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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:18 PM
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Edwards is NOT done.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 PM
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1. I love you ....
But Im not sure this needed it's own thread .....

Maybe ....
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:02 PM
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123. Oh no!
You had to put a picture of Billy Richardson to make me feel guilty. He's my homeboy, but hasn't reached me like Edwards has. I haven't seen him walking through the heartland of America like Edwards has. He hasn't been working with ACORN like Edwards has, although Richardson would make a really fine Secretary of State. In fact who ever wins would be very smart to make Billy their secretary of state. The man just has the experience and he just a way of working well with leaders in places like the middle east.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:50 PM
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155. I know
I love them both.

And Obama is a good guy too.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:38 PM
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162. I guess over 150 posts proved me wrong .....
I love Edwards ..... and I love Obama too .....

I will accept Clinton, if necessary ....

They're all good ....
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 PM
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2. the corporations still shake in fear.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:34 AM
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74. oh, I bet they are.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 PM
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3. John did GREAT tonight. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:21 PM
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4. He beat Hillary with a honorable 2nd place being outspent 6-1
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:26 PM
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13. I'm in awe of the Edwardes.
:toast:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:42 PM
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22. We need a FDR to take on the problems and she is a good
Eleanor. I have finally decided my candidate.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:03 AM
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39. I feel the same way.
They impress and inspire.
:kick:
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:37 AM
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91. Me too
What a strong pair they are! They make me proud to be a Democrat.

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM
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5. I don't believe many Dems think he is.
A close second is not the end. He can still pick up SC and do well in NH. The anti-corporatist message rings loudly in the ears of old-school Dems and the independents who make up so much of today's electorate. I believe his chances are as good as ever.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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15. Last I heard Edwards was polling
3rd (at 12%) behind Hillary (first) and Obama (second) in South Carolina. I'm told it's the African-American vote that is the big swing there.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:08 AM
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29. His campaign is starting to heat up
I live about an hour from the SC border and we're beginning to see Edwards' ads every day.

That said, you make an important point. Edwards must emphasize that ALL Americans must be allowed to rise up and prosper. During Bill Clinton's administration many black Americans achieved middle class status and beyond, only to see Bush and his rich buddies pull the rug out from under them once again. South Carolinians remember that and they may be rewarding Hillary because of it. However, that doesn't mean she will convince them to vote for her once the SC campaign begins in earnest.

Edwards' message will resonate with the South Carolina Dems if he states clearly that ordinary African-Americans - like all ordinary Americans - are being held down and screwed by the Corporatocracy and that he's the guy who will fight for them. If he can convince them that he'll be a strong advocate for the real people, he'll do well.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM
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6. obama is giving this speech:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:23 PM
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7. ...
:bounce:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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8. He is not done in my book. I hate our MSM god damnit.
fuck matthews

fuck blitzer

fuck em all!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:30 PM
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17. Amen.
I'm sooo sick of the paris hilton style coverage of the candidates.

I'm turning on Letterman.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:18 AM
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61. FUCK NPR also
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 07:22 AM by Duncan
This morning they said Obama beat Clinton and did not even mention Edwards.

I donated to Edwards this morning.
Go do the same if you can please.
As anyone reading this probably knows, Edwards is not accepting corporate money.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:35 AM
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76. I tried not to listen to them last nite, Keith is the only one I'll listen too.
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:18 PM
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103. Same with me
and until Tweety showed up and started acting a fool (like he always does), I saw the showings for Edwards was good. I say second place is better than nothing!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:45 PM
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105. Even Keith Olbermann had his marching orders last night.
He was having to hammer home the Clinton/Obama two-part race theme and he didn't look any too happy about it.

But the networks have a lot to lose if Edwards gets in, so I'm sure the big bosses didn't want to hear a lot of news about the Edwards campaign.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:48 PM
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121. His coverage REALLY disappointed me.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:51 PM
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122. Me, too, mod mom. He didn't look too happy about it.
You know he had to do what his corporate masters demanded last night.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:28 PM
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104. Absolutely your right. MSM and GOP have to
be put in their place. They are subversive.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:25 PM
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133. None of them are done, and none of them has it locked up
Obama no more has it locked up than Hillary supposedly did a few months ago.

