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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:01 PM
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John Dean: ACLU Lawsuit may force Bush Administration's hand on CIA torture tapes
The Investigations of the Destruction of CIA Torture Tapes: How An ACLU Lawsuit Might Force the Bush Administration To Reveal What Actually Happened

By John Dean
December 14, 2007


By my count, there appear to be no less than ten preliminary investigations underway, following the revelation that the CIA destroyed at least two sets of videotapes (containing hundreds of hours of footage) of "advanced interrogation" techniques being employed in terrorism investigations. In fact, every branch of government is now involved.
Within the Executive Branch, according to news reports, the CIA's General Counsel and Inspector General are investigating. The Department of Justice is investigating. On Capitol Hill, both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees are investigating. In addition, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is inquiring as to whether the Federal Records Act has been violated. And Senator Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, has made preliminary inquiries as well.

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There are three court orders that may have been violated, but one in particular strikes me as a very serious problem for the CIA. ..... the situation in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, as a result of Freedom of Information Act requests by the American Civil Liberties Union, could well force the Bush Administration's hand. An order holding the CIA in contempt of court might get the Administration's attention...... When word of mistreatment of detainees surfaced, the ACLU filed a Freedom of Information Act request targeting the CIA and others on October 7, 2003 and May 25, 2004, seeking records concerning the treatment of all detainees apprehended after September 11, 2001 and held in U.S. custody abroad. This, of course, would mean not only in Guantanamo but in the secret prisons in Eastern Europe operated by the CIA.
Not surprisingly, the government stiffed the request, so the ACLU filed a lawsuit in June 2004 in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York. The case ended up in the courtroom of Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein. On September 15, 2004, Judge Hellerstein ordered the CIA and other government departments to "produce or identify" all responsive documents by October 15, 2004.

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It is well- and long-established law that a court order of this nature requires that the party preserve all information possessed that is responsive to the request. Thus, the CIA was obligated to preserve the tapes even if they were hell-bent on fighting in court to deny them to the ACLU. And as this litigation proceeded, Judge Hellerstein's later orders only served to reinforce that obligation, as a string of precedents makes clear.

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As I have written before, judges appointed by Republican presidents tend to throw cases that might embarrass Republican presidents out of their court, as quickly as they can figure out how to do so. Federal judges appointed by Democratic presidents, fortunately, do not tend to cower when either Republican or Democratic presidents are involved. A judge ends up with a case like this through a random selection procedure; in this case, the CIA happened to draw a Judge it cannot intimidate, which makes it interesting.
Judge Hellerstein was appointed to the federal bench by President Bill Clinton in 1998. An editor of the Columbia Law Review during his law school years, he started his legal career in the Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps of the Army in 1959-1960. An experienced litigator with a prestigious New York City law firm, he is a highly-respected judge. He works hard, is fair, and is savvy.

He is also a nightmare for the CIA in a case like this, because on June 3, 2005 he ordered the release of four videos from Abu Ghraib, along with dozens of photographs - not withstanding an effort of the government to suppress this material from ever becoming public.
Judge Hellerstein appears to have no tolerance for torture. Unlike his former colleague and now-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, who still is not clear that waterboarding is torture, one does not have the sense that Judge Hellerstein suffers from such confusion. While Judge Hellerstein is going to appropriately protect the sources and methods of the CIA, if any judge is going to get to the bottom of this destruction of these records quickly, this is the judge.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:47 PM
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1. The neocons thought they could corrupt enough of our system of government
to take complete control, but they overestimated the power of corruption, and underestimated the decency and strength and principles of the people they've tried to conquer: Americans.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:54 AM
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3. They had complete control for four years! They underestimated the voters.
And, that in the face of an all-powerful propaganda machine that seems able to sell torture and waterboarding as wonderful in a few days.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:24 PM
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2. I Support the ACLU and hold them tightly
Because Freedom can't defend itself, what ever the issue, whether I agree with it or not, their there to defend our expression, not to endorse the issues, but to defend the highest value we can contribute to the evolution of free thought, our worldly reality as we have it today, as for the issues at hand? For the people to decide. Got to love them


ACLU :yourock:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 07:15 PM
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4. visibility kick = will it float? That depends on YOU!
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