Ore. woman, 84, pleads guilty in boy's sex abuse case (just goes to show stupidity has no age limit)

[uppityperson]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003573839_webeldersex15w.html

An 84-year-old woman accused of attempted rape involving an 11-year-old boy in her foster care has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge after confessing to having sex with the child, prosecutors said today. Georgia Audean Buoy, of The Dalles, a Columbia River town about 90 miles east of Portland, will serve 36 months in prison, said Leslie Wolf, chief deputy district attorney for Wasco County.

Buoy originally faced six separate charges but reached a plea agreement on a single charge with prosecutors, Wolf said. In a taped confession, Buoy admitted having sex with the boy while he was in her care in 2004, Wolf said.

"Obviously, with this case, there is going to be a lot of disbelief so we wanted make sure people knew it was a confession," Wolf said.

(clipped)
"When an adult victimizes a child, the sex of either partner is irrelevant — the damage is done and it's permanent," Nisley said...(bit more@ link)

Some grow wiser with age, some don't.

[Lautremont]

1. It says she pleaded guilty to attempted sex abuse,

but she says she had sex with the boy. Wouldn't that be successful sex abuse?

[uppityperson]

2. plea bargin probably.

plead guilty to a lesser charge rather than go to trial. Seems like it would be and I hope the kid gets help.

[pitohui]

5. yes it's a plea bargain

i doubt the woman had sex w. anybody, they terrified an 84 year old woman into making a false confession, well done, i hope they are proud of themselves

we learn nothing from the guildford four or from "a death in canaan" or a million other false confessions do we?

if something is beyond belief and the only proof is a confession, it didn't happen

[uppityperson]

7. ah, pithoui chims in "I don't think it happened so it didn't they terrified her"

Because you doubt an 80ish woman would have sex with a child, therefor it is not real? "When an adult victimizes a child, the sex of either partner is irrelevant — the damage is done and it's permanent," Nisley said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/regional/index.ssf?/base/news-18/1171575849225610.xml&storylist=orlocal

...Buoy originally faced six separate charges but reached a plea agreement on a single charge, Wolf said.
(clip)She noted that Buoy had faced eight years in prison on the original charges but her "age and lack of prior criminal convictions had a significant impact with the resolution of this case."

In a taped confession, Buoy admitted having sex with the boy while he was in her care in 2004, Wolf said.

[pitohui]

12. do you know anything about female biology?

the 84 year old woman was not interested in having sex with an 11 year old, make it a little believable!

[uppityperson]

13. Yes, as a female I know a little bit about female biology. Do you?

All sex is not intercourse and all sex is not between fertile men and women. Did you know that? Did you know you can sexually abuse someone without having intercourse with them? Or is the problem that you think all people lose their interest in all sex after a certain age? In which case I would like to ask do you know anything about human sexuality?

[pitohui]

20. apparently more than you do

get back to me when you're 84 about how much interest you have in sex with 11 year olds or even 61 year olds

there is a reason men as early as their 50s have to take pills to get it up and it ain't because god and nature intended for humans to experience raging uncontrollable sexual desire at 84

hate to be the one to break it to you, but come on! make it a little believable! the body changes, the level of hormones change, reality is what it is

we know that prosecutors constantly extort false confessions from vulnerable people, my god, by this time of century everyone should know that

[uppityperson]

31. I have no interest in sexually abusing a minor, no matter what my age.

Some men have to take pills by age 30, some never, which has no bearing on sexually abusing minors. Of course prosecutors get false confessions, duh to obvious postings. And some older adults still like sex.

I wonder if there was a history with this woman as it seems odd to start this behavior in your 80s. I wonder, I hope, they screened her for alzheimers and other types dementia also.

Did you know that rape isn't because the perpetrator has "raging uncontrollable sexual desire", no matter what the age of the rapist is?

[Clark2008]

21. You think 84-year-old women aren't interested in sex?

:crazy:

Now, why anyone would want to have sex with an 11-year-old in beyond my realm of thinking, but I can assure you that older women are still interested in sex.

