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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:39 PM
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ON RECORD: U.S. Senator & CIA Chief Implicate Cheney in 9/11 Cover-up!! Look!!
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 03:44 PM by BuyingThyme
Graham said that Goss shared his concerns. In 2003, according to Graham, he speculated to Goss that the White House had set them up in an effort to sabotage the joint September 11 congressional inquiry. Graham says that Goss responded: "I often wondered that myself."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x219507
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.nationaljournal.com%2Farticles%2F0215nj1.htm

FOR THE RECORD: Graham is no longer a Senator, and Goss was not CIA Director at the time.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:40 PM
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1. More material for the articles of impeachment. n/t
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:41 PM
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2. K&R!
:woohoo:

Graham and Goss need to testify under oath!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 04:14 PM
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3. It's the Cheney Teardown...aboutu damn time! K&R
Have we begun the End Game yet?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:34 PM
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43. End Game is definitely in play!
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:37 PM by vickiss
a)Indictment of Tommy Boy DeLay by Austin, TX DA Ronald Earle. - Check!

b)Indictment of at least one very close, senior (current or former) Cheney WH aid. It will be a neocon and the charge will be at least perjury. - Check!

c)c) "Management" will put forth a VP nominee who is a consensus pick, e.g., Powell. * will be forced to take him but think he's saved by the move.

d)Now Bush is all alone. Andy card will be the new Alexander Haig. He’s well connected to "management" and northeast and national mega money. He’ll deliver the message to bush that it's time to go. Bush will go under the guise of an illness, which will encourage wild speculation including but not limited to a mental break. - We know he is insane, just waiting!

e)Once this is in motion, Bush having been resigned, "management" will have their candidate move into the presidency.


Two down, three to go! Prophetic post @ your link auto! :applause:
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:02 PM
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4. too bad
noone in the MSM has the balls to run this story.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:09 AM
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32. Yes we'd think
Olberman or Stewart or someone would know about these things at least!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 05:53 PM
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50. ..........
:kick: :hi:
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:33 PM
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5. Kick while I read....
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:49 PM
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6. JEEZUS
Cheney threatened to end "all cooperation with the joint inquiry by the Senate and House Intelligence committees on the government's failure to predict and prevent the September 11 attacks"?

Why the hell did Graham go along with this? Why didn't he or SOMEONE say, "Wait a minute, Mr VP, there are serious national security questions raised by the handling of that intercept that TRUMP the WH's desire to cover it up!!"

The Repugs, the Dems...they wimped out when the WH started threatening them. They betrayed this country to the very bastards who knew what was going to happen and did nothing to stop it. That is UNFORGIVABLE.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:21 PM
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9. Well, it might not be fair to say that he went along with anything.
But isn't it interesting that we once again find Cheney very concerned about hiding what the NSA was up to BEFORE 9/11.

Particularly when, years later, he would claim that had the (illegal) NSA "terra surveillance program" been in place before 9/11, the attacks may have been prevented.

It seems that the attacks easily could have been prevented, Mr. Cheney.

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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:17 PM
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15. I do see what you're saying, but I'm also pissed off about this other bit
"As a result of the White House pressure over the NSA intercept leak in June 2002 -- applied through Cheney's phone call -- Graham and then-House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss, R-Fla., asked the Justice Department to investigate whether any members of Congress (including themselves) or their staffs were responsible for the leak. Prosecutors and FBI agents later zeroed in on Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., who was then the ranking member on Senate Intelligence, as the person most likely responsible for disclosing the information to the press."

That sounds to me like Graham caved and went along instead of questioning why Cheney was more upset about the intercept being leaked than the problem it highlighted within the NSA. I mean, the joint inquiry by the Senate and House Intelligence committees was about the government's failure to predict and prevent the September 11 attacks.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:47 PM
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21. It has come full circle in ensuring the Plame case
was thoroughly investigated -- ie. another leak. Hope it takes the f'n Dick down!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:33 AM
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24. How can you prevent what you yourself have planned??
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:34 AM by truedelphi
Watch the available videos a few dozen times, The floors of the World trade Center Towers are not "pancaking" they are being blown outwards. Further proof being that if they were indeed "pancaking"then there would large fragments of entire over-sized slabs - not two entire buildings whose total remains were pulverized ash.

