Those dirty sons of Bush's: A DU genealogy project thread

[bobthedrummer]

I'm going to start this thread and check again Monday.

There are a group of DUer's that use terms and symbolic acronyms to describe the Bush family regularly in terms of a criminal dynasty or evil empire.

I would like to see what other DUer's that have research skills and tech can come up with in this thread. I encourage newer members to participate.

Using the genealogical approach, the history and pattern of crime of the sons of Bush's (and their spouses) becomes very obvious.

Those DUer that have consistently publicized these facts are always welcome to contribute-I'd like to see what others can come up with over the weekend-the facts should be used as indictments, the facts should be sent to officials and committees and the facts SHOULD BE ACTED ON.

So I'll link a few resource threads below and check back Monday. This thread needs your input-I'm merely starting it.

Genealogy resource threads on the sons of Bush's

Bush family tree from about.com
http://genealogy.about.com/od/presidents/p/george_bush.htm

Source Watch Bush Family Genealogy
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_Family_Genealogy

The Bush Crime Family Tree from Project for an Old American Century
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bushco/bush_crime_family.htm

Alfred Mendes outline of Bush family and friends (via spectrezine.org)
"Bush-Law in the Land of Mannon"
http://www.spectrezine.org/resist/bush.htm

So it begins, just DU it over the weekend. See you Monday and we should have lots of interesting facts on the dirty sons of Bush's from many generations.

[Donnachaidh]

1. kicking to keep this up where folks can see it.

Interesting project. :bounce:

[bobthedrummer]

2. Thanks Donnachaidh-I'm going offline now.

[balantz]

3. Kicking

Good study

[annabanana]

4. kick. . . . n/t

[Bitwit1234]

5. We also have a discussion group for this type of thing.

What difference does it make if people post bush's pedigree. If they dont' have access to the stuff you want you won't get it.

Where is his guard records. The NARA shredded them. Texas guard shredded them. He had a Civil Law suit filed against him for sexual harrassment and stalking. You could access it from online, but the state of Texas against regulations flushed it from the system. I bet if you had the number you could find DWI etc against other politicans.

And all the information about Prescott Bush having his bank consficated will also be flushed. You are not going to find that. History Channel had a story about the whole thing where he was part and parcel of trying to overthrow the govenment of FDR. Now they tell me they no longer have the video. I wanted to purchase it. And you can't find the video about George HW Bush who had the child sex ring that was allowed to tour the white house. That info is all gone.

And I will be that there is absolutely nothing left in the white house present day about any negative thing bush has done, his and cheney's records have been illegally shredded.

What do you want us to post.

[sam sarrha]

7. we need to get copy's of existing copies, share and distribute them

[sam sarrha]

6. HERE IS THE bU$H CRIME FAMILY crony tree..... >Link>>

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushmillions.html

[DrDebug]

8. Scottish royal genealogy of George W. Bush

Most people have heard that George W. Bush is related to Queen Elizabeth, however that slightly misses the root. Both George W. Bush and Queen Elizabeth are descendents from King William the Lion of Scotland. This is very important king because the Knights Templars had taken refuge in Scotland. This gynealogy is the blood line of the Rosary Order which allowed the Bushes to qualify for Skull and Bones membership. Also it explains the frequent 'Prescott's, because the Obadiah branch isn't a wealthy or important branch. The Prescotts is important lineage. Just like George Herbert Walker was equally important which resulted in naming two sons: George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush respectively.

King William the Lion of Scotland (1143-1214)
http://www.rampantscotland.com/famous/blfamwilliamlion.htm

Isabel of Scotland married Robert de Ros

Robert de Ros, Magna Charta, Lord successful at international banking. Created the first modern covert intelligence organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Ros

Sir William de Ros and Lucy de Ros
Lucy de Ros married Robert Plumpton, Knight. Two children Sir William Plumpton and Alice Plumpton. Established Order of the Rose and Cross
http://www.rosicrucian-order.com/

Alice Plumpton, Baron married Sir John Boteler. Daughter Alice Boteler
Descended of William I "The Conqueror" King of England

Alice Boteler married John Gerard. Had a child Constance Gerard

Constance Gerard married Alexander Standish

Ralph Standish married Margaret Radcliffe

Alexander Standish, Knight married Sybil de Bold

Ralph Standish married Alice Haryngton

Roger Standish married ... daughter Alice Standish

Alice (also Elizabeth) Standish married James Prescott

Jonathan Prescott married Rebecca Bulkeley

Abel Prescott married Abigail Brigham

Lucy Prescott married Jonathan Fay

Samuel Prescott Phillips Fay married Harriet Howard

Samuel Howard Fay married Susan Shellman

Harriet Eleanor Fay married Rev. James Smith Bush son of Obadiah Newcomb Bush.