Edited to add: my mother, my grandmother and I ALL worked in nursing and assisted living homes. Believe me - the hardest part of our day was spent chasing the coupling partners out of one another's rooms. It wasn't that we cared so much about their carnal knowledge of one another, but the sex MIGHT interfere with the medications they were on and no one wanted to get sued.

[pitohui]

24. you are conflating two different populations

yes, people in nursing homes who are so impaired they are losing their minds and their judgment act like children sticking their wherevers whatever, if you want to call that sex, be my guest, i guess this makes kindergarten kids playing doctor having sex also?

i don't know too many 84 year old women out in the world who are interested in that, mostly what i hear is "i'm glad to be done with all that" -- come on, at that age, for women, it hurts!

[Clark2008]

29. Um - in assisted living homes, they AREN'T senile.

State law here requires they be of their faculties to even live in an assisted living home. It's more like a frat house for older folks. I'm talking about people in their 70s and 80s who shouldn't live alone because they forget things - I'm not talking about the classic stereotype of senile old coots and cootettes.

And, it doesn't always hurt. People are living longer because their bodies are able to sustain longer living - and that INCLUDES the sexual aspect of their lives.

[depakid]

3. Crikey!

[uppityperson]

6. Found a picture. I wonder if senility or just nastiness?

[MADem]

4. Jesus, now I have heard EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING.

This isn't Harold and Maude after all. Good grief. Words fail....

[mongo]

8. I have my doubts

that this woman is guilty of anything.

Without the confession, which is more believable -- that an 84yo woman is coercing an 11yo boy into sex, or that an 11yo boy in foster care makes up some allegation when he is pissed off at his care provider?

Did this woman have a court appointed attorney? How aggressive were the cops?

People are bought and sold like cattle in our legal system every day. Court appointed "defense" attorneys scres people over for better favor with judges for their paying clients, or their run for county prosecutor in the next election. Cops lie like hell about evidence they don't have to get you to confess.

If she did it, then considering her age, justice served -- But I'm just having a hard time with Ockham's razor on this one.

[pitohui]

11. yeah i have my doubts too

it is just too easy to bully a woman this age, we have documented cases of healthy young people being bullied into false confessions of serious crimes...which is why i cited the guildford four and "death in canaan" cases above

if the only evidence is the confession of a frightened old woman, then to me there is no evidence at all frankly

we have too much evidence over the past decades that confessions without strong supporting evidence are coerced and meaningless

i think a person would have to be a little mad these days to even consider fostering a troubled child, as the glorious marquis once said, no good deed goes unpunished

[dsc]

9. I wonder if we will hear from the

"It isn't abuse crowd" we always hear from in these cases. Or the "where were teachers like this when I was growing up" crowd. No wait, we won't. She's old and ugly. Only the pretty rapists are given free passes.

[uppityperson]

14. and the old ones seem to be given a pass by some also.

"Because she is 84 she is incapable of sexually abusing a child."

[Clark2008]

23. These people obviously have never worked in an "old folks

home."

I have - so has half my family. Believe me - those older folks still like to get it on. Maybe not every night, but, yes - I've chased my fair share of naked oldsters from one another's rooms (so that the assisted living home wouldn't get sued. We really couldn't care less. They ARE adults, but we had to be mindful of heart medications and such that "strenuous" activity might hinder).

[mongo]

26. Well, the anyone accused of a sex crime is automatically guilty

crowd is out in full force today.

[uppityperson]

32. naw, only in case of confessions and this is really an odd story.

The 2 things I wonder are was she screened for alzheimers or other dementias, and what history did she have since this is odd behavior (sexually abusing minors) at age 80 unless there was an underlying problem (dementia). Time to look at other kids in her past too.

[MissB]

10. One must wonder how long she's been doing this sort of thing.

[Poll_Blind]

15. So far, almost all the possibilities presented by posters seem...

..equally plausible to me. Weird. Usually something jumps out as being more likely.

