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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:49 AM
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"The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence and..."
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 07:51 AM by kpete
An online friend sent this to me this morning. It's a bill that passed the House last week:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955

`The Congress finds the following:

`(1) The development and implementation of methods and processes that can be utilized to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States is critical to combating domestic terrorism.

`(2) The promotion of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence exists in the United States and poses a threat to homeland security.

`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:54 AM
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1. constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.
If you advocate for ending the occupation you are aiding the terrorist, just ask any Republiucan..
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:54 AM
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4. But that's not what this bill appears to be about. Here:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:48 AM
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14. Appears to address our own radicals yet force HS to abide by const'l law.
Looks like a good bill to me.

:shrug:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:54 AM
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2. Well, that snip is ominous, but there's this, too:
Prohibits the Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent ideologically-based violence and homegrown terrorism from violating the constitutional and civil rights, and civil liberties, of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:58 AM
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8. prevent ideologically-based violence and homegrown terror from violating the constitutional and civ
It sound like they are after groups like PETA and Sierra Club
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:01 AM
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10. The government wasn't doing that already? Where have I been? nt
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:48 AM
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13. I think you're reading that very optimistically.
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 08:48 AM by Marr
I'd interpret that statement as meaning they will adjust your rights so as to bring them in line with DHS policy.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:54 AM
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3. Yep, we better start getting ready for the fight of our lives... n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:55 AM
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5. Oh, my Dog, is DU reactionary today or what?
Did you at least go read it?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:57 AM
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6. And our nation goes on with its fascist shift...
The following summary is provided by the Congressional Research Service, which is a nonpartisan government entity that serves Congress and is run by the Library of Congress. The summary is taken from the official website THOMAS.


4/19/2007--Introduced.

Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 - Amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add provisions concerning the prevention of homegrown terrorism (terrorism by individuals born, raised, or based and operating primarily in the United States).

Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to: (1) establish a grant program to prevent radicalization (use of an extremist belief system for facilitating ideologically-based violence) and homegrown terrorism in the United States; (2) establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States; and (3) conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.

Prohibits the Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent ideologically-based violence and homegrown terrorism from violating the constitutional and civil rights, and civil liberties, of U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents.
THOMAS Home | Contact | Accessibility | Legal | FirstGov


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955&tab=summary
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:00 AM
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9. First, how's this different than the last few decades...
Second, it sounds like they're trying to hamstring the DHS.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:58 AM
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7. "HOMEGROWN TERRORISM"?????
Please tell me how many American citizens are plotting against the United States? I want to know how many of us are dangerous and need to be detained. Is it the 800,000 on the terror watch list?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:03 AM
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11. Don't forget the damn printing press. That's where all the troubles began.
:rofl:
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:40 AM
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12. "(2) The promotion of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism,
and ideologically based violence exists in the United States and poses a threat to homeland security."

Here's a link to get them started...

http://www.freerepublic.com/

That should take care of 90% of their worries.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:51 AM
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15. Free speech is a bitch
Dictators and tyrannies are always against the right of the people to speak freely.

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