Take me out to the Ballgame

[NightWatcher]

ESPN is reporting that up to 80 players will be named in the Mitchell Report on Steroid usage within the MLB, which will be released at 2PM EST. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3152573

Among those names starting to leak out Roger Clemens. Other "Prominent Yankees" are reported to be on the list.





Stay tuned for updates.

[IndianaJones]

1. nice little witch hunt they got going on. nt.

[Botany]

2. I hope Jim Thome is not on the list

[cboy4]

3. I look forward to apology letters from all of the Barry

Bonds haters who have taken all of their anger out on him, while cheering on their own steroid-using star player with a wink and a nod.

Oh the hypocrisy.

[IndianaJones]

4. this report will be a joke. one man is judge and jury? nt.

[NightWatcher]

6. Actually Senator Mitchell is acting like Fitzgerald...as an independent investigator

He didnt just pick names out of a hat.

[IndianaJones]

8. Have you heard the basis for the accusations he has made? the flimsy evidence?

it is a joke.

[Buzz Clik]

18. The report is not officially released. You'll need to give us some links.

[IndianaJones]

20. ESPN radio. They talk about sports. nt.

[Buzz Clik]

26. Really, Sherlock? ESPN talks about sports? Golly.

I watched a report on ESPN this morning. Nothing was mentioned of the process of gathering information. Not a word.

They did mention that the report is 400 pages long and hundreds of interviewers.

If you have information that you can stand behind, I'd love to see it.

[IndianaJones]

31. You watched a report that said the report is coming out? Try listening to Buster Olney...

of course, he only talks to the agents and players that were targets of the witch hunt.

[cboy4]

7. And here's how the results were tabulated.

[Forkboy]

47. But not everyone who thinks Bonds is guilty of steroid use cheered others who used them.

When Canseco played in Boston me and my friends railed on him mercilessly. One of roommate used steroids at the time, so it was something we saw firsthand. We knew Jose was juiced and we complained it about way back then. If today's report comes back and Ortiz' name is on it I'll say can his ass. How's that for a wink and a nod? :shrug:

I was harder on McGuire than I've ever been on Bonds. You seem to want to reduce this to the World vs. Barry Bonds, but there are a lot of fans out there who have been consistent in their complaints about the use of steroids all along. It doesn't matter to me who uses them, they are ALL wrong. The reason Bonds is getting the attention the most is because he's the game's marquee player, the biggest name in the game, like the frontrunner in a campaign taking the most heat. It's not the person, it's the position they're in. McGuire managed to duck out of the game just in time to avoid the real heat or I suspect you'd see the same feelings towards him that you see now towards Bonds. Bonds is still in the game and he broke one of the biggest records in sports. People want to feel that was done honestly, and whether you like it or not there is a question about Bonds and steroids, and I think fans of the game deserve to know the truth, whether it's innocent or guilty.

So for a lot of us there's been no hypocrisy at all, and if Bonds is found guilty will you then show the same consistency or become what you're complaining about here?

[Iggo]

56. That makes no sense.

I'll still hate Barry Bonds. Why should I apologize?

[Buzz Clik]

5. Please, God. Let my favorite steroid-user apologist say this again:

"Could you hit 700 home runs or throw a 100 mph fast ball if you used steroids? It ain't the steroids."

Please, please, please!!!

[lame54]

14. Then why do they take them?

[Buzz Clik]

16. (hells bells! That's pretty obvious.) The question is: how could anyone defend them?

[napi21]

9. Anybody who didn't know this was going on for a long time has

been ignoring reality! I'm not a baseball fan, and only ever pay attention to the last inning or so of a really close game of 2 teams, and even I knew this! I honestly think it would have been easier if they would have published a list of players who WEREN'T "enhancing".

[malaise]

21. I think anyone who didn't know this should watch

HBOs classic Fields of Fire. That was about sport in the 60s and 70s and the syringes were in the NFL locker rooms before games.

[MikeNearMcChord]

10. #1 on the list should be Bud selig and the rest of the owners

They enabled the act to fill the stands after the disastrous strike of '94. Also the sports media isn't exactly clean also.

[IndianaJones]

11. it doesn't really bother the fans that much either. nt.

[Buzz Clik]

17. It bothers a lot of fans a whole lot.

[IndianaJones]

19. yeah...so much theres record attendance every year. lol. nt.

[Buzz Clik]

24. Your feeling is that fans come because of the steriods? You're dead wrong.

They come despite its wide use. Bonds is despised in every city but San Francisco.

It's pretty funny that you're somehow defending steroid/hormone use considering it breaks federal laws, it's against the rules of baseball, and it, quite frankly, it's cheating. It's hard to consider any player guilty of all this as anything but shit.

[IndianaJones]

27. yeah...they come despite it bothering them so much.

Its pretty obvious you despise Bonds...and I'm sure its because he may have used performance enhancing drugs.

[Buzz Clik]

28. I despise his lying and his cheating. Nothing more.

Are you going to play the race card AGAIN?

If so, I'll take that as your concession speech.

[IndianaJones]

32. what race card? I'm sure that it concerns you greatly, despite supporting baseball...

while performance enhancing drugs were allowed...for decades. Its Bonds that brought it all down for you.

[Buzz Clik]

35. Well, pal, you just keep on supporting your doped up heroes.

I'll pass on these assholes.

I'm looking forward to Bonds paying the legal price for lying, and I'm looking forward to baseball players (and ALL other athletes) playing the hand they were dealt rather than trying to gain a chemical advantage.

[IndianaJones]

38. if you went to the ballpark in the last 30 years, you're supporting my doped up heroes too. nt.

