****OFFICIAL C-SPAN 2, Senate thread*************

[The Witch]

www.c-span.org

[The Witch]

1. Jim Bunning: Republicans have not prevented debate.

[The Witch]

3. We've prevented majority from dictating terms of debate.

[The Witch]

4. Opponents are misguided. Cost of failure is too high.

Breeding ground of terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[liberaldemocrat7]

117. This New Yorker wants to organize some Kentucky progressives.

If you want to work on a volunteer project to get the word out to boycott some companies that give money to the GOP and pressure them into going to Senator McConnell to stop the filibuster and the veto and get some progressive legislation please email me at

[e-mail]

with the subject line: LEGISLATION

thank you.

[malaise]

5. Here Jim

:puke: :puke:

[tridim]

2. 30 seconds in and I'm already sick of the Repukes

I think that's their plan. Make us all sick so we don't watch.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

7. I'm glad he said he was in the Senate. One is never sure if

Ol' Bean Ball Bunning ever has a clue where he is on any given day. I'm pretty sure his staff writes his name and a "Return to Mitch McConnell if found" on the palm of his hand each day.

[JohnnyLib2]

42. Hey, hey, he represents us in KY.

In the worst possible way, every chance he gets. What a pair he and Mitch are.

[MissWaverly]

48. How did he ever get re-elected

was he the rigged machines candidate of choice?

[JohnnyLib2]

84. McConnell's influence, always something to watch.

And some untrue innuendoes against his opponent.

[MissWaverly]

116. well, it's very sad

since even here in Maryland, it was obivious to me that your Sen. Jim Brunning had some
serious health issues that have impacted on his ability to carry out his job. It is
so sad that cronyism trumps the demands for a competent official. You are saying Mitch
McConnell's influence help re-elect Brunner, the same Kentucky senator who is so ardent a defender of George Walker Bush?

[alfredo]

101. Whispering campaigns that his oppenent was gay probably did

the trick. It was the same tactic used by Ernie Fletcher in his first run for governor. Rumors of homosexuality is a hallmark of a McConnell directed campaign.

[MissWaverly]

113. that is so sad

that has been a hallmark of the GOP for a long time, when you can't win with your record,
win with whispers.

[alfredo]

118. In Kentucky people are terrified of gays. They almost have magical

powers over straights. One come hither glance an poof! you're gay.

[MissWaverly]

119. I have no idea why that is

Andy Stephenson, the political activist who believed so fervently in verified paper ballots
was gay, he was a wonderful person and a force for good. I believed that God would never
regret creating Andy, he would only regret that he only made one of him. Andy had a good
heart and was kind to practically everyone he met. No matter how hateful or mean some people were to him, he would never hate, he always said that he never had time for that,
and he didn't, he died of pancreatic cancer at age 43. And so when I hear of people
cringing in fear over "gay" people, I think of Andy, he was the best person that I
ever knew.

Miss Waverly

[alfredo]

120. I miss him too. I conversed with him when I was lobbying our

county during the time they were updating their voting machines.

[MissWaverly]

121. well, the problem with labels is they make people disposable

I am glad that you had a chance to know Andy, he loved this country and fervently believed
in voting reform, I saw nights when he was exhausted and in pain, he would be patiently
answering questions on how to jump in and get involved in fixing your local elections
process.

[alfredo]

122. He was so patient with us.

[MissWaverly]

123. I wish God would have made a million Andys

the world would have been a better place, he is sorely missed, I only hope that when
the history of this administration is written that andy gets a nod as a voting rights
activist that tried to give the vote back to the people.

[alfredo]

124. I need to find one now to help educate a candidate on the issues.

Is there an organization you could recommend?

[MissWaverly]

126. you have a difficult job

http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=486643 and I must admit that
although people diss Common Cause; I find their speakers the most effective, they
have the facts, they are articulate and they drive their point home.

the problem is that I like my Maryland TrueVoteMD.org and I think that your rep may want
to see local based information from Kentucky.

there is also an excellent resource page on DailyKOS regarding voting reform

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Main_Page

National Voting Rights Institute

http://www.nvri.org/

Pew Charitable Trusts
http://www.pewtrusts.com/ideas/index.cfm?issue=53 Although their
electionline.org does little for me.

[alfredo]

127. Thanks, that's a start. The candidate needs more than

info on voting machines, she needs some public speaking help.

[rodeodance]

6. can you EDIT and make this Official Thread #1 in your Subject line please?

[The Witch]

9. done, thanks

:-)

[rodeodance]

14. Thanks, easier to find.

[The Witch]

8. Filibustering this is bloody ridiculous. It's not as if it's binding.

They have no bloody argument because they could always just let the resolution go forward and then offer their owns.

