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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:10 AM
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Fight on the House floor.
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:13 AM by patrice
Somebody keeps trying to interrupt Tim Ryan of Ohio and he won't yeild.

He ended with "You go to war with the pResident you have. You don't go to war with the pResident you wish you had."
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:12 AM
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1. You go to war with the president you have. Not the president you wish you had.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:12 AM
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2. Oh. NO. I mean NO one interrupts my C-SPAN hero Tim Ryan.
Cranking up the c-span right now.

I :loveya: tim ryan's passionate speeches!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:15 AM
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3. Damn... I hope that makes it to YouTube!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:20 AM
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10. It was indeed a classic. (eom)
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:15 AM
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4. awww man, i missed his speech. it's back to the rethug club.
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:16 AM by ncrainbowgrrl
:(
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:17 AM
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7. Obviously, no one has told Shadegg that Stewart skewered him
tonight! :rofl: Hope he is in the replay too!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:16 AM
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5. I thought they agreed to end debate at midnight every day?
Are they still going on now?
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:17 AM
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6. like the energizer bunny... still going...
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:19 AM
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8. Actually, the CSPAN narrator said it would be going on until 1 am.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:21 AM
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11. Yeah, they added an extra hour tonight.
I hope Ryan's speech makes Youtube, too.

The best part: "We didn't call you unpatriotic when you sent soldiers to war without enough armor. We called you incompetent, but not unpatriotic."

(To the best of my recollection. He said it better.)
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:22 AM
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12. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Sorry I missed it! Hope Crooks and Liars caught it, or someone loads it to youtube!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:24 AM
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14. !
:wow:

:applause:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:28 AM
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16. He also said something about the Republicans constantly comparing the Iraq war
with our Revolutionary war, Civil war and WWII. Then he says that Chimpyboy isn't Washington, Lincoln or Roosevelt.

You got that right.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:20 AM
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9. Smaaaaackdown.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:22 AM
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13. Shadegg just quoted that book
Muslims are supposed to engage in their struggle ". . . peacefully if possible and violently if not." Well don't you think we settled that choice when we invaded?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:26 AM
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15. Fuck you Shadegg ... the world already thinks we are monsters
and nonbinding resolution isn't going to change that one bit, but it might make them begin to think that we are finally getting our heads out of our ass!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:30 AM
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17. I love me some Kendrick Meeks!
Go you 30-something, GO!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:38 AM
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21. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is up and is delivering a heart wrenching address.(eom)
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:41 AM
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24. She just did a smackdown of (R) Steve Buyer. (eom)
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:30 AM
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18. Ryan made clear points on the shoddy treatment of theTroops.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:33 AM
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19. Wasserman-Schultz Is Up
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:38 AM
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20. I love her
If only Landreu had a bit of her spine, NOLA might be on better footing now, huh?
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:41 AM
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25. Major ass kicking

.....Wasserman-Schultz is throwing right back to the asshole from IN.

Cheers
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:41 AM
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22. Wasserman & Buyer Going At It nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:52 AM
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34. She reminds Rethug Buyer of how long congress has gone without oversight of Bush.nt
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:41 AM
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23. Stephen Buyer - phishing for fodder!
:puke:
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:43 AM
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26. Time to fill his email

...with examples of republicans questioning the patriotism of Democrats.

Cheers
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:44 AM
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27. He needs to go have a nap
He's bloviating and not doing it very well either.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:44 AM
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28. Tomorrow,we have to have a major letter-writing thanking wasserman and ryan
for having the balls to throw this shit right back in their faces
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:45 AM
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29. Buyer's spinning more than Bill O' Leilly.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:47 AM
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30. Damn-Ryan is KICKING ASS
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:48 AM
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32. Chris Murphy up
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:52 AM
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35. EXCELLENT point: Bush does nothing to address the causes
of the insurgency.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:47 AM
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31. Tim Ryan


.....going back to kick ass again!