[Buzz Clik]

39. Huge difference: I condemn the use of performance enhancement drugs. You don't.

[IndianaJones]

41. you condemn it by putting money in their pockets and, if "prominent Yankees"

are on the list, putting some more World Series trophies in our trophy case.

Thanks for the biting condemnation.

[Buzz Clik]

42. Nice try, but your logic is absent.

You declared that my attendance in past three decades would indicate a support of steroid use. And, I have been to many baseball parks in the past 30 years. However, I have not been to a single game since Bonds, McGwire, et al were singled out. Not one.

Where's my support now, Ace?

Face it. You're in this alone, and you're looking pretty sleazy.

[IndianaJones]

43. oh...you're just against steroids...not other perfomance enhancing drugs banned at the same time...

convenient that is.

[Johonny]

46. Your right people don't care

Steroids is something to complain about, not something that stops people from watching and spending on the sport. Frankly the fact they focused on baseball is a little annoying when you consider that football very likely has a higher rate of abuse. Who ever talks about all the Raiders caught on the Balco list. All you hear about is Barry Bonds.

[NightWatcher]

13. from the report....

"lawyers told ESPN that the report assigns blame for the rise of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball "from top to bottom," and recommends that MLB and the union agree to outsource their drug testing program to an independent agency."

It IS prevalent from the top to the bottom and unless the union and the owners decide to fix the entire system, it will continue to be broken. People just like watching the homeruns fly out of the park and 95mph fastballs too much to change.

If you arent going to fix it, embrace it. I want to see 700 foot homeruns and a 150mph fastball.....

[Marrah_G]

12. Sad, sad day

I am hoping none of my Sox are on the list, but that is probably just wishful thinking.

This is a sad day for baseball fans everywhere.

[IndianaJones]

15. lol...Mitchell is part of the Sox organization. nt.

[cboy4]

25. .....

:spray:

[IndianaJones]

33. remember that steroids revelation on the Indians pitcher during the ALCS?

Interesting timing, huh?

[cboy4]

34. You mean the team the Red Sox played?

Nope don't know a thing about it.

[IndianaJones]

37. "prominent Yankees"? WTF? nt.

[AllieB]

23. I just hope Papi's not on the list

I'm not much of a sports fan, but I really like Papi. Seems like a nice guy.

[Patsy Stone]

22. Well, at least the media won't be paying attention to the Dem debate.

There goes any coverage unless there's a smackdown.

[fishnfla]

40. Wall-to-wall baseball for a week

the campaigns should just take a break and work on strategery

[Patsy Stone]

52. Yep

unless Hillary actually holds Obama down and makes him do a line of coke, they can all just read the phone book up there and see the same results.

[BadgerLaw2010]

29. Well, that answers how Clemens hung around so long. Next please.

And Bonds looks like a cyborg in that picture.

[Buzz Clik]

36. But Bonds is clean, CLEAN, I tell you.

It's only natural for feet to grow three shoe sizes after the age of 35. Or your head to expand several sizes.

You're just jealous of him because he has the disposition of a caged bear and a personality normally associated with people like Ted Kaczynski.

[shain from kane]

30. Going to the ball park is like going to skid row and watching the drunks play kick the can.

[PufPuf23]

44. Barry Bonds is a scapegoat

Major league baseball management is complicit and always has been.

This is just another aspect of the social climate to demonize and degrade.

Not much different from Monica meets Bill Clinton and oh the horrors.

[NightWatcher]

45. Wow this list is bad. it's starting to leak out now

from WNBC on MSNBC


Damon, Pettite, Garciaparra, Giambi....


This is going to be a bad day for the sport

[alcibiades_mystery]

49. Varitek

Ouch.

Notice no A-rod. Repeat: No A-Rod.

Interesting, that.

STEROID RAGE:



:rofl:

[IndianaJones]

54. a token Red Sox player. nt.

[alcibiades_mystery]

57. The team captain?

:rofl:

[IndianaJones]

58. a token captainship for a token player. I'm surprised Wade Boggs isn't on the list. Or the Babe. nt

[BadgerLaw2010]

59. IIRC, Nomar played for a certain team in Boston during the years in question.

Yankees should sack up and take it like men.

[IndianaJones]

60. rumor is that some names are being held back pending resolution on the Red Sox opponents...

in next years postseason.

[Virginia Dare]

61. Side note, isn't he married to Mia Hamm?...n/t

[IndianaJones]

53. lots of Yankees named in the Red Sox report. nt.

[HuffleClaw]

48. i couldn't care less about this

they are PROFESSIONAL athletes, not Olympians. if their careers depend on doping, so be it. they aren't hurting anyone but themselves. i'd be much happier if the same attention was paid to the fashion industry and its continued exploitation of young women in the world of modeling and how their health is threatened by pressure to stay unhealthily slim. assorted diet drugs and eating disorders are a plague in that high pressure industry.

[Annces]

50. People will do anything to be #1 n/t

[NightWatcher]

51. Report to be available shortly after 2PM on MLB.com

MLB.com will provide complete coverage of former Sen. George Mitchell's report on performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball, beginning with live video of his 2 p.m. ET news conference. The report itself will be available for download shortly after its release.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/news/mitchell/coverage.jsp

[Joe Fields]

55. Steroid usage is so rampant, I'd bet there are a few names on that list

of players we would never have suspected.

[AllieB]

62. No Current Members of the Red Sox in Report

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2007/12/cursory_search.html

I wonder if people heard the Varitek rumor on WFAN. :shrug: