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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 02:41 PM
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Hartford-Courant BURNS Lieberman (Your Guess Is As Good As Ours-Conn.)
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 02:47 PM by Bluebear
.....Also, as Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Your Guess Is As Good As Ours-Conn., explained, it would cripple the morale of American troops if they thought they were ever going to come home. The only way to show that we are 100 percent behind our men and women in uniform is to make it plain that we have no foreseeable end in sight and that, for all we know, they will be playing with their grandchildren in Najaf 30 years from now.

Lieberman, thus, supports the concept of a binding quagmire. A nonbinding quagmire, he would argue, is barely worthy of the name, because you can get out of it whenever you want to. A binding quagmire, from which there is no obvious exit, brings moral clarity and a sense of common purpose.

Lieberman went on to say:

"Sen. McCain and I have introduced another resolution that is much better and supports the troops. Sen. McCain and I will push forward on that resolution, and then we will go for a walk. And then Sen. McCain and I will come back here and craft some other bipartisan legislation to make America great. And then Sen. McCain and I may have a light dinner and go see that new Diane Keaton movie. Sen. McCain likes me, and I am his best friend ever in this august body. Henceforth, I would like the secretary of the Senate to record my political affiliation as DBNDR - Democrat But Nonbindingly Dating Republicans."

My new theory about Lieberman is that the only reason he let President Bush kiss him was to make John McCain jealous.....

http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-colin0218.artfeb18,0,1386625.column?coll=hc-utility-local
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 02:46 PM
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1. The Sad part is a lot of Dems voted for him
:cry:

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:17 PM
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3. No, what's sad is that nearly every Republican in the state did...
And even with that evidence in hand, many Democrats walked into the voting booth and yanked his lever anyway!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:16 PM
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2. Then why did the Courant ENDORSE Lieberman?
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 03:17 PM by Steve_DeShazer
And then subsequently scrub their editorial endorsement from their website?

:grr:

edit to add scrubbed link: http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-senate-endorse,0,1712552.story?coll=hc-big-headlines-breaking
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:21 PM
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4. Did they endorse him in the primary or the general?
The New Haven Register endorsed him in both and just now are starting to see the error of their ways
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:27 PM
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5. Both actually
:grr:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:03 PM
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8. people who "just now see the error of their ways"
make me sick. As if Lieberman's dishonesty and self-aggrandizement and war-mongering and Republican supporting rhetoric have not been blindingly obvious for years. What the fu$% is their excuse, they only recently pulled their head out of their a$$ for a breath or something, maybe their Punxatawney Phil once a year look at the world? "Gee, I never noticed that bright object in the sky before, and now I see that Lieberman and Bush are a$$holes too." If you live in Connecticut and run a newspaper you should know more than a janitor from Kansas, and if they didn't they could have fu$%ing read my journal.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:34 PM
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9. .
What hfojvt said.

:thumbsup:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:41 PM
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11. The writer is Colin McEnroe
who was against Lieberman for a while now and gave a lot of time to Lamont on his show. It was actually on McEnroe's radio show where Lieberman had a hissy fit right after Lamont announced his candidacy and gave the Lamont campaign some early momentum. McEnroe had merely stated on his show that he was going to give Lamont a look to see what he was all about, and Lieberman called up all indignant and offended that McEnroe would even do something like that The guy literally had a hissy fit on the air, like how dare McEnroe even consider somebody else.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:50 PM
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14. Thank you for that information
Every state has it's own weird politics, and it takes someone connected to explain it to people like me 3000 miles away in this strange and wonderful place we call America.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 07:53 PM
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15. And, for the first few months
McEnroe's radio show was a very effective platform for Lamont getting his message out... and, several months before Lamont entered the race, it was on McEnroe's show that Lowell Weicker (the former liberal Republic senator from CT who lost to Lieberman in 1988 when Lieberman ran to his right) announced he might consider jumping into the Senate race as an independent if no viable anti-war candidate stepped forward.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:00 PM
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16. I appreciate your insight regarding Connecticut politics
That's very interesting.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:21 PM
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20. Because they've been total whimps on those things for years
Endorsed Rowland. Endorsed Bush (twice!). Endorsed their boy Joe.