But I hear you and second the motion on the MSM. They are a disgrace to the
very concept of a free press. They abandoned journalism for political infotainment,
and it's disgusting to watch. These days, it seems it's more about fat heads
filling up time until the next highly valued commercial.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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9. Well I just gave him $100 so I'm still supporting him.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:20 AM
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67. Thank you!
I´ve given as much as allowed for primary & general.

Any donations should be through http://johnedwards.com/ in order to get matching funds. Double your pleasure!
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:11 PM
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129. what are the limits?
I haven't been keeping track, but I suppose I should.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 PM
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10. This gives me great hope. He beat Hillary, and was not far behind Obama. I am hoping.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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11. Nope, he's not done, he's just getting warmed up...not done, not
by a long shot.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 PM
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12. Geaux John Edwards!!
:kick:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:27 PM
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14. not at all done.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:29 PM
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16. I'll send him more money as soon as I can. He damn well better NOT be done!
Thanks, Helderheid! k&r

sw
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:40 PM
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21. Edwards is a fighter, he'll be there to the end.... he just needs M-O-N-E-Y -
Edwards was outspent 6 to 1 -
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:47 PM
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24. Well, I sure hope other folks will step up, I'm not exactly rolling in $$$ myself.
I live in a cabin in the woods with no plumbing -- I'm definitely no latte-sipping limosine liberal. :P
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:39 AM
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51. don't hold your breath
Edwards will struggle monetarily because most of his supporters are working class schmucks like me who can't afford to give much. Judging by what I see here on DU, many progressives who aren't struggling don't care much what happens to us. They can afford to vote for Hillary or Obama and revel in the glory of them getting the first black/woman president and quite frankly I don't think they give a damn what that is gonna cost OUR families.

I'm going to keep fighting for him and give him money, but the fix was in from the start on this one. Rich corporatists knew just one bought and paid for corporate shill wouldn't be enough to defeat him so they bankrolled two shills instead and made sure they had the tits/skin color to keep us divided. Then they made sure the MSM they own would ignore the populists so they could pretend 2008 is all about what flavor of corporate sellout America needs. Its working for them.

Say hello to President Huckleberry, because neither Hillary or Obama will be able to point to many differences between them on the major issues this country is facing. Ironically, Huckster, who also didn't get much corporate support, can now claim he is the LEAST tainted by corporate cash if they manage to off Edwards.

Iowa proves that right now Edwards views only get us 1/3 of America's Dem vote. If he can't improve that we are screwn. I hope I'm wrong but at 42, having watched not one progressive ever even make it to the GE, my gut says the best chance for a populist will be in 2012.

ps- whats a latte? I'm drinking store brand instant and don't have a cabin you freaking elitist. :evilgrin: at least laughs are still free.
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:44 AM
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60. EXACTLY.

my hope is that hillary and obama pummel each other to the mat and we see Edwards lap them both as a result.

there are two types of investment in business:
* financial - you put $x in, you hope to get $x + y%*x back
* strategic - you buy up a resource so your competitor can't have it, like microsoft buying hotmail.

edwards is not after a FINANCIAL victory.

he is after a STRATEGIC victory.

beating out clinton - and letting obama win iowa - could be the best strategic outcome possible, as now Hillary and Obama are destined to go at it against one another.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:28 AM
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89. A slight correction:
Progressives are not voting for or donating to Hillary or Obama. Some are still in the Kucinich camp but many others have moved to Edwards. The Hillary and Obama supporters are the Yellow Dog Democrats, Blue Dog Democrats, "centrists" and people who are impressed with glitz.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:15 AM
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54. as we used to say in Alaska
Unlike other people, YOU don't shit in your HOUSE :)