[The Witch]

10. Ben Nelson: I prefer Warner resolution but the alternative is escalation

[rodeodance]

11. I read that McCain will not be in Senate to VOTE--he refused to change

his campaign schedule

[rodeodance]

12. BTW---he MISSSED the 1st vote ALSO!

[The Witch]

13. yups, americablog had that story.

http://www.americablog.com

[rodeodance]

15. yahoo------First REC

[The Witch]

16. Graham Crackers is up: We're not working, we're doing theatrical politics

He's right.

[rodeodance]

47. ah------the fish in the water does not see the water

[rodeodance]

17. 'the Senate is not like the HOUSE" ---whow ho--Pelsoi he got you!

[rodeodance]

18. 'political Theaterical debate" working on Saturday says Lindsey Grahm

[rodeodance]

20. he says it is a low time for him in the Senate!

[madokie]

19. f* lindsey graham

my apologies to you but no other word comes to mind at the moment. had to use the mute button. its not that he thinks he's god or anything I'm sure "it has anything to do with it"

edit to add: in parenthesis

[The Witch]

21. I hate agreeing with Graham Crackers - but both he and dems are right

yes, it's posturing. but it's not going to help anyone for them to delay this vote.

[malaise]

26. He doesn't want to be shut out

Boo hoo:cry: :cry: :cry:

[The Witch]

22. Graham Crackers: "radical left and the bloggers of the left"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[librechik]

33. oooh--we are powerful and scary!

feels good, for once!

Eat it, Senator Graham. All you can do is attack the messenger. You have no plan.

[rodeodance]

41. Nice to know they (he) is aware of the left bloggers.

[kimsterdemster]

23. Lindsey..

Come out of the closet......

[The Witch]

25. ...

:spray:

[tridim]

24. Graham doesn't want the "radical left" fighting the "blogging left"

Whaaaaa?

[The Witch]

28. so now bloggers are moderates? (0.o)

:wtf:

[tridim]

30. Apparently, and the "radical left" wants the troops to come home

That's so radical man!

[dogday]

27. Is Graham dancing?

He is putting on a show...

[The Witch]

29. well, he did say we were doing theatrics today.

He would look great with a barbershop quartet hat & cane :D

[rodeodance]

34. good catch

[rodeodance]

31. Did I hear 'Biblical proportions" (Petaeus letter that Grahm is reading)

[The Witch]

32. NExt up is John Warner

Finally I can say "that's my senator" and be proud of it!

[The Witch]

35. He feels we need to be moving forward.

[rodeodance]

55. well, they keep digging the hole deeper!!

[countingbluecars]

38. No kidding!

He has shining moments now and then.

[fooj]

39. At least Lieberman isn't there to f*ck things up...

I love that the senate is in session on Saturday. :evilgrin:

[dogday]

43. I will second that!!!!

[rodeodance]

44. Is --will Joe be a no show???? today??

[Caoimhe]

89. deleted..wrong place in thread

[The Witch]

45. you anti-semitic pig!! X-D

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[fooj]

69. BWAHAHAHAHA!

:blush:

[rodeodance]

36. Warner will vote for cloture. YEAH (just to move on he says)

[rodeodance]

37. He sees the folly of this statemate.

[rodeodance]

40. I hope that group ??7 of them all feel that way

[The Witch]

46. Pore Judd is up, Pore Judd Gregg is up...

:shoutout to b'way fans:

[rodeodance]

49. boring (so far)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

51. We just got CSPN2...I finally get to watch some of these "speeches" as they happen

!!!

And, this is painfully boring, although it's interesting hearing and watching the tap dance. MKJ

[rodeodance]

60. I am watching via the net

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

83. self delete,

blindly tossing out posts, enjoying thoroughly. MKJ

[The Witch]

54. I think he's hitting puberty, just like Snotty Scotty.

His voice is totally cracking. Poor thing.

[The Witch]

57. supporting our *squeak*troops!*/squeak*

:rofl:

[nickyt]

110. Gordon McRae:

He's lookin' oh so purty and so nice
He looks like he's asleep...

[rodeodance]

50. another Whinner!!

[rodeodance]

52. a little cheeze might help.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

68. For those of you with a better understanding of Congressional protocol than me.

My question will show that you all understand the protocol more than me, but here goes:

In what order do the Senators speak? Thanks, that's it :hi: MKJ

WooHoo C-Span 2, we just got it this week, finally, I don't have to live stream to watch this. :bounce:

[rodeodance]

53. hey---we need some REComendations PLEASE pretty please?

[countingbluecars]

56. Done

[helderheid]

#5

[rodeodance]

63. hey thanks you two.

[The Witch]

73. Hi helderheid!!! :hug:

nice to see you!

I gotta take off for a wedding in a few minutes - will yall take over?

[helderheid]

125. sorry but I left right after I rec'd - I'm on vacation right now!

