If MSNBC can have 2 RW shills like Russert & Williams moderate

[napi21]

a Dem debate, they should have Mike Malloy & Randy Rhodes moderate the Pub debate!

That was a comment just made by a caller to the Stacy Taylor radio show a few minutes ago. I LOVED the idea, and thought I'd share it with all of you.

[luckyleftyme2]

1. RIGHT ON

I'M SO TIRED OF THAT RUSSER,WHAT A ONE WAY SLANT HE PROJECTS.

[JohnnyBoots]

2. Great idea, I'd love to see Thom Hartman moderate one. It will never happen though. n/t

[Cha]

8. I remember Jim Leher moderating

bush and Kerry and even he seemed to be all fascisty..or am I extremely sensitive?

KO should moderate the repukes..:rofl: Seriously!

[Rageneau]

44. Lehrer is a RW media sock puppet, make no mistake.

McNeil had some real integrity, but not Lehrer. His only job is to LOOK objective.

[Cha]

45. That's what I thought..

but, I am super sensitive..I know I sure don't watch him anymore.

[liberal N proud]

3. But that would be fair and balanced

:sarcasm:

[Cha]

4. Just what I was thinking about

a 1/2 hour ago and I didn't hear if from anyone else..it's pretty obvious!

We should really start a letter campaign to the nbc and to the Dems..who moderates the repukes..freakin' tweety?

It's grossly unfair and we shouldn't stand for any LONGER! DA-UM!

[incapsulated]

5. Russert shouldn't be allowed to do any debate

Goddamn remember when we used to have PBS debates, this bullshit makes me sick, nothing but media hacks looking for gotcha's and headlines for their own stupid shows.

It's a farce.

[ddeclue]

6. I thought they were very good and didn't let Hillary wiggle off the hook for a change..

I'm tired of moderators who pitch softballs, make it about the horse race and who let candidates answer the question they want to answer instead of the question they were actually asked.

I say good job Russert and Williams..

And let me add that I saw Russert moderate the Bill Nelson - Katherine Harris Senate race debate live in person in 2006 at the University of Central Florida and thought he did an excellent job of holding Krazy Katie's feet to the fire there too so he is a lot less biased than you apparently are..

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

[Cha]

14. Yeah, well, I've seen

russert moderate hillary against rick lazio and they were ganging up on her but it back fired and she "won" the debate and became our Senator where I wish she would stay.

russert and williams are corporateshills..glad you had the pleasure of getting a good experience outta timmy.

[Buzz Clik]

7. Russert and Williams are rightwing shills?

Oh. Ok. :eyes:

[truebrit71]

9. They're not?

:eyes:

[NNN0LHI]

11. They are

Someone is trying to be funny.

Don

[cali]

13. I don't think so.

And I'm certainly not. Russert strikes me as a media whore. And Williams, simply as a dull, self-important newscaster type. You have no more proof that they're right wing shills, than I have that they're not.

[Buzz Clik]

17. Agreed. Williams and Russert have their obvious flaws, but shills for the right wing?

Williams is a huge disappointment. He rarely can give a sharp analysis of anything; he always defers to the academic approach: "Obama's declaration that he would use military force against terrorist camps in Pakistan even without Pakistani cooperation was a true sign of his naivete and lack of campaign experience. It did, however, give him some foothold as being tough on terror." It's always like that from him -- debating both sides of the issue. His style is one I don't like, but it's just his style.

Russert is pretty consistent with all candidates in his interviews. He challenges them repeatedly to defend their words, and he will not let them dodge the question until they either give a reasonable answer or flatly refuse to answer. When he's interviewing someone we don't care about, he seems wonkish and petty. When he's interview one of our own (Dodds!), he seems mean and relentless.

There's a lot of fuzzy area here, folks. You can dislike someone who is not a whore for the Republicans.

[truebrit71]

19. Williams is a right-wing whore, Russturd is the shill....

...BOTH are despicable as "journalists"...

[cali]

21. Actually,

I have it on good authority- my mother, who lives in the same town as Williams, that he is not right wing. And my mother has been a dem activist for over 50 years.

[truebrit71]

22. I have it on good authority having watched him suck up to * for the past six years..

...that he is a right-wing whore...

[cali]

25. bwahaha

I have it on good authority- having watched you here, that you do nothing but spout mindless slogans.

Hmm, my mother, sharp dem activist who's been a delegate at 3 dem conventions, or you? Yep, I'll go with mom, who's actually met Williams.

btw, I always get a kick out of certain DU posters, who say the exact things in reverse, as right wing pukes. It's funny.

[truebrit71]

27. bwahaha

Are you calling me a right-wing puke? Right after playing the 'Mommy' card?

Dirty pool my friend...dirty pool... ;-)

[cali]

no. I'm not. I'm saying you sound

like anyone who's simply buying the party line. In this case, it's the DU party line that Williams and Russert are right wing shills. Over at freeperville, the party line is that they're left wing shills.

[truebrit71]

31. Well we all know that the people 'over there' are idiots and morans...

...so WE must be right...

"Buying the party line"....ME?

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

You MUST be joking!!!

[cali]

33. nope. not joking.

maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen what I'd call independent thinking in anything you've written.

[truebrit71]

35. Wow....I'm crushed...

....perhaps you should look at a few more of my posts before consigning me to the dustbin of irrelevance....and then get back to me so that I can establish my 'independent' bona fides with you...because that's what truly matters...