Bravo. Wish I could send some... I'm too poor to pay attention :)
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:24 AM
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68. Your support helps too! Money isn´t all that
counts.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:48 PM
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107. Don't you live in Minnesota, scarletwoman? Isn't it kinda cold up there?
:scared: No plumbing?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:30 PM
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158. LOL! Yes, I live in Minnesota.
The secret is having a styrofoam seat in your outhouse. Heats up instantly to body temperature when you sit your bare butt on it. One of the wonders of the modern world! :D
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:26 AM
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166. I always get the best tips on life from people who live out in the country!
And at the rate this "one world order" economy is going, we're all going to need to know how to make an outhouse more comfortable! :thumbsup:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:46 AM
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95. I wouldn't chase bad money with good money
But that's just me.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:35 PM
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159. I look at it as an investment in getting a particular message out.
My philosophy has always been "one mind at a time". If I can help fund an anti-corporatism message that might reach someone, somewhere; I consider it money well-spent, no matter what the outcome of the election.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:34 PM
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18. !
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 PM
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19. He's definitely not done.
One state, one night, with a 30% showing does not spell the end of a run.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:39 PM
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20. KICK
Going to bed
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM
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23. I hope not.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:48 PM
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25. He needs money..
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:49 PM by XOKCowboy
He spent a lot in Iowa. He'll need some dough to buy ads and keep his campaign going in the upcoming primaries. I've never donated to a presidential candidate but I'm going to send money to John Edwards.

edit for spelling sorry
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sagesnow Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:00 PM
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153. Thanks XOKCowboy
I just sent him all I could out of my paycheck because Edwards will fight for working people and their families. He also has a plan to bring Americans out of Poverty.
DU has an Edwards Supporters group where you can make a donation:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=257x704
Every little bit helps.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:41 AM
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168. You're welcome... What gets me is that on the ActBlue page Edwards is the clear favorite
More people have donate more money to Edwards than anybody else by a large margin.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:51 PM
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26. He did great - had almost NO media coverage of his campaign
The MSM has been assiduously ignoring Edwards, hoping it will hurt his chances of winning in the primaries. Looks like their strategy isn't working. Another great example of how good he is at campaigning against the MSM current.

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:57 PM
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27. If they ever put one of his speeches on the Nightly News..
people would be flocking to support him. Let's see how it changes now or if they'll still write him off.

Also we need to keep in mind that this is the 1st caucus. Nobody has been nominated or elected yet.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:02 AM
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28. Just checked our local GOP rag
Cleveland Plain Dealer (direct pipeline to the WH) barely mentioned Edwards. Their lede is "Hillary Placed 3rd, will still keep running".

That's exactly how the GOP wants it - keep Obama and Hillary in the headlines - ignore Edwards. He is the one they fear.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:27 AM
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88. Agree!
K&R
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 AM
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98. Double ditto agree!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:04 AM
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97. Let's start a roll of LTTEs,
asking WHY they shun the candidate who came in second last night?

Yep, we need to bombard the MSM with POed e-mails and LTTEs
demanding they give equal time to Edwards.

Aren't they required to do so?

;(
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:09 AM
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30. I'm still supporting him!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:11 AM
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31. ....he's just begun.
You've got my :kick: and Recommend anytime!
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:12 AM
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32. When I heard the news, they made it sound like Edwards got creamed.
He's at 30% vs. 38% for Obama. That's not bad at all. This is only one state. The polls obviously have no idea what's going on, as they predicted many things that didn't turn out. The country is not Iowa, and this isn't over, it's just starting.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:42 AM
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80. I agree, it is just starting, Edwards is not finished yet.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:21 PM
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161. In all fairness
Edwards has spent most of the past four years working Iowa. And that's on top of the second place finish he got there in 2004 to qualify him to be John Kerry's running mate.


I know it will be hard to swallow for many Edwards fans, but there's room for only one non-Hillary candidate after New Hampshire. If Edwards cannot beat Obama in that state, he's done. I travelled through South Carolina a couple of months ago. I did see one Edwards yard sign (yes, I got off of I-95) and no Hillary or Obama signs or bumper stickers. But I did pass through a lot of towns that were predominantly African-American, and was surprised not to see any visible support for Senator Obama. But that was before Oprah Winfrey went on tour there, and before Obama's win in Iowa. I have to think that a lot of African-Americans were having trouble believing that a black man can win white votes.


I have a feeling that they no longer think that, and if Senator Obama outpolls Senator Edwards in New Hampshire, they will be convinced that now is the time for a President who resembles them.

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:13 AM
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33. No he's not!!!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:14 AM
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34. ITA. Go Edwards! Congrats to Obama, but tomorrow is another day.
I think Edwards could beat Huckabee or Romney.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:15 AM
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35. I sure as hell hope not
I am not voting for anyone else.
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2hip Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:37 AM
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36. Just made a contribution to show my support and belief in him
It's Top Ramen for me for a week but showing my support for John and all he stands for is worth the sacrifice.




