habitable environment?

[Wiley50]

6. He's smart enough to see the personal consequences

and it's not silly to be reluctant to be a martyr

when you are smart enough to see it coming

[northzax]

16. So he would rather have the country die than him?

That's not very complimentary of you to say. If he really thought he could change things as President, and didn't do it out of personal fear, he'd be sacrificing 300,000,000 people to live another two decades. That's not a hero, that's a coward.

al Gore isn't a coward, he just doesn't want to be president. Tell me, would you die for the future of the planet? You think he would rather live a few more decades than save his country? What an insult. If true, he doesn't deserve to lead us.

people die in the line of duty every day, they accept that risk, but you don't blame al gore fornot accepting it? You don't think all that much of him, do you?

[Wiley50]

18. Maybe He's smart enough to wonder if he'd live long enough to complete the task

and see that if he didn't, it would just be a waste

[northzax]

31. Maybe...but when does Occam's Razor kick in

And lead us to think that the reason someone isn't running for President is because he doesn't want to be the President?

[flyarm]

32. oh nonsense,..utter nonsense..even my repig friends want Gore to run

they know the mistake they made..

but one person they will not vote for ..if they were dying of thirst on a deserted island and she came with water..is Hillary..they have such a hate for her..and they can't even explain the hate..it is just unadulterated hate..

and as for many many dems i know..they can hardly get over the idea of maybe having to hold their nost to vote for Hillary..in fact many outright say ..they will not vote if it is Hillary and all the begging and pleading by me is not going to change that.

on the other Hand, Gore has nothing but respect from everyone i know...dem and repig.

fly

[northzax]

8. Al Gore does not want to be president

You have to want it, more than anything else, to get it and be good at it. If Al wanted it, he'd be running. I don't want a President who doesn't care, we've just had one of them, how'd that work out?

[TheDoorbellRang]

10. George Washington didn't want to be president either

How'd that work out?

[northzax]

14. You are comparing a colonial system

To the current electoral system? You know that no one actually voted for Washington, right? He never faced a crowd, he never gave a speech, he never asked for a vote. He was elected by acclaim from a few doxen guys, not 300,000,000 citizens.

[TheDoorbellRang]

20. No, I am merely pointing out the fallacy in your pronouncement

that the only good president is someone who wants to be president more than anything else. George Washington is just one example. You can add Eisenhower to the list of reluctant candidates too. As far as I'm concerned, he was the last good Republican president; he managed to refrain from dropping the A-bomb on the USSR when all around him thought that'd be just the ticket.
I can think of someone who "wanted to be president more than anything else" -- Bush. And I think we can both agree on how that's going.

[pscot]

15. First in war, first in peace, first in the hearts of his countrymen

It's hard to imagine anyone in this field rising to the level of greatness. The country doesn't seem to produce that sort any more, though the times cry out for someone with courage and vision.

[Elidor]

11. I'm surprised you think so little of him

He's a much better man than JFK.

[Wiley50]

13. I think the world of both of them

JFK did what he could under the circumstances

He was about to pull the plug on the CIA and the Fed

and starve the MIC to death

It was him or them

They had the upper hand

[bellasgrams]

22. Better than JFK?

Were you even around then? If you were you would have more respect for the man. Did you ever listen to him. Did you ever study him?

[JackORoses]

12. You're damned right he would be!

[whistle]

17. If JFK had run in 2000 he would never have allowed the recount to

...be stopped in Florida and would have contested the SCOTUS decision to allow Bush to claim the win.

[Wiley50]

19. Pray Tell Me, Who Does One Appeal a SCOTUS Decision to?

The only higher power in that case

Is armed revolution

Maybe he didn't want to take us there

(after 7 years of Bush, that path looks much more necessary now)

[whistle]

37. So my passion got the best of me and I was not clear in my meaning

...John Kennedy was not one who took constitutional violations lightly and was also a highly articulate and literate person who would have thoroughly researched the presidents, openly and publically challenged every violation of constitutional rights of due process, found whatever avenue might have been open to hear the people's side of the issues and demanded that the courts recognize that the national elections had in fact been stolen. Although the JFK of 1961 may have been duped into ordering the Bay of Pigs invasion, I seriously doubt that a JFK with the additional experiences and insights and wisdom gained from having lived through the forty years of America which followed would have been cowed by the likes of those who stole the White House and pissed on the U.S. Constitution.

Even as a man of 83 years John F. Kennedy would have taken his place in history and been deserving of the nomination for president in 2000 against an idiot like "Dim-son". He would have stood up with courage and integrity and would never laid down so completely against such an injustice. Afterall, he prepared himself for just such events as attested by his book which was published in 1956 titled "Profiles in Courage".

<snip>
Editorial Reviews

In 1954-55 a freshman U.S. Senator from Massachusetts wrote a book profiling eight of his historical Senatorial colleagues, such men as John Quincy Adams, Sam Houston, and Robert A. Taft. Instead of focusing on their storied careers, John F. Kennedy chose to illustrate their acts of integrity, when they stood alone against tremendous political and social pressure for what they felt was right. This abridged audio is introduced by Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, and the text is read admirably by the late John F. Kennedy, Jr. There is a sense of family legacy and pride about the president's children taking part in the project. At some point, however, one aches to hear the distinctive voice of JFK himself. That wish is fulfilled superbly on the fourth CD, which includes three speeches written and delivered by Kennedy while president--sounding so distant and yet so familiar. Kennedy's Inaugural Address alone more than illustrates why both the man and the twentieth-century icon still captivate our nation, and the world, to this day. B.P. © AudioFile 2003, Portland, Maine-- Copyright © AudioFile, Portland, Maine --This text refers to the Audio CD edition. <MORE>

http://www.amazon.com/Profiles-Courage-John-F-Kennedy/dp/0898457939

This may be just my opinion, but that is what I believe in my heart.