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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 03:20 AM
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27. Ditto!
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 05:36 AM
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29. Why? In a word Anthrax
fear of the administration and what they would do
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:56 AM
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30. There were serious penalties for leaking if you were on that committee, remember?
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 07:56 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Bush's media machine was selling a good story that Congressmen leak too much information, and thus, give aid to the enemy. So anyone who did leak, was labeled a traitor.

Of course, no one knew that the enemy they were referring to, was us, the American public.
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:11 PM
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42. the dems always wimp out it seems, even when the people hand them power
thats why * is just laughing at them. He will attack Iran, it really is his only move left. The fact that chinney is two steps ahead of the law and acts with impunity speaks volumes of the second party's ability to extract truth from these scum. Why hasn't anyone stood up to these criminals? Maybe because they are all wish the gravy train to come to their door. Only a few have called bullshit on this cabal and those only quietly. Washington has gone crazy.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:56 PM
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7. Never forget that the WH demanded 9/11 not be investigated AT ALL
The 9/11 commission crap was the compromise.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:46 AM
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39. Exactamundo. (eom)
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:20 PM
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8. kickin for truth
k&r
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:24 PM
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10. How is Graham no longer a Senator?
Did I miss something?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:37 PM
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11. I think he left in 2005.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 08:41 PM
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12. Oh, you may be thinking of Lindsey?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 10:50 PM
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17. Yup. Thanks.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:10 PM
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14. He did not run for relection
Bob Graham U.S. Senator Democrat Florida, is the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. He has supported major Democratic domestic issues and in recent years has spoken out against the soaring national deficit and President Bush's tax cuts, stating that the President had “no economic policy other than granting tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans.” He was also strongly opposed to the war in Iraq and has criticized President Bush for focusing his efforts on Iraq instead of international terrorism: “This administration has virtually ignored homeland security…by focusing all its energy on Iraq.” In 2003, he made a brief bid for the presidency. When he withdrew, he also announced that he would not seek reelection to the Senate.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:04 PM
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13. kcik
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 09:24 PM
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16. Graham & Goss met with an Atta financier on 9/11,
Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad of Pakistan's ISI, who had wired a large sum of money to Atta prior to 9/11. This according to Paul Thompson's timeline at cooperativeresearch.org. One of those weird coincidences. Might not mean anything. I like Graham, but Goss seems sketchy to me.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:30 AM
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23. Kick!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:32 AM
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36. I wonder what Graham thinks about Ptech...
Although a conservative weblink, the info in this article is very damaging to Bushco

Dollars of Terror by Rachael Ehrenfeld
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17730

especially this,

""Ptech is used primarily to develop enterprise blueprints at the highest level of US government and corporate infrastructure. These blueprints hold every important functional, operational, and technical detail of the enterprise. A secondary use of this powerful tool is to build other smart tools in a short period of time. Ptech’s clients in 2001 included the Department of Justice, the Department of Energy, Customs, Air Force, the White House, the FAA, IBM, Sysco, Aetna, and Motorola, to name just a few. ""

Apparently Ptech, now GoAgile, STILL has contracts with Air Force, White House, and the FAA.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:34 PM
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18. kicking...
for more exposure!
:hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:42 PM
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19. 2 things I find disturbing about this. First, Graham had been warned with some detail
about 9/11. Do a search on Randy Glass.

Second, Graham and Goss were having breakfast with the head of Pakistan's ISI on 9/11. This man was later to have been discovered to have sent $100,000 to Atta.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:54 AM
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25. kick kick kick
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:43 AM
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26. here is an article about Graham & Glass..thanks OMMMMMMMMM!!
from my files..from Paul Thompson's timeline...fly