        Edwards '08 tees!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM
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44. I agree that Edwards' campaign is worth the sacrifice.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM by MilesColtrane
Here's some recipes I'll be looking forward to.

http://www.budget101.com/ramen_noodle_recipes.htm
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:53 AM
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53. We're all Top Rameners now! :) Welcome to DU!
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:55 AM by puebloknot
As John Kennedy famously said: "Ich bin ein Top Ramener"! :)
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:26 AM
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69. Thnak you!
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:41 PM
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141. Wow...you inspire me so I will offer some advice...
Use regular noodles and it would probably cost a little less and be a bit more healthy...for flavor, try mrs dash or some others that are now imitating and are a lot cheaper...best deal about Mrs Dash is flavor without the salt.

The real deal with ramen is that you get flavor and carbs for a few pennies...but they are not very healthy.

FYI: Beans and rice is a bit more nutritious and makes a complete protein and is super cheap to boot...gotta boil water, but hey, you do that with Ramen...add the Mrs Dash trick for flavor and bingo a solid meal.

For perfect cheap white rice - equal parts rice to water bring to boil turn down to absolute lowest setting and leave on lid, turn off in 25 minutes. Fluff...

Sorry for the culinary lessons...Ramen talk makes me hungry ;-) and cheap food is a specialty of mine...had to be at one point...

Peace...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:40 AM
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37. Absolutely not. If anything, his victory over Hillary gives him even more momentum.
I sure wouldn't drop out if I were him.

:headbang:
rocknation
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:07 AM
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40. My thoughts exactly
He beat Hillary, and placed a strong second. That's a great showing!
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Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:49 AM
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38. I agree plus...
with Biden and Dodd dropping out and with one more debate between now and NH, he will get more time to speak and talk about the issues in that debate. If he keeps talking about change and about him beating the Clinton machine in Iowa in the next four days, he could possibly win or come in a strong 2nd in NH. If Edwards beats Clinton in NH (even if Obama comes in 1st) he's in a better postion to call himself "The Comeback Kid." But he's got to win either NH, Nevada, or SC. If he doesn't win one of them he won't make it to Feb. 5th. But Edwards is FAR from done.

Getting airtime in on the local news in NH is also key for Edwards since the MSM gives him none.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:13 AM
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43. Good Analysis
Clinton is rated #1 in NH but that is dropping like an anchor.
South Carolina, I think, does not have the power which you place it
California he has good grass roots support so our delegates will have a major influence.

Super Tuesday is the final test for all the candidates
and that sucks for the rest of the nation for it will be decided
by a minority...........of states and population.

'If democracy was fair they would make it illegal.'
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:35 AM
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90. Do you have new polls for New Hampshire?
Last I saw was Thursday afternoon and Clinton still had a very strong lead. Last I saw Edwards was only polling at 12% (3rd place) in South Carolina. Nevada is conservative and Hillary had something like a 20-point lead over her nearest rival (can't remember who it is right now).

The next succession of primaries are unfortunate for Edwards because two of those states are conservative (NV & SC).

IF he can hold out for Super Tuesday, I think he'll have an excellent chance in California and New York IF he keep repeating that, if he's elected, he'll pull our troops of out Iraq immediately. THAT is what people want to hear and THAT is where he has it miles above his two corporatist rivals.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:14 PM
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113. Agreed: Edwards has to do the Dean Scream that HE'S GETTING US OUT OF IRAQ!!!
That is what every dem I know wants to hear. Then, he can hammer home the rest of his message... A POPULIST MESSAGE.. which the MSM networks act like is some sort of leprosy.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:53 PM
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156. There you are
THAT'S what we need to hear.