  I do want to put 2cents in on whomever mentioned the biological aspect of this. It's not just the desire to have sex, from what I recall the vagina undergoes certain changes if a woman is not regularly having sex, which cause the vaginal walls to become thin. At an advanced age such as this I'm not sure if the vagina would be in any kind of shape to have conventional intercourse or even properly lubricate in preparation for it.

  I don't know what kind of sex it was reported they had, or how well-endowed or physically-excited this young boy was but there are a number of things which, if presumed to be conventional sexual intercourse with repeated penetration, could have made this extremely uncomfortable, painful or even dangerous (due to vaginal tearing) for a woman of her age.

  The article is light on the details, but the situation (outside of its aberrant nature, period) is highly unusual.

PB

[uppityperson]

16. I have known people in nursing homes acting out sexually inappropriately.

What I wonder is what her state of mind is. Odd case.

[Poll_Blind]

17. Oh no, I don't doubt that. I read your earlier message in which...

...you describe that sexual interaction is not necessarily defined as some might- and I think it was a point well worth making, especially since this is in the legal realm.

  I could not agree more with you that this is an odd case. I too am interested in the state of mind of the accused and the accuser. I don't want to draw unnecessary connections, because I think at this point there aren't any except to say that as a child of the 80's I remember clearly the McMartin Preschool insanity which swept across America in the 80's.

  For quite a while there, from copycat news stories, it seemed as though satanists had taken over the daycare industry. I try never to forget that. At least in my neck of the woods, it was like a second Red Scare. Seriously. While I certainly believe that pedophiles probably exist in greater numbers, even percentage wise, today in America (our fucking culture has taken a nose dive...see Bratz line of toys for just ONE example of the mainstream cultural oversexualization of pre-teen children), I worry that an over-zealous judicial system may not be serving the citizenry as well as we deserve.

  Which, I guess, is about three paragraphs too many to say: Dude. I hear ya. I have no fucking idea either, but it's weirder than a Dutch nightmare.

PB

[pitohui]

22. dementia isn't being sexual

dementia is a disease, you are not in control of your actions, people acting out "inappropriately" in nursing homes are not perverts, they are people whose minds are being eaten by a terrible disease

i really hope the OP never has to learn about this, i really do, but it affects more families than you might think

we know prosecutors fabricate cases to get in the news and yet we believe every wild hair that they throw into the media, frankly i think skepticism is required in extraordinarily odd cases

[Poll_Blind]

28. I clarified this in reply #19. I agree with you. The only thing that...

...comes to mind outside of intended action, false accusation, or flat-out dementia is pre-senile dementia, which is a gray area as far as conscious intent and understanding goes.

PB

[pitohui]

18. there doesn't seem to be any physical evidence

if she was 84 and having vaginal penetration, there would be tearing as you say

most people of that age who are acting out inappropriately in nursing homes have dementia, they are not having "sex" any more than a toddler age 3 is having sex because he sticks his finger in something

i don't think it particularly is unusual for prosecutors to extort confessions from vulnerable people, i think it happens every day, although usually to young black men so as a society we don't much give a care

[Poll_Blind]

19. Not to flip to Devil's advocate but the tearing all depends on...

...what kind of shape her vagina was in, whether she is physically able to lubricate, and of course, what was actually alleged to be the sex act. So many don't knows.

  I agree about the dementia although pre-senile dementia opens up a gray area open to interpretation.

  I also agree with you heartily that our judicial system has become predatory. It's not as bad as some countries' judicial systems but we can do a world better than the way it's going currently.

PB

[Clark2008]

27. OK - that makes more sense.

But, I still want to tell you... old folks STILL enjoy sex. Don't think they don't. And I'm talking about the ones who AREN'T senile.

[uppityperson]

30. I missed the part where it says she had vaginal intercourse.

Rape does not mean only vaginal/penis intercourse. "Attempted rape" also does not mean any sort of vaginal penetration.

[lonestarnot]

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