[rodeodance]

58. k

[rodeodance]

59. kicky poo

[Skidmore]

61. Morning, everyone.

Someone found Judd Gregg's battery pack--hope it wasn't fully charged.

I hope someone in the Senate channels Tim Ryan this morning and points out to these whiners that they've had 4 years to get any dissenting ideas out there and we've heard nary a peep from them other then the Greek chorus they've provide for Little Boots.

I'm going to drop in and out for a while. I'm trying to be good and get my homework done--but I'm listening in on the debate.

[The Witch]

64. he ended with "San Francisco sophistry."

Someone should just say "look, you can boycott Wal-Mart and still have a cousin who works there, it's just that sophisticated and no more! ya moron"

[Skidmore]

72. There's no way he combined those syllables on his own.

I categorically refuse to believe that.

[The Witch]

74. LOL

waiting for my fiance to come running to see what I was laughing at.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

75. LOL, my husband asked me,"What's the deal with San Francisco?"

I told him it was Pelosi's district, and the R's are scared we'll all be San Francisco-ized.

We both agree, we should be lucky, LOL. MKJ

[The Witch]

62. Levin' ... looking more like Vizzini than ever

:evilgrin:

[tridim]

66. Inconceivable!

[Coexist]

76. you keep on using that word...

I don't think it means what you think it means.

[The Witch]

70. Levin: The enemy isn't emboldened by what Congress says!

It's emboldened by what the Iraqi government DOESN'T DO!! :woohoo: :applause:

[rodeodance]

65. Carl Levin is up now (gawd---the last Repug was boring!)

[rodeodance]

78. "we owe our troops our honest assesments"

[rodeodance]

67. says Pres. is getting us in Deeper.

[rodeodance]

71. HA HA---this is NOT a surge-----it is a PLUNDGE!! good one Carl

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

77. His statesmanship and dignity are welcomed. A sharp wit is nice, too.

MKJ

[Skidmore]

82. Kay Bailey Huffingsome up and whining about

siifled minority rights. Doing the flip side of the record she used to play back when that was considered a patriotic duty of those on the right hand side of the aisle.

[Skidmore]

88. huh?...not just a resolution "by a few in the majority.."

what the hell does that mean.

[Adelante]

105. Oooh, I like nt

[Coexist]

79. Kay Bailey Hutchison - ewwww....

here we go.

[rodeodance]

80. Kay Baily Hutchenson coming up next.

[mopinko]

85. unprecedented?

unprecedented for there to be no alternative and no amendments? stfu kay.

[Coexist]

87. Kay - please check the last 6 years for precedents.

ugh.

[Caoimhe]

81. The American Legion should get off their old fart asses

and go fight this war! This guy is an idiot.

I am sure hearing a lot of whining coming from the right side of the aisle today!

[ProSense]

96. Why didn't Sen. Craig mention the AL commander's name? Because the commander

is a liar.

American Legion

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

86. Our troops are "valiantly performing the mission". Now quoting LIEberman!!!!

MKJ

[Coexist]

90. What did that protester say?

did anyone catch that?

[Caoimhe]

92. It sounded like

"The American people voted against this war...." is all I caught

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

95. Excellent, thanks. n/t

MKJ

[dogday]

93. I thought I heard a protester as well

I don't know what they said though...

[proud2BlibKansan]

111. I have a couple friends there

I wonder if it was one of them?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

94. We don't have DVR right now, hopefully someone else caught it. n/t

MKJ

[mopinko]

91. they are making me crazy. "undermining the troooooops"

undermining the war, as the constitution tells us to do. you fucking morons. might want to read it some time.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

97. Feinstein on now. Sounding reasonable after Hutchison. Actually talking about a plan instead of fear

mongering. MKJ

[Caoimhe]

98. Schumer on now....

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

100. Doing well, "for the first time in a while Congress debates foreign policy in Iraq"

MKJ

[rodeodance]

103. Schumer had a good, solid comment. well done

[Caoimhe]

99. "This is JUST the BEGINNING!"

A great speech!!!

[doublethink]

102. Till the next resolution with 'Teeth'

hope that next resolution comes quickly. Peace.

[Coexist]

104. Byrd coming out swinging -

"Madame Chairman, over 3.000 Americans are dead. Dead. DEAD."

[SlowDownFast]

115. The Byrd is the Word.

[Deb]

106. "Madame President, Over three thousand Americans are

Dead! Dead! Dead!" Sen Byrd

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

109. He is a brave, impassioned man. The greatest deliberative body in the world is

the only place in America where Iraq is not discussed. MKJ

[in_cog_ni_to]

107. Has anyone heard if the Dems have enough votes to get this passed?

Up now...Senator Byrd!

[proud2BlibKansan]

112. MSNBC said no

[rodeodance]

108. thread 2 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x235042

[GenDem]

114. Senator Kennedy kicking ass within a 60 second time frame