Then they try to backtrack by occasionally taking their endorsed candidates to task. Just to attempt to look like they're not taking sides.

Especially since the Tribune took over the Courant, it's been downhill on a steep grade there.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:15 PM
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6. "My new theory about Lieberman is that the only reason he let ,.."
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 04:15 PM by bahrbearian
"My new theory about Lieberman is that the only reason he let President Bush kiss him was to make John McCain jealous." I love that one.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:52 PM
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7. Meee too. nt
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:37 PM
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10. Poor Georgie, used again.
The Connecticut Canoodler strikes again... *snicker*

:hi:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:42 PM
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12. good job Conn.
You and the rest of the country are stuck with Joe for the next six years
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:44 PM
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13. Somebody on DailyKos really killed Lieberman yesterday, too
Basically said that because of Lieberman's Orthodox Jewish beliefs, he did not campaign for president in 2000 on Saturdays in observation of the Sabbath, and has often missed the CT state Democratic convention for the same reason... yet, it was important enough for him to go to the Senate on that same Sabbath to vote against cloture on the filibuster so the non-binding resolution filibuster would not be broken.

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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:15 PM
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18. With hypocrite credentials like that he is sure to turn Republican.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:24 PM
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21. You know, I didn't even catch that. I was sure he would miss that
vote, for just that reason. (And his usual habit of sticking to his religious traditions was one of the very few things I could find to respect about him.) Now I see he's not even genuine about that.

ANYTHING for war, it seems.

Everytime I think I couldn't possibly think less of him, he surprises me.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:48 AM
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26. Here is the article on Kos...
Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign for President on the Sabbath. Fine, I have absolutely no problem with that, and I respect anyone who abides by what they believe are the obligations of their religious faith. But isn't it revealing that Joe Lieberman wouldn't campaign to win the presidency on the Sabbath, but a few minutes ago--remember, it is the Sabbath--Lieberman voted against cloture in the Senate and thus against permitting a vote on a resolution repudiating the President's plan for a military surge in Baghdad, a strategy which is supported by almost nobody except a few neocon and Republican dead-enders?.

Oh well, I guess one might say that sooner or later he was going to have to vote to say he believes in George Bush and Dick Cheney's war. When it comes to affirming your support for more death and destruction and damage to our national security, if not now, when?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/17/141032/863
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:29 PM
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25. I hadn't even thought of that. Even less integrity than I imagined.
Completely sickening.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:11 PM
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17. Only five years and eleven months of Holy Joe left...
:-(

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:26 PM
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22. I'm being a little more optimistic
We need a few more Dem Senators next time. Then Holy Joe becomes wholly inconsequential. And he can stomp his little feet and make his little sanctimonious speeches, and no one will be listening.

Meantime, CT is in the same position it has been in since he was originally put into office -- with one senator. Thankfully, Chris Dodd usually does a pretty good job.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:19 PM
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19. Colin is fabulous, and so funny
And he has had Lieberman's number for years.

His blog is worth the trip:

http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit/

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:33 PM
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23. Is it possible to do a recall and vote out a sitting Senator in CT?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:21 AM
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27. Unfortunately, no.
All we can do is our best to insure that in 2008 there are several more Dem senators sitting. In which case, Lieberman's blackmail loses its power, and he becomes as inconsequential as he should be.

I strongly doubt he'd be re-elected after this term. I'm hearing lots of buyer's regret from the people foolish enough to support him last time.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:23 PM
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24. After the '08 election, Joe can be cut off at the knees. We will win so big that we won't NEED
to kiss his ass anymore. He can be removed from his committee chair and relegated to the back room...HELL, he can switch parties for all I care...AFTER the '08 election.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:22 AM
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28. Yup, and unfortunately, until then, the Dems have to live with his blackmail nt
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 12:22 PM
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29. When McCain Dies, Lieberman Wants
...to be buried right there in the same coffin with him.


(With a nod to W.S. Burroughs.)
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