Samuel Prescott Bush married Flora Sheldon. Child Prescott Bush

Prescott Bush

George H.W. Bush

George W. Bush

According to LDS the Scottish Royal tree is a bloodline of Charlemagne, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, the Kings of the Franks, the Kings of Sicambri, Darda (Dardanus) and finally end up at Tros, the King of Troy and the Darda (Dardanus), the King of Dardania. In Greek mythology, Dardanus ("burner up") was a son of Zeus by Electra, daughter of Atlas, and founder of the city of Dardania on Mount Ida in the Troad.

http://rootie.geeknet.com/hudson3.html

[loudsue]

9. That's quite a pedigree....

You'd never guess it would have produced a chimp when all was said and done. :shrug:

[ClintonTyree]

23. A imagine a lot of inbreeding......

occurred within those families, which could explain GWB's emergence from the shallow end of the gene pool.

[verges]

25. Reverse evolution?

Reverse evolution?

[ginnyinWI]

28. Devolution. n/t

[clovis29]

10. Very interesting....

I don't see how it links with what we want, here, but it certainly has a lot of interesting stuff in it. I mean, Electra?? ;)

[Maine-ah]

17. I would just like to point out,

that if you are of European descent, then you most likely are in the family tree of Charlemagne. The probability is very high. I traced my husbands family back that far, so not only are we related to the Bush's, we're related to Bab's too. We're all related somewhere.

Ever hear about that website that was trying to prove the whole world was related somewhere? I wish I could remember their name. Gonna go google see if I can find it, because it was rather interesting.

[knitter4democracy]

18. My mom's family goes back to before King Duncan.

You don't see any of us with money or power. Duncan was killed by Macbeth (says so on the family tree, even), and the root from which Duncan's family came is the same root as my mom's family. No money, no power, no influence.

[Yavapai]

31. That would mean that he is related to king George III,

maybe that explains a lot??? :crazy:

Pretty sure that he is the result of anal sex between George H.W. Bush and Barbara, which explains a lot more. :hurts:

[MisterP]

35. not Stephen of England? n/t

[santamargarita]

11. Kicking Here - Let's kick them out of the country

The Bush fascists made their money from the Gold Teeth of Holocaust Jews!

[JDPriestly]

14. Welcome to DU

[hootinholler]

32. Welcome to DU! If you have evidence of that assertion...

I'd love to see it. Yes, Prescott was a banker to the Nazis, I mean specifically the gold teeth thing. Nail that down incontrovertibly and you have something.

-Hoot

[bobthedrummer]

37. Fwiw-research the works of Russ Bellant, John Loftus, Linda Minor, White Rose Society

then there are a couple of links from some others-the purpose of this thread is to encourage DUers to delve into the sons of Bush's-all of them
as you acknowledged part of the Bush family wealth was derived from the Third Reich, which is a fact, and that does include everything taken from the victims...

"Heir to the Holocaust" by Toby Rogers
http://clamormagazine.org/issues/14/feature3.php

democrats.com Prescott Bush archive
http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Prescott%20Bush

"W Bush Fulfills His Grandfather Prescott's Dream" (started by Octafish 7-29-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1468311

[fed-up]

12. kick/rec'd and bookmarked for future reference- thanks nt

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

13. I hope no one ever tries to go back into my geneology and

criminal history of my family. I don't want to know.

I just do the best I can.

[fascisthunter]

24. You aren't a President acting Like a Dictator so I DOubt It

Unless you are screwing America and it's people, I wouldn't worry about it. Bush is open season.