But not the scream thing. It was over for Howard after the scream. :D
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:11 AM
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41. He's just getting started. Go John Edwards!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:12 AM
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42. A week in politics = a lifetime in "real time"
Nobody has it "in the bag" yet.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:24 AM
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45. While this is true it also cuts both ways, it means that Edwards didn't just spend the last 4 years
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:08 AM by LeviathanCrumbling
in Iowa, but in fact spent his whole metaphoric political lifetime there, he needed a win tonight to stay strong.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:31 AM
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46. Good point
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 AM
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47. What he really needs now is a strong second place showing in New Hampshire to keep him in the hunt.
According to the poll numbers that will be difficult, but I'm not counting him out either.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:40 AM
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48. he is not done by a longshot baby
momentum!!!!!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:45 AM
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49. I dearly hope he is done
Thank you, Iowans!
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:30 AM
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55. Why do you dearly hope Edwards is done? Are you afraid
he might beat Obama in NH and elsewhere?

By the way, good of you to pop in and gloat. :eyes:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:23 AM
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56. You're welcome
No, I am not afraid of him beating anyone. I do not want that poseur to be our president. I have been following this man for ten years. My vote helped him get his senate seat.

His way of dealing w/the climatic crisis everybody on this planet is in, is 180 degrees from mine. This is an extremely important issue w/me.

Of course that is not the only issue I disagree w/him on. He was a DLCer and a Bilderberger. His co-sponsorship and vote for the IWR was, I believe, for the expediency of a future run. I am anti-war. War solves nothing.

His votes for NCLB, trade w/China, Yucca Mtn, the bankruptcy bill, to exempt fuel refiners from liability and voting against regulation of drinking water are yet more issues I am in disagreement with.

Btw, I am not an Obama supporter, although I like the man and his constitutional law teaching history.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:25 AM
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59. John Edwards was invited
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 05:26 AM by frogmarch
to speak at a Bilderberg meeting in 2004. What's wrong with that? Bill Clinton attends, or at least, attended, meetings of the Bilderberg Group frequently. Do you hold that against him?

Here we go again with Edwards's co-sponsoring, and voting for, a bill to authorize the president to invade Iraq AS A LAST RESORT, a condition that bush ignored and invaded immediately. The information the senators were given were based on false and cherry-picked intelligence. They were lied to. But they should have known better than to believe the president and Colin Powell, so it's their fault they were tricked, wasn't it? :eyes: Even Obama said he couldn't be sure how he'd have voted had he been given the same information the senators were.

Edwards on NCLB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW9lhfylOgw

Edwards on NAFTA and WTO: http://www.johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070806-trade/

Edwards and Yucca Mountain: (oops, lost the link)

snip:

WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate U.S. Sen. John Edwards switched positions and now opposes building a nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain, U.S. Sen. Harry Reid said.

Reid, D-Nev., said Edwards told him in a Tuesday conversation that he will work to stop the controversial nuclear waste project from being built.

...

Edwards, D-N.C., voted to build Yucca Mountain in 2002 to help North Carolina’s nuclear power plants, which wanted to get rid of their spent nuclear fuel stored on-site. Edwards’ support was not crucial in the July 2002 vote in which 60 senators voted to move forward with the project.

Before Nevada’s Democratic caucus in February, Edwards and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean supported building Yucca Mountain, while Kerry, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark and U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., opposed it.

~~

Did Edwards vote for the Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnification Act? I haven't found any online information stating that he did. Would you happen to have a link to it? I assume you're referring to this legislation when you state that Edwards voted to exempt fuel refiners from liability and against drinking water regulations.

I do know that Edwards is against building new nuclear plants, and wants to severely curtail greenhouse gas emissions. He also hopes to create a million new green-friendly jobs.

Edwards regrets having voted for the bankruptcy bill.

He has learned from his mistakes. I applaud him for that, and for where he stands today.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:32 AM
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73. Great info. Thanks
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:21 PM
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116. Constitutional law my ass.
If he gave a damn about the constitution, he'd be gathering his buddies in the Senate to push their buddies in the house to start impeachment. At least, he'd be talking it up in his campaign.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:25 PM
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157. He's the only one (of the three) who refuses to expand nuclear power
There are many reasons why he's the pick of so many environmentalists.