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=1000#a0801glass


Early August 2001: Government Informant Warns Congressmen of Plan to Attack the WTC
Randy Glass. Randy Glass, a former con artist turned government informant, later will claim that he contacts the staff of Senator Bob Graham and Representative Robert Wexler at this time and warns them of a plan to attack the WTC, but his warnings are ignored. Glass also tells the media at this time that his recently concluded informant work has “far greater ramifications than have so far been revealed,” and, “potentially, thousands of lives at risk.” Glass was a key informant in a sting operation involving ISI agents who were illegally trying to purchase sophisticated US military weaponry in return for cash and heroin. He later claims that in July 1999, one ISI agent named Rajaa Gulum Abbas pointed to the WTC and said, “Those towers are coming down.” Most details apparently remain sealed. For instance Glass will claim that his sealed sentencing document dated June 15, 2001, lists threats against the WTC and Americans. Florida State Senator Ron Klein, who had dealings with Glass before 9/11, later will say he is surprised it took so many months for the US to listen to Glass: “Shame on us.” Klein will recall getting a warning from Glass, though he cannot recall if it mentions the WTC specifically. He will say he was told US intelligence agencies would look into it. Senator Graham later will acknowledge that his office had contact with Glass before 9/11, and was told about a WTC attack: “I was concerned about that and a dozen other pieces of information which emanated from the summer of 2001.” However, Graham will say that he personally was unaware of Glass’s information until after 9/11. In October 2002, Glass will testify under oath before a private session of the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, stating, “I told I have specific evidence, and I can document it.”
Entity Tags: Randy Glass, Ron Klein, Bob Graham, Pakistan Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, Robert Wexler, Rajaa Gulum Abbas, World Trade Center
Category Tags: Warning Signs, Randy Glass/ Diamondback



more:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&projects_and_programs=randyGlass


Spring 1999: New Jersey HMO Is Possibly Funding al-QaedaRandy Glass is a con artist turned government informant participating in a sting called Operation Diamondback. He discusses an illegal weapons deal with an Egyptian-American named Mohamed el Amir. In wiretapped conversations, Mohamed discusses the need to get false papers to disguise a shipment of illegal weapons. His brother, Dr. Magdy el Amir, has been a wealthy neurologist in Jersey City for the past twenty years. Two other weapons dealers later convicted in a sting operation involving Glass also lived in Jersey City, and both el Amirs admit knowing one of them, Diaa Mohsen. Mohsen has been paid at least once by Dr. el Amir. In 1998, Congressman Ben Gilman was given a foreign intelligence report suggesting that Dr. el Amir owns an HMO that is secretly funded by bin Laden, and that money is being skimmed from the HMO to fund al-Qaeda activities. The state of New Jersey later buys the HMO and determines that $15 million were unaccounted for and much of that has been diverted into hard-to-trace offshore bank accounts. However, investigators working with Glass are never given the report about Dr. el Amir. Neither el Amir has been charged with any crime. Mohamed now lives in Egypt and Magdy continues to practice medicine in New Jersey. Glass’s sting, which began in late 1998, will uncover many interesting leads before ending in June 2001.
Entity Tags: Magdy el Amir, Osama bin Laden, Diaa Mohsen, Randy Glass, Mohamed el Amir, Operation Diamondback
Category Tags: Pakistani ISI, Randy Glass/ Diamondback, Terrorism Financing


more:

video...

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=glass-graham_video_wmv

New documentary, 9/11 Press for Truth, based on the Complete 911 Timeline.
View Trailer | Purchase 9/11 Press for Truth DVD
A fascinating video relating to an important unheeded warning of the 9/11 attacks was shown on WPTV, an NBC TV station in Florida on October 7, 2002. This video has been overlooked and forgotten until now.


What did Senator Bob Graham (left) and US intelligence know about the warning from Randy Glass (right) before 9/11?
In this video, Randy Glass, a private US citizen working as an undercover agent in a government sting operation, discusses how he learned about a threat to the World Trade Center and tried to warn various officials in government before 9/11. Florida State Senator Ron Klein and US Senator Bob Graham admit being given a warning by Randy Glass in the months before 9/11. What was the warning, who else knew about it, and why wasn’t it acted upon?

Though the video doesn’t discuss it, the sting operation Glass was part of recorded agents working for Pakistan’s secret service, the ISI, say on more than one occasion before 9/11 that the World Trade Center was “coming down.”