[hfojvt]

15. something on his great grandfather

which I found by googling "Bush steel Ohio" which I found to be a very ironic google search. I only find two children of this family Prescott and James and I cannot find James in the 1930 census, but I also could not find the family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses.

http://www.scripophily.net/bucsteelcasc1.html

[benld74]

16. Sickens my stomach just to think about it

[leveymg]

19. KNR 4 BTD! ;-)

[MsMagnificent]

20. Interesting idea

can't wait to see the results!

[donsu]

21. this is important - hope it continues until book form with footnotes

and/or evidence in trials.

excellent idea bobthedrummer

gold star

[mentalsolstice]

22. Wow, a family tree that has devolved back to the missing link! nt

[Christa]

26. K & R nt

[MrMickeysMom]

27. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a. "The Great Beast 666" - father of Barbara Bush? You decide!

Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.

The story may seem difficult to believe at first, until one learns more about the social inter-relations that tied together these unlikely parties. Specifically, we must focus on a fascinating woman named Pauline Pierce, born Pauline Robinson -- whose third child was named Barbara.

Evil Seed Linky: http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html

[Cybergata]

29. You'd be surprised how many people with European . . .

ancestry share common ancestors with both Chenney and Bush. Someone mentioned Charlemagne in this thread. It is a mathematically impossibility for people of European descent not to be a descendant of Charlemagne. He had many wifes & lovers, plus he probably raped his way across European. Don't forget the "right of the first knight."

My values and beliefs are so diametrically opposed to those of Bush and Chenny, but my own genealogical research shows that I share ancestors with both of them. I wouldn't be surprised if most of us with English ancestry can't say the same thing.

The Royal We at http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200205/olson

Everyone is Descended From Charlemagne at http://www.rkwest.com/personal/mycousins/?page_id=10

Ancestry and Mathematics at http://www.rkwest.com/personal/mycousins/?page_id=9

[Snarkturian Clone]

30. Don't forget

[bobthedrummer]

33. Thanks to everyone that posted so far-what I am interested in are what

other DUer's that have kept an eye on the many criminal enterprises of all these sons of Bush's KNOW.

From Poppy (Iran Contra, Saudi ties, Carlyle Group, secrecy classifications used to conceal crimes, etc) and his little brother William Henry Trotter "Bucky" Bush (made a real mess in Missouri, financial scams, etc) Neil Mallon Bush (Silverado S&L, drugs etc) John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (massive health insurance fraud, voter disenfranchisement, Ignite! scam, etc), the Decider...

The spouses and social networks of the sons of Bush's could also be informative.

I've posted and linked to much of what was known since 2001-I'm looking for what others have, I'm looking to learn something new or reexamine in the light of new information about the dirty sons of Bush's.

So, who else has something to share?

[donkeyotay]

34. Thank god, it's not just me. This thread is bizarre.

I've been reviewing "American Dynasty" by Kevin Phillips, which is a treasure trove of happy happenstances of the BFEE profiting off the American people.

I'm particularly interested in Jeb's current role in guiding Florida's investments, and making big bucks on Tenet's board which connects him to the whole GPO-medicare scandal. I figure anywhere there are billions to be embezzled, the crime family can't be far off. Like remember when bush was saying Katrina-who? and as soon as congress talked of appropriating $60 Billion suddenly cheney was all ears. Anyway, I digress.

I'm reading American Dynasty and on page 134 we have:

As for Jeb Bush, the limitations of his ethical framework became clear in the late 1980s when two of his principal Miami business associates were indicted. Camilo Padreda pleaded guilty to defrauding the Department of Housing and Urban Development of millions of dollars during the 1980s. When agents of the Department of Health and Human Services determined that Miguel Recarey had been defrauding Medicare through overcharging, false invoicing, and embezzlement, the onetime head of International Medical Centers fled to Venezuela.<end>

I think this medicare fraud thing involves so much money that it's been an irresistible target. This whole thing about the GPOs - it provides a blackbox for costs and profits similar to what hedgefunds and private equity groups have done for finance in general.

Then there's the angle with the Gonzales Justice Department, with the firing of the 3 US attorneys, and the unfortunate deaths of 2 others. Even Carol Lam's timely and profitable promotion can be associated with the issue of medicare fraud. I don't have it pieced together, but it certainly seems like an interesting area of inquiry.

[Cerridwen]

36. Kick back to front page n/t

[bobthedrummer]

38. k