[BattyDem]

24. How exactly do you contest a SCOTUS decision?

I'd love to know.

[WinkyDink]

28. In the streets.

[flyarm]

33. many many of us did take to the streets..did you see it at all on your tv?? no..eom

[BattyDem]

40. I totally agree, but ...

that was our responsibility, not Gore's. We blew it. I'm not talking about the progressive community or the activists. I'm talking about the majority of the country marching in the streets in every state and saying, "There is NO FUCKING WAY we are going to allow FIVE PEOPLE to determine the outcome of OUR election! I don't know if it would have made a difference, but at least we would have tried and BushCo would have gotten a very clear message: "We will not sit idly by while you hijack our country."

They did it in the Ukraine; they did it in Mexico ... but as usual, we Americans sat on our fat, lazy asses and did nothing. :-( What is it going to take to get people to feel the anger (and sadness) that we feel? What is it going to take for them to finally wake up and see what has happened to our country? :shrug:

[Thothmes]

42. Amend the Constitution

The XIV amendment was passed to overcome the effects of the Supreme Courts Dred Scott decision

[Thothmes]

27. JFK

Doubt JFK could have even been nominated in 2000 for the Presidency. His supposed extra martial dalliances and his history of health problems would have been exactly the type of ammo this political opposition would have used to destroy his political career. These things were well hidden from and by the media in the 1960 elections, but would not have been so in 2000. JMO.

[2 Much Tribulation]

21. He's ALREADY leading the nation, it shouldn't be forgotten.... nt

[sjdnb]

23. No one, with an oz of sense, WANTS to be President .... However

it is a moral obligation for ANYONE who feels they can better the lot of the country's and the world's citizenry to step up to the plate. While important, it's not just Global Warming one needs to worry about, the very existence of our democracy and the survival and growth of the middle class is at stake.

This is not a choice for Gore, it is an obligation.

[whistle]

39. I found this endorsement and wondered if it applies

<snip>
Chester Bowles: A Liberal's Quotation on Prophecy

Chester Bowles (1901-1986) was a prominent Democratic liberal. Connecticut Governor and later Congressman, plus Ambassador to India for both Truman and Kennedy. His 1959 book, The Coming Political Breakthrough, heralded a liberal-Democratic victory in 1960, and it was Bowles who engineered a remarkably liberal Democratic platform at the 1960 Convention.*

The book itself is a period piece of conventional-wisdom cold-war liberalism; but there is one passage in it which has always stood out in my mind: his description of prophecy:

It seeks the stern alternatives of the age and defines what they are. It brings the individual electrifyingly close to those alternatives. It tells him that if one alternative is embraced as a guide for action, the result will be this; while if it is rejected, the result will be that.

Nowhere does it say that the future, for good or ill, has already been sealed and placed out of reach beyond further alteration.

Instead it proclaims that if the alternatives are bravely confronted, if enough of the best of human reason and will power are brought to bear on them, there may be a fresh beginning.

Two words: global warming.

Two more words: Al Gore.

<link> http://www.genekeyes.com/blog.html

Does "An Inconvenient Truth" really fit this definition?

[tom_paine]

25. Yes, but there would be no doubt when they killed him this time

I mean:

Air Force One crashes unexpectedly. Icing on the wings the culprit, says NIST, tough weather report indicates weather sunny and 60 degrees.

or

Al Gore Gore Commits Suicide in White House. First Presidential Suicide Ruled Tragedy for the Nation.

on Page 4 of style section: Gore told family to ask questions and have an autopsy if he died mysteriously.

Not that it would do him or his family any good, especially if they Wellstoned all of them at once.

[Raksha]

26. That's always been my biggest concern

about the possibility of Al Gore running for president. Because if he runs, he'll win and as you say "the Oligarchs and the MIC would never let him live."

[Iris]

29. yikes. I never thought of that before.

[flyarm]

34. bullcrap!!.....eom

[Iris]

35. wait... you know what I have and haven't thought of before?

wow. You need to be on that UFOs and ghosts thread.

[Freddie Stubbs]

30. Killed three years into his presidency before he can accomplish his goals?

:shrug:

[Stephanie]

36. Petition for Gore in NY >

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2163784

[book_worm]

38. I love Gore, but "No, he wouldn't be this generations JFK"

why? JFK was generational. He epitomized youth which was part of his appeal. He was only 42 when he was running in 1960, and Gore is now what? 60 and doesn't exactly exude vigor. JFK was also a great public speaker. Gore is better at this now than in 2000 but he still isn't in the JFK/Clinton league as far as exciting a crowd with a speech.

But Gore would have been, if he did run, which he isn't--a formidable and strong candidate who is head and shoulders above any of the current people running in terms of experience and ideas.

[weeve]

41. He may not be JFK ...

... but it would sure be nice if he had RFK Jr. in his administration ( as VP or otherwise ) !! Plus I can totally see him doing an Apollo-style program on the issue of Global Warming, as JFK did. That's close enough for me.