On Obama's Being Black And His Possible Nomination

[WillyT]

I support Edwards...

That being said...

If we as Democrats fail to nominate Barack Obama for the sole reason of his being black, and because we are afraid that racist America will rise up and give the Presidency to a Huckabee, or a Romney, or even a McCain...

After all this country has seen and been through the last 7 years...

THEN RACIST AMERICA GETS EXACTLY WHAT IT DESERVES.

And so do those partisan hacks here, who peddle the most vile of "concern troll" filth!

Right-wing Supreme Court, endless war, finishing touches on the corporate take-over of America, etc...

We will have deserved ALL OF IT!

Majority rules, eh???

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. AGREED. I have had this concern too, but you know what? It's 2008.

2008 fer chrissakes. Not 1962. Not even 1992.

If America has to bare its naked redneck soul to the world to vote for some godawful Republican candidate over Obama, then let it be bared to the world. I think I'm right with you on this.

Edited for HAPPY NEW YEAR

[salin]

4. pssst

2008.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

13. Hey don't stop me I'm on a roll dammit!!!! LOL (sheepish)

[Jackpine Radical]

5. Damn. I thought it was 2008.

[Evergreen Emerald]

2. I hope that does not happen. And I hope we give a female a chance too.

I hope we nominate the best one for the job. And that, just happens to be a woman.

[WillyT]

3. I'm Not A Big Clinton Fan, But I Agree...

If we are afraid to nominate a black or a female, then we are as racist and sexist as anybody else, and do not deserve to be called Democrats, or even Americans.

[DaLittle Kitty]

8. Let's Just Nominate The Best Person For Middle America who Just Happens to Be Neither of the above!

[emilyg]

7. Yep.

[Windy]

9. No, her lack of judgment makes her the worst choice of the remaining candidates

she is WRONG on foreign policy. As a result, if she is elected, our country will still run the risk of becoming embroiled in other wars in the middle east, i.e. iran.
She is the wrong choice for our times and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with her being a woman. It has to do 100% with her beliefs and poor policy recommendations and choices as clearly demonstrated by her past mistakes in judgment on Iraq and Iran.

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. Windy: she is no different on foreign policy than Obama or Edwards

That is a distortion of her record and her beliefs. To continue to spew this crap after it has been debunked again and again, makes me wonder about your agenda.

[terisan]

6. Is Obama black? Half African Kenyan, half Caucasian I thought.

Race gets so confusing. I think there are many white Americans who tend to be more accepting of people with African descent who have no American slave history in their background than they are of African-Americans who came out of American slave ancestry.


White America often feels more comfortable with Colin Powell types than with people like John Lewis (whom I would have liked to see run for president).

[lapfog_1]

10. To all "concern trolls"...

Racist homophobic sexist redneck / redstate 'mericuns aren't voting for ANY of our candidates, even if Jesus appears in the heavens and instructs them to do so.

Get over it.

If Barak Obama can win in IOWA (97 % lily white IOWA), he can win anywhere in the US where any democratic candidate could win. End of story.

And I'm not even an Obama supporter (yet, though the anti-Obama crowd is really pushing me into his camp).

[WillyT]

14. Word !!!

"And I'm not even an Obama supporter (yet, though the anti-Obama crowd is really pushing me into his camp)."

They're pushing me that way too!

[MzNov]

11. I think whitey white Iowa showed America we are not going to look at race.

In a way I'm glad Sen. Obama won Iowa. We needed a shot of "fuck you racist trolls". I support Edwards too but it has nothing to do with his skin. Actually, it's his hair. :rofl:

[Mimosa]

12. Obama's the man

There certainly are racist people in the USA. But I've lived long enough to have seen a lot of good changes. I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. My mother worked in the Civil Rights movement in Atlanta. America is not the same country it was then, not at all. While racism is still around, as is ignorance and many other bad things, it is not fair or correct to call America a racist country. To do so would mean hating and disrespecting ourselves.

[WHAT]

19. Sex without borders and ladies' choice...

Mostly I like Obama's youth. I see his race (mixed) as a harbinger of the future. It's almost like America is stepping into the frontier of the future with this choice. It's the older people who are more edgy about race...the younger people have the saliency of experience with family and friends and that supersedes race affiliation. I wish I could put it better.

I like his stand on Iraq. My biggest fear is that bigotry against the poor will become the new hate.

[LibDemAlways]

16. My husband commutes to Seattle weekly where he works

with a guy who lives in a suburb called Maple Valley. Recently they were discussing our daughter's school here in Southern Cal and the co-worker's kids' school in the Seattle suburb. When my husband described our daughter's school as being a melting pot for kids from lots of different backgrounds, his co-worker, a college-educated professional, scoffed and said he was proud that his kids attend a "normal white school."

Had dinner with my repuke sister-in-law the other day. She's for Romney because she says he looks "Presidential." Is clueless about his positions. Dismissed Obama outright. Not going to vote, she said, for someone whose middle name is Hussein.

That's what we're up against in this election, folks. If those two are any indication of what's out there, Obama, should he win the nomination, will face a tough and bigoted road - and we very well could end up with 4 or 8 more years of repuke tyranny.

[WillyT]

17. And As I Said, America Will Deserve It !!!

You and I might not deserve it personally, but that's not how Democracy works.

"In a Democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville

:shrug:

[LibDemAlways]

18. Well, we've had to endure 7 plus years of the Bush

Crime Family partly because of the stupidity of the American people - who made the last two elections close enough to steal. I don't see that they've particularly wised or smartened up. We'll have to wait and see.