:eyes:

[Buzz Clik]

38. Exactly. And we'll note that Freepers et al. never claim that Fox is NOT rightwing.

[Buzz Clik]

23. My impression has always been that Williams bends over backwards to appear fair.

Nearly to a fault. I believe that he finds it necessary to give both sides of an issue even when he is certain that one side is dead wrong.

In many ways, that makes him a reasonable journalist. :shrug:

[truebrit71]

24. I've only seen him bend one way...over for the rethugs...his ass-kissing of * in NO was the worst...

...

[hfojvt]

28. I have it on good authority

Bob Somerby, who quoted his words, that Williams continuously made ridiculous attacks on Gore during campaign 2000. Maybe he's not rightwing, just a clueless lib who buys alot of the rightwing talking points that the rest of the shills are pushing. Some ridiculous attempt at being "fair" or "objective" but it sure did advance his career.

I also personally saw him on the Tonight show sounding like part of the Right Wing Noise Machine. I cannot remember exactly what he said, and maybe I am just partisan, but as I recall, a) it was an attack on prominent Democrats, and b) it was not true. If not for b) I might say he was just being a journalist, but the truth matters and he was not telling it.

[truebrit71]

29. Thank you...

...I was beginning to feel as though I was surrounded by right-wing shill-apolgists... ;-)

[cali]

32. I think he's someone without a great deal of

courage, and that he has this ideal in his head about being non-partisan. He's afraid of being attacked by the right wing noise machine for being a "liberal", and he bends over backward to avoid that label. Funnily enough, that doesn't stop him from being attacked by the right wing noise machine.

[truebrit71]

36. Which means that he lacks character as well as courage...

....regardless of what your dear old mum says...

[cali]

42. actually, dear old mum

didn't say anything about his character. I think he lacks character, but I think the rather unimaginative meme that he and every other major MSM figure but Olberman, are right wing, is just, well, stupid

[truebrit71]

43. ...when did I say every other MSM figure....I thought we were talking about the two most...

...well-known ones on GE-NBC?

[Cha]

10. Yeah, they are and anyone

with the knowledge of how they excoriate Dems could see that.

[Buzz Clik]

18. Only if you look at it from a single perspective.

[Cha]

41. No...all perspectives..

For years.

[MadBadger]

37. I agree and I dont understand people who have this view

that and EVERYONE in the media is a RW shill.

[cali]

12. I don't see how anyone can know if they're right wing shills

I can't tell it from watching them. I don't believe anyone can. And btw, the pukes had Tavis Smiley moderating, so the caller wasn't up to speed.

[napi21]

15. Yea Tavis did moderate a Pub debate, and if I remember right,

most of the Pubs didn't attend!

[KittyWampus]

16. that would be a bloodbath. I'd be almost afraid for the poor bastards they'd be so outclassed

[bullimiami]

20. i dont find williams to be offensive. russert is a conniving asshole though.

he continuously softballs republicans and tries to lay traps for democrats.

[lutefisk]

26. "conniving asshole" fits him well

Just adding an adjective to "asshole" is a perfect way of summarizing many Republicans, and all Bushies.

I can't pick just one for Bush, though. So many fit so well.

[napi21]

30. My biggest problem is the way they state the questions.

ESPECIALLY when they ask each candidate to "Pledge" something they cannot totally control! It's not only Russert & Williams either! I've heard requests to "Pledge" to guarantee all troops will be out of Iraq by a specific time, & guarantee Iran will NOT obtain a nuke.

Anyone who's honest & realistic can't possibly commit to those things, because THEY personally cannot control those things. Commitments like "I guarantee you I will only nominate XXXXX people to the SCOTUS, or I will promise to propose a health care plan to Congress within my first 60 days as Prez are things THEY can control.

[truebrit71]

34. That whole "pledging" thing is ridiculous..and I wish that one of the candidates would smack...

...Russturd in his porcine visage the next time he tries that bullshit...

Tim, you ignorant slob, who made YOU the arbiter of what candidates should pledge to?

[Buzz Clik]

39. And where do you think Russert's insistence on getting an answer to that originated?

I agree with you that the concept of projecting ahead 14 months and making such a pledge is laughable, but that is NOT the attitude embraced by mainstream DU. Threads have been started that declare without ambiguity that a true progressive could never embrace a candidate who did not openly pledge to end the war in Iraq ASAP.

If that question is part of your criteria for Russert being a shill, that would make him a leftwing shill.

[luckyleftyme2]

40. THE BEAUTY OF IT

HILLARY MADE AN ASS OF RUSSET;HE TRIED THREE TIMES ON THE IRAN BIT. "AND SHE SAID I DID DECLARE,NO WAY WOULD SHE LET IRAN GET THE BOMB"
TIM HUNG HIS HEAD CAUSE HE KNEW HE THREW A BOOMERANG AND IT CAME BACK ON HIM.
YEA HE'S A SHILL FOR THE RE PUKES,WITHOUT THEM HE'D BE UNEMPLOYED.
SCROLL BACK ON THE SHOW "MEET THE PRESS" 2003 HOW MANY TIMES DID HE HAVE BUSHCO REPRESENTATIVES ON HIS PROGRAM! MUCHO
SO HE'S A SHILL AND A WHORE!