For more information about Glass, ready the Randy Glass timeline




thanks for bringing that up OMMmmSWEETOMMM!!..we have been at this since the get go haven't we??????!!!!!!!!!!!


fly
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:45 AM
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33. Thank you dear fly for the links! The Randy Glass story and video is a must read/see for everyone!
and fly! :hug:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:14 AM
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28. I've got a real speculative observation about that breakfast with General Mahmoud.
In effect, General Mahmoud was a hostage. Surely he had to submit to a
weapons search beforehand. Surely he was subject to arrest for his
participation in the 9/11 plot.

Who else was a hostage in and around 9/11?

Shafig bin Laden, at a meeting of the Carlyle Group.

Mohammed Atta, if he'd paid for his Maine motel room with a credit
card.

Osama bin Laden, who presented himself at a military hospital in
Rawalpindi, Pakistan, supposedly for dialysis treatment, on 9/10/01.
Normally Osama took dialysis in Peshawar, a hick town in the mountains
near Tora Bora. Rawalpindi is where Islamabad Int'l Airport is located.
It's the HQ of the Pakistani military, filthy with CIA and US military
advisors.

George W. Bush, who remained in a highly publicized location when his nation
was under aerial assault and the FAA believed that as many as 11 planes had
been hijacked. The Booker School was 20 seconds away from the Sarasota
Int'l Airport, and almost directly in line with its runways, and clearly marked
by the railroad and the golf course and the major e-w boulevard, Dr. Martin
Luther King.



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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 07:57 AM
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31. Please elaborate
All of these "coincidences" have a theme to them, although I've never been able to figure out what. The one thing that always struck me as very weird, was how scared Bush was and why wasn't he removed immediately from the school by the SS.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:48 AM
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34. Shrub was so "scared" that once he was up in the air, there wasn't a fighter jet escort
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 09:49 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
from between 45 minutes to an hour, and he held a photo-op on Air Force One, and those photos were later given as perks at a GOP fundraiser....

And where was America being attacked from? The air.....
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:45 AM
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38. The common theme is that they are all in effect hostages--
powerless to prevent harm to themselves or arrest.

An exchange of hostages is traditionally how very large
deals are secured.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:56 AM
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35. And I on the other hand have my own belief of why he was there as was
Papa Bush and Bin Laden's brother. I believe they wanted to witness as close as they could, their triumph (crime).

There is a report from 60 minutes on Bin Laden being in the Pakistani military hospital. Here is the link to the article and the link to the video is on the right side of the page.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories

Hospital Worker: I Saw Osama
Accused Terrorist Said To Have Had Dialysis On Sept. 10

Jan. 28, 2002
(AP)

Quote

"They military had him surrounded. I have seen many pictures of the man. He is the man we know as Osama bin Laden."
Hospital employee

(CBS) Everyone remembers what happened on Sept. 11 and, reports CBS News Correspondent Barry Petersen, here's the story of what may have happened the night before.

In a tale as twisted as the hunt for Osama bin Laden, CBS Evening News has been told that the night before the Sept. 11 terrorists attack, Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan. He was getting medical treatment with the support of the very military that days later pledged its backing for the U.S. war on terror in Afghanistan.

Pakistan intelligence sources tell CBS News that bin Laden was spirited into a military hospital in Rawalpindi for kidney dialysis treatment.

Continued at above link.

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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:50 AM
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41. Good guess...
I have also thought about that maybe guys like Bob Graham are set up and put in these spots so that they help cover up after the fact, because to comment at all about how you had breakfast with a guy who directed 100 large to Atta, you're going to look really bad.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 11:46 PM
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20. Bout broke my nominate button!
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:20 AM
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22. Kicking for truth about Darth n/t


:kick:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:51 PM
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49. And again!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:42 AM
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37. but he was in 2004, and the way I read it
Graham's talk with Goss took place then.
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 10:48 AM
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40. Why did Cheney go apesh-- over this info being leaked?
"The match is about to begin" and "Tomorrow is zero hour."
Was it because he scheduled the wargames on the same day? ;-)
http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:24 PM
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45. With Cheney, it's all about the NSA.
The NSA was obviously tracking the people who were shilled into attacking us on 9/11, and Chaney seems a bit uncomfortable with anybody even bringing it up. I wonder why.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:00 PM
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44. Kick + Recommend.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 02:49 PM
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46. K & R
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 02:59 PM
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47. kcik
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 08:35 PM
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48. ........
:kick:
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