FBI provocateur organized neo-Nazi rally

[yurbud]

People seem to have a hard time wrapping their brain around this idea, but this story makes it simple: the government chooses to be involved with bad guys at a number of levels

• surveillance
  
  
• plant an informant in a group
  
  
• have your plant incite the group to do something stupid so you can catch them.
  
  
• have your plant incite the group to do something stupid and DON'T catch them if it serves a purpose
  
  
• the group itself may be government run and do bad things to put stink on an ideological opponent as was done with Gladio in Europe and various acts of violence blamed on commies in Latin America. In the latter case, one of our intelligence agents admitted as much in a declassified wire to his boss.
  

This cloak and dagger shit is annoying. Like the righties, I wish that the good guys wore white hats and the bad guys wore black (or vice versa), but we ignore this kind of shit at our peril, especially when the Bushies are itching for an excuse to attack Iran, and way back when Cheney's orders to draw up plans to attack Iran were given to the air force, he said it would be in response to a terrorist attack.
http://www.amconmag.com/2005a/2005_08_01/article3.html

Neo-Nazi rally was organized by FBI informant

Henry Pierson Curtis | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted February 15, 2007

A paid FBI informant was the man behind a neo-Nazi march through the streets of Parramore that stirred up anxiety in Orlando's black community and fears of racial unrest that triggered a major police mobilization.

That revelation came Wednesday in an unrelated federal court hearing and has prompted outrage from black leaders, some of whom demanded an investigation into whether the February 2006 march was, itself, an event staged by law-enforcement agencies.

The FBI would not comment on what it knew about the involvement of its informant, 39-year-old David Gletty of Orlando, in the neo-Nazi event. In court Wednesday, an FBI agent said the bureau has paid its informant at least $20,000 during the past two years.

"Wow," Gletty said when reached by phone late Wednesday. "It is what it is. You were there in court. I can't really go into any detail now."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-mhate1507feb15,0,4658933.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

[CJCRANE]

1. Problem-Reaction-Solution.

It used to be an old conspiracy theory but we can see it in action these days (the Russians and British, amongst others also do this).

Create a problem, anticipate the public reaction, then offer a pre-planned solution.

[yurbud]

6. like divide and conquer. Supply both sides with weapons, then when they are through killing each

other, steal their shit.

[lligrd]

2. Good Guys Don't Need Hats

cause they are not trying to cover anything up.

[yurbud]

9. If I don't wear a hat, I'll get skin cancer on my bald head.

[leveymg]

3. And sometines it gets even more complicated, as with the 9/11 hijackers

when the operation is being run domestically by an agency which was forbidden by law from running domestic covert operations but did so anyway without FISA warrants relying on the cooperation of several "frendly" foreign intelligence agencies which were hostile to each other and rife with double-agents hostile to us.

To top everything off, you have a White House with close financial and political ties to parties financing the targets of this operation -- and its own, incompatible counter-terrorism plan it seeks to impose -- which orders surveillance shut down in the last stages before the cells plan to attack.

A formula for disaster.

[yurbud]

7. It's hard to figure out where al Qaeda is on that scale, but I'd put it between 4 and 5

they probably have some patsies who think they really are on a jihad like the people the Mossad got caught trying to recruit in Gaza.

[shance]

4. What people don't realize is how much and how infiltrated most Progressive groups are

That is most often why groups don't "get" anywhere and don't progress to the level that they could. Provocateurs are hired to infiltrate, divide, spy on activities, get elected into positions of authority and keep organizations from becoming successful, 'too successful'. If Cointelpro and Eschelon are still working as scheduled, the infiltrations can be seen in many, if not most of our major Progressive organizations.

So, the good news is its not as though we haven't been successful.

The bad news is provocateurs are there, we've all seen them, we've all had to deal with them and we have to be more informed on how to better identify and deal with provocateurs and those who sabatouge the workings in groups. When we realize they are there and they are the ones who gatekeep, attempt to skapegoat and isolate otherwise well liked members of a group, divide members against one another and throw kinks into the mix whenever they can, we can better understand how to confront (either covertly or overtly) their tactics.

[yurbud]

8. has anyone put together identify & confront checklist? I have noticed something similar with union

work.

[wildbilln864]

5. k&r!

Wake up America! :hi:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. The FBI was also up to its neck in the 1993 WTC bombing. eom

[yurbud]

11. that was some crazy shit! I went back and read those stories.

Now I'll have to find them.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. And most of the people in our country don't have a clue about it, but hey, what

else is new???

[goforit]

12. The FBI is so,so,so corrupt!

[yurbud]

13. what is the purpose of increasing neo-nazi visibility?

to use divide and conquer here?

[Disturbed]

15. Those folk in Fla. that were "planning terrorist activites" were

spurred on by an FBI Agent. What a pathetic farce that was.