Cheers
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:49 AM
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33. I like that Ryan just doesn't let them trash his points!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:56 AM
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36. Tell me Buyer isn't comparing Gulf1 to the Invasion of Iraq!!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:58 AM
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38. Yeah he is
Whining about what he didn't have ... sure sounds like "if it was good enough for me, it's good enough for them", doesn't it?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:59 AM
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40. "we didn't even have doors on our humvees"
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:03 AM
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44. You also had a real "coalition" that had your back. You sorry snot nose bastid.
I'd spit in your face right now.:puke:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:07 AM
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46. Not to mention that Saddam was still in Poppy's pocket somewhat
back then. After all, he did leave him alone, didn't invade Baghdad and force Saddam to go on the lamb, did he? Nope, he didn't. He tried to control him because he was OUR guy. We LET him invade Kuwait just so we could flex our muscle, nothing more.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:11 AM
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48. true dat.(eom)
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:57 AM
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37. Buyer - telling his "I walked to school, uphill, both ways" type of story
ain't going to cut it. We didn't have doors on our vehicles! We didn't have body plates!

And neither do these kids Dude. What's your point?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:59 AM
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39. Is he saying in effect We didn't have the up-armour so they dont' need it?
No way! I can't believe anyone would be that stupid.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:03 AM
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43. That's how I took it
I hear Bill Cosby in my head saying "we ate dirt, and we were happy to have it" ... that is how he was presenting it imho.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:00 AM
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41. Buyer's got to stress the point that he's a vet of Desert Storm. Tough guy.
But if doesn't watch out, Tim Ryan is going to body slam his sorry ass.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:03 AM
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45. I wonder how many other sources he has read on the topic.
He's very impressed with this one book. Who is that author? I want to look him/her up.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:08 AM
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47. He's filibustering. He's quoting the bible now.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:11 AM
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49. I have no doubt that Buyer has never read a subject matter expert
with the opposite opinion.

Cherry picking the evidence - as usual.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 01:03 AM
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42. omg..this was incredible!! Ryan kicked ass and wasn't taking prisoners..
he was going for blood!!

even my husband who it not political was sitting on his computer and when the indiana asshole Steve Buyer started speaking my husband said in unison with me..bullshit!!

In fact my husband got up to see who was speaking when Ryan was speaking..and my husband said wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

( my husband is a former reservist, during nam)

Ryan was wonderful..powerful..and there are not enough words to say he was right and he is now my hero!!

I am happy i sent him money while running for office.....he did us proud!!

I will be sending him a letter tommorrow to thank him from the bottom of my heart!!

and that dickhead Shadegg..followed the "letter of talking points" to the "T" , he even read out of a book about Jehaidsts..what a frigging joke..a sad ,pitiful example of someone who says they support the troops..he is a propagandist!
and a boring one to boot!!

Debbie was wonderful as well..she went right after Buyer..

and Meeks who i adore was great as well...for the closing they sure made this exciting and truthful!!

I am a delegate for the state of Fla..and i believe Ohio and Fla congress people did us proud tonight!!

fly
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 02:02 AM
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50. I am fairly content with my representative due to his voting record,
but does he ever speak? My ability to deal with stress does not allow me to watch C-SPAN's coverage of these events for very long. His name is Costello (D) Illinois.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 04:11 PM
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51. Link to Ryan's speech from last night! Woot!
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:13 PM
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52. Daym!

That guy is good!

And i didnt know they had already tried a surge three times before.

Thanks for the video, while posters comments were good, you still need to see and hear him.. Wow!

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:18 PM
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54. I agree
It's a must see for yourself moment.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:32 PM
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55. I didn't know this either. He was quoting surges in the 20,000 range with stats
to prove they resulted in more violence. I have not heard this before.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:38 PM
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56. Well, it makes sense if you stop and think about it
Wasn't there a big surge just after the 2004 elections when Fallujah exploded? If I remember correctly, he had brought troops home before the election and they had backed off most aggressive missions, then after the election, all hell broke loose and the numbers of deployed rose again.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:44 PM
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57. Oh yeah. The demolition of the city, people murdered in their bed and the white phosphorus.
How could I forget?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 09:15 PM
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53. Delete
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 09:18 PM by Sydnie
wrong place
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