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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:04 AM
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140 inches of snow and shoveling of roof tops...
do the redstaters believe in global warming now?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:05 AM
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1. "how can there be global warming?"
"All this snow and cold proves that it's a liberal lie."




that's how.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:06 AM
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2. 6 months from now you'll be whining about how hot it is
It is called "Climate change". And it does not happen in a linear fashion. Have you forgotten just how warm December was?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:07 AM
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3. "I don't not see nothing in the Bible about it." - republicon christo-cronies
"So shut up and sit down you liberal pinko. Why do liberals hate planet earth?" - republicon christo-cronies
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:13 AM
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4. Not unheard of before....they always get a lot of snow!!
Season--------------------------------------- City With Most Snow
1976-77 - 70.6 - 74.4 - 199.4 - 92.1 - 145.0 - Buffalo
1993-94 - 88.1 - 131.3 - 112.7 - 126.2 - 163.8 - Syracuse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowfall_Statistics_for_Golden_Snowball_Award_Cities
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:25 PM
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7. We did not get 140 inches of snow in Buffalo this month...
that is in the Oswego, NY area, quite a bit away from us. We have had no more than two feet of snow right now. The 1976-77 statistics were from our famous Blizzard of 77. Lake Erie did not freeze over in the beginning of winter this year due to the mild temperatures and that is where we pick up all the snow. The weather people on TV tend to call anything within 50-100 miles from us as the Buffalo area.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:29 PM
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8. I included two cities and
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 12:33 PM by Breeze54
a link to more....

Notable Snowfall Statistics


* 5-10 in (13-25 cm) per hour documented

* 68 in (172 cm) at Adams, NY on 1/9/76

* 102 in (259 cm) at Oswego, NY 1/27-31/66


:hi:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:15 AM
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5. God is angry
God is announced the second coming,
in whitish frozen delicacy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:34 PM
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10. what a beautifully expressed thought.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 11:15 AM
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6. See, that's the fun part about Global Climate Change
Edited on Fri Feb-16-07 11:16 AM by Tesha
See, that's the fun part about Global Climate Change --
it's full of tricks and some of them are a bit more
subtle than your avergae 5 second Faux News soundbite.

When you have lakes that, because of warming, don't
do their normal winter thing (by freezing over),
you end up with more lakewater evaporating and
producing tons more "Lake Effect Snow".

So even though the planet is warming, some places will
see the effects as "lots more wintertime snow".

Tesha
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fidgeting wildly Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:33 PM
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9. Lake effect snow.
That's my understanding of what's happening in the Oswego area. The lake waters are warmer than they should be, and that's the force behind the 100+ inches of snow they've seen in that area.

Sounds like a symptom of global climate change to me.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:44 PM
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11. Yep. When the lake doesn't freeze over - the water vapor drives the lake effect snow
...dry canadian airmasses will absorb water vapor from the (relatively warm) open waters of the lake, then precipitate when the airmass re-cools over land. Ironically, lake effect snows are worse during winters/years having mild temperatures.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:54 PM
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12. Extreme lake effect snows impacted parts of Oswego County, NY - 2004

The image to the left shows the snow cover on January 10th, 2004, after a storm left parts the east coast blanketed in snow. Another storm late in the month (26th) left over a quarter of a million people without power after snow and ice swept across Georgia and the Carolinas. At least 14 people died in storm-related accidents (Reuters). The same storm dumped up to a foot of snow in parts of the Northeast, while areas of the Midwest (especially Minnesota) received over a foot of snow in a separate storm during the same period. Extreme lake effect snows impacted areas of western New York state with some parts of Oswego County, NY recording over 130 inches of snow for the month and over 3 feet for a single 3-day event near the end of January.

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Lake-Effect Snow Climatology in the Great Lakes Region

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/elements/lkefsnw3.htm

The most spectacular lake-effect snow squalls occur eastward of the lee shores of Lake Ontario and Lake Erie in New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Lake-effect snowfalls in this snowbelt are generally quite local, averaging 30 km (20 miles) across and from 16 to 112 km (10 to 70 miles) in depth, but can accumulate snows at amazing rates.

For example, in a sixteen hour period crossing December 7-8, 1958, 102 cm (40 in) of lake-effect snow fell at Oswego, New York on the southeastern shore of Lake Ontario. During this intense storm which lasted over northern New York from December 5 to 11, a total of 183 cm (72 in) accumulated just south of Buffalo. Not to be outdone, Bennetts Bridge, 50 km (30 miles) east of Oswego, reported a snowburst of 130 cm (51 in) in 16 hours on January 17, 1959. In February (4-5) 1972, an accumulation of lake-effect snow dropped 142 cm (56 in) on Oswego, trapping the participants of the annual Eastern Snow Conference!

But the granddaddy of all lake-effect snows in the Great Lakes basin appears to be the accumulation that hit Oswego, New York over the five day period 27-31 January 1966 (some of the snow may have been due to a blizzard moving up the coast). By the time the snow abated, 259 cm (102 inches) of snow had accumulated, about two thirds of the city's annual total. About half of that total fell on the 31st.

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-16-07 12:59 PM
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13. You underestimate their willingness to be ignorant.
The argument I hear from these cretins now is this: Look at all the snow, you still think Global WARMING is real?

These people are idiots. They don't CARE about learning the basics of how the climate works.
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