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:48 PM
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160. Makes me wonder if those environmentalists
have seen the acres of trees he had clear cut so he could build his monstrosity.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:28 AM
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50. Thank you. I'm sick of being sold Obama & Hillary. I'm NOT buying.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 02:28 AM by TheGoldenRule
I want a fighter and it's starting to look like Edwards might be THE ONE, if I can't have Gore.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:35 AM
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75. You can´t have Gore, so if you mean that
I would suggest you start supporting Edwards now.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:42 AM
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52. Edwards is my hope. /nt
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:26 AM
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57. John Edwards is the ONLY candidate talking about THE issue . . .
that undergirds all other issues, i.e. corporate influence and control in our government . . . I've been waiting for a candidate like this for a l-o-o-o-o-ng time -- and so has the nation . . . as his message gets out there more and more, Edwards will attract more and more support and more and more voters . . . this is just the beginning . . .
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:12 AM
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58. He's still the best candidate.
:thumbsup:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:21 AM
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62. Of course he's not..
... the MSM just wishes he was.

Those throwaway prognostications of the MSM are laughable in their utter failure to predict anything.

Weren't they calling Clinton inevitable just a couple months ago.

They couldn't find their own asses with both hands.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:23 AM
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63. Distant 3rd in NH. he's done.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:26 AM
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64. Another reason to DUMP the Iowa/New Hampshire "go first" BS.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:38 AM
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77. No he´s not!
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:36 AM
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102. Pollster had Obama at 27% (still does!) in Iowa...he got 37%
Dean dropped 14% in NH overnight...

Polls change.

Most voters are sheep.

Nothing is set in stone yet.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:50 PM
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134. No. Caucases are FAR harder to predict than primaries,
since the turnout is much more variable.

Edwards is done after his 3rd place in NH. He may not drop out next week, but he's over.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:51 AM
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65. Of course he is not..he is as good of a candidate as Obama or Hillary
You can't say Edwards lost Iowa. When Oprah started bussing in all those students to register and vote for Obama you knew he would probably take Iowa. But wait til he has to really get out the vote in the other states. He won't make it. Hillary is also a good candidate but the republicans know damn well if she is the candidate they are lost. So they are probably going to pay more to get Obama the nod then either Edwards or Hillary. They know little panty waist can be easily knocked off. They want him as the candidate. Don't let them fool you when they say different, Edwards of Hillary will kick republican ass so bad the dust wouldn't settle for years. With Obama as their opposition they know it will be a cake walk.

And it is a shame that all those students bussed in for this occasion names and addresses are filed away to see how long the stay in Iowa and how many times they vote in other states. Talk about voter fraud...but then it is Iowa's fault for wanting to get recognized once every four years.
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:40 AM
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78. The reality is 18/17/16 mandates from IA to
Obama/Edwards/Clinton.

The rest is media hype!
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:20 AM
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66. Of course he's not done
The pundits don't know diddly. Didn't Matthews say during Hardball that McCain would win by 18 percent? Edwards has done extremely well with only a fraction of the money the media's chosen candidates received.

How can the media ignore him? I guess the bigger question is why do they ignore him.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:18 PM
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136. Because a 3-way race implies too much nuance!
Because in their view -- like conservatives' view -- everything must have two sides. TWO sides. That's an easier sell when you think your listeners/voters are... simplistic. A three-way race implies (shudder) nuance!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:27 AM
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70. Edwards is just getting started
He's far from done. He was running third in most polls, only a couple of weeks ago. I think he can win, and beat ANY republican candidate! Especially Willard or Huckleberry!
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:28 AM
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71. I've seen at least 10 of these threads.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 08:28 AM by RL3AO
Were has anyone credible, said Edwards is done?
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peacock Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:41 AM
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79. No where
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:29 AM
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72. Thank you!! I feel the same way!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:46 AM
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81. I am going to donate to John using the site that DU offers
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:24 AM
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87. fyi: JRE does not get matching funds if you donate with Actblue.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:47 PM
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142. with a non-functioning FEC
will anyone get any funds?

:shrug:

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:48 AM
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82. I hope Edwards keeps going.
Obama thinks he can work with the rethugs. It won't happen. The last 7 years is proof.
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:16 AM
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83. Not by a LONG shot! K&R.
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 10:16 AM by amb123
From another PDA member supporting Edwards (in Arizona). Big-Brother Corporations are the enemies of the people.
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:21 AM
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84. Agree. Sending more $$$$ this AM
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:22 AM
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85. I hope not. John Ewards is one beautiful cat, man!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:23 AM
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86. I hope not and today's payday so I'll have to send him some $$$ n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:41 AM
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92. I didn't know PDA was supporting Edwards -
I have a serious question, helderheid - the reason I was having trouble supporting Edwards, is that I can't get that picture I had of him at the Edwards/Cheney debate out of my head.

