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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:10 PM
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We need to get serious about impeachment ( Must read)
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:15 PM by ooglymoogly
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:31 PM
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1. K&R (and)
I want Mr. Moore to make a documentary about that.
It's getting late...
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:02 PM
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2. We need to get moving on this.....like someones life depended on it...we must be
citizen soldiers in this effort.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:23 PM
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3. Oooh, Jefferson's Revenge!
I'm surprised that no state legislatures have invoked this yet...

I do want to see Jefferson's Revenge in action.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:15 PM
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5. Both New Mexico & Washington state
are working on it. IIRC, there's at least one more state considering it.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:13 PM
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4. IMPEACH NOW!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:19 PM
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6. Can someone
explain how these efforts have any more impact than me writing to my congressman to request impeachment?


Nothing in these "rules" requires the House to act on this, and in fact, didn't McKinney already introduce articles of impeachment?

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:37 AM
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9. But I think it would brighten your mood a bit to know you lived in a town
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:37 AM by truedelphi
Or City or State that was calling openly for this monster's impeachment
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:09 AM
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10. To explain
As for McKinney, her introduced articles were virtually symbolic in that -- having been unable to introduce them for a floor vote, which would have required a discharge petition (218 cosponsors) -- she could only introduce them into the hopper (that's what it's called). The hopper is the mechanism for distributing bills to the appropriate subcommittee for approval/action.

Since each congress technically starts anew, McKinney's articles would have to be re-introduced to become a source of action. That could happen, but new articles are more likely.

Now, as for the "Jefferson's Rules" thing. These are rules that have always been adopted by congresses as part of their operating procedures. This particularly provision affords state legislatures the right to be heard by congress, should they pass and transmit articles of impeachment.

The "impact" would again be mainly symbolic/PR as there is no binding procedural requirement like a public or recorded voice vote that would force individual members to stand and approve of the regime's war crimes -- or impeach.

That said, symbolic/PR (i.e., persuasion) power is very real. It's only rival is violence.

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:22 PM
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7. I'll kick that. - n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:16 PM
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8. Hell yeah we do!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:33 AM
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11. Impeachment isn't very important.
CONVICTION is the important part.

Clinton was impeached but not convicted.

Certain impeachment without certain conviction could do more damage than not.

Two thirds of the Senate must be ready to convict before impeaching the asshole.


-- unfortunately ---

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:14 PM
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12. Impeace, Indict and Imprison the entire cabal! n/t
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