I thought he was terrible at that debate - I actually cursed Kerry for picking him after that. What has changed - help me get excited about him.
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jemsan Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:58 AM
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96. Go to YouTube and watch a few of his speeches this time around..
try the speech he gave in San Diego last year at the California Democratic State Convention...fabulous..or watch his speech last night. Then perhaps that will be the mental picture you carry around of him!! Pretty great speeches.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:44 AM
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93. KICK!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 10:46 AM
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94. Prove it!
How is he going to win the nomination?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:25 AM
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99. I would hope not
Iowa is one small- not diverse state- So I would hope they weren't the deciding factor in things concerning my family here in liberal Mass.

John will now get a big boost from all those who had been going for Biden/Dodd/Kucinich/Richardson.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:29 AM
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100. I'd say 80-85% of the B/D/K/R supporters joined the Edwards group
in my caucus precinct last night once their candidates were declared non-viable (under the 15% threshold).
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:43 PM
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117. Exactly. And it was the REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T WANT HILLARY
that came out in DROVES to vote for Obama.

Do we really want a candidate that the REPUBLICANS pick for us?

Hell no!!
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:32 AM
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101. No, not done... not even well done... just rare.
I wish there were more like him.

Go Edwards!
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:45 PM
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106. K&R. Go Edwards! n/t
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:48 PM
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108. Edwards will do well in Texas in March.
Iowa is just one state's primary.
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mmarsh Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:52 PM
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109. Why are people saying he's done? I think he did very well.


He came in 2nd and only spent a fraction of the money the others did. If he can stay close in NH then he will be in very good shape for the southern state primaries of which he has the advantage.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:58 PM
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110. Far from it!
:hi:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:01 PM
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111. Done? I thought he was just warming up
:-)
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:03 PM
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112. He came in 2nd, it speaks volumes!
For the man who represents the people and spent the least!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:19 PM
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114. Yet the headlines are all "Obama wins! Hillary loses." No mention of Edwards.
The corporate media is still trying to pretend that it is a Two Man Race even though Edwards was right up there with the others despite the media blackout and the lack of money (that comes from being the victim of a media blackout).
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:20 PM
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115. Has anyone suggested that Edwards is done? n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 PM
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119. MSM n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:56 PM
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150. CNN Situation Room, some woman said his campaign was over, because he came in second.
:grr:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:19 PM
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118. i am still in DesMoines..working with the Edwards Camp..please read my post
that i posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3937206&mesg_id=3951330

I don't have time to repeat as i am calling folks today for $$ for Edwards..and only have a minute to spare..

please read my post..

about the caucus and the volunteers and people of Iowa i have been blessed to work with this past week!!

fly
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:22 PM
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120. bless you, Fly! I'll read your post. I just donated more $$$
:hug:
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:05 PM
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124. I hope not. Second in Iowa is nothing to sneeze at.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:14 PM
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125. He finished AHEAD of Hillary. She is not done.
So why would John be done? :shrug:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:39 PM
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126. Sent him some money about an hour ago.
It feels good.

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:46 PM
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127. This'll Get A K & R From Me (If It's Not Too Late)
I'm looking closer at Edwards all the time. I ain't eatin' what the msm is feedin' me either!
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:04 PM
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128. i sent in $250.00 last night and i live in Nevada!

i will not give in or give up until victory

RUN JOHN! RUN!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:19 PM
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131. Welcome to DU!!!
:hi:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:18 PM
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130. GO EDWARDS!!!!!!!
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Wisperingvoice Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:56 PM
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144. I'll never Give Up.
Failure's not an option and quitters are cowards. THE FIGHT AIN'T OVER YET!!! We've got plenty of time...
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 06:14 PM
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132. Sending a little more cash his way, lighting candles, saying prayers - GO EDWARDS!! n/t
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:13 PM
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135. No....
He sure the hell isn't.

K&R
:kick:
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:21 PM
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137. Edwards can't get it done. He failed in 2004 and he fails again in 2008.
He just doesn't have what it takes.

Flame away.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:37 PM
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138. Thanks for stopping by to drop the turd in the punchbowl.
Your efforts on behalf of the Democratic Party are deeply appreciated. :sarcasm:
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:39 PM
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139. LOL - & it wasn't even a Baby Ruth - another kick for Edwards. n/t
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:07 PM
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145. Enjoy the punch. We could have the White House right now if
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 08:08 PM by MirrorAshes
Kerry had picked Gephardt instead of Edwards for VP. Why he went MIA after being picked is something I'll never understand. If Kerry reigned him in, he should say so. But he also let Dick Cheney walk away from their debate without a scratch on him. If Edwards is such a fighter why couldn't he bring it then? I'll never forgive him for those things, and imho, those things make him one thing: a losing bet.

He's a phony. I'm amazed so many DUers can't see right through him. Its all so transparent.

ps. I do plenty of good work for the Democratic Party. I just don't like putting it in the hands of a snake-oil salesman like Edwards, and neither should anybody else.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:27 PM
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148. "We could have the White House...if Kerry had picked Gephardt..."
That's completely ridiculous.

Kick for Edwards!

:kick:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:49 AM
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164. GEPHARDT?!?!? Are you freaking kidding me??
Maybe if there was a shortage of Ambien or something following a widespread outbreak of insomnia, but not really under any other circumstances...
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:40 PM
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140. Kick ( 'cause apparently the MSM thinks he's dropped off the face of the Earth)
:kick:
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whatdoyouthink Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:49 PM
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143. Not Done by a Long Shot
This Wont Be decided by one or two States....

Going to go to the wire...

Go John Go
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:12 PM
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146. Absolutely!
Not Done by a Long Shot is RIGHT!

Go John! We're with you!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:20 PM
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147. no he is not done. I just donated.
ALSO -

MSNBC had a 5 minute segment with Chuck Todd and Joe Scarborough, with Tweety, and they went ON AND ON about Hillary & Obama, totally ignoring John Edwards beating Hillary Clinton in Iowa as if he didn't exist. The last 10 seconds of the segment, Todd said something about how the Obama people were pulling for Hillary not to get that little extra bit she needed to pass John Edwards for 2nd place... that was the only mentioning of him during that entire segment. Earlier in the show Elizabeth hammered Tweety for this VERY practice of shutting John out because Tweety has lust in his pants for Hillary, and lust in his heart for Obama (I've never seen him so slurping of his saliva as he kept doing while talking about Obama, it was grossly embarrassing).


John will FIGHT the corporations as president, they know this. I guess we just have to keep telling people to LISTEN closely to the words John uses and realize that Hillary & Obama are dancing around the corporations but using soft words that imply change. John will bring change, he is not behooved or whatever to the corporations.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:48 PM
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149. Oh yes he is, the corporate controlled media says it so it must be true!!
I mean, there is no correlation between Edwards saying he's going to be tough on corporate power, and the corporate controlled press stating he's finished over and over again.

None at all.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 08:58 PM
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151. KO on Countdown first TV journalist to call bs on today's fiction that Edward's is through.
Edwards was in the show.

KO also asked why the GOP pundits are all trash talking Huckabee.

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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:00 PM
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152. I really like Edwards and I hope you are right.
For the life of me, I don't understand the antipathy for Edwards, even among very very intelligent people here I respect.

It is a total mystery to me.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 09:46 PM
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154. donated to the Edwards campaign before I left for work this morning,,,
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:39 AM
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163. I will get a check out to him tomorrow....(gave up credit cards)
He is not done by a long shot!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:31 AM
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165. I donated again, too, for the third time. This is the most I've ever donated....
I read that JE is ramping up for Nevada....so it looks like he isn't planning to quit soon...
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tangerine1700 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:35 AM
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167. IT IS NOT OVER YET!!!
hi all,

so the Iowa caucus turned out amazing! WE BEAT HILLARY!!! all over the news, people thought Edwards was finnished. the american people showed them, didn't they? on NH!!!

John Edwards for President
2008

love,
tangerine
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:44 AM
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169. Who said he was?
I really did expect him to win Iowa but John Edwards is far from over.
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