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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:45 AM
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I don't understand why crying is such a big issue...
Jesus Wept. John 11:35
(That's the shortest New Testament Bible verse, incidentally).

I don't know why people make such a big issue of such things. It's a very human thing. We are all vulnerable.

I don't know why the media makes such a big deal of such things. It is really unfair.

Many folks here probably don't remember, but Ed Muskie was the major front runner in 1972, and he wept after terrible lies were printed about his wife in a New Hampshire paper. He lost big time, and it was attributed to his emotional display.

I think i wept when Congress passed the Iraq War Resolution. Didn't all people of conscience respond emotionally to that vote.. Didn't we all see that it was giving a damn fool a license to go to war of aggression? Didn't most of see the catastrophe that was unfolding? Don't we see that now?

Will we work together to do all we can to bring an immediate withdrawal, and fight like hell to halt all funding for this illegal, immoral, and insane war? don't depend on politicians. we gotta do this ourselves.

See ya on the streets.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:49 AM
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1. Crying only shows your human, but THIS is why Hillary is going to lose
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:49 AM by still_one
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:55 AM
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4. has she hired Dickie Cheney??
that really sucks.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:05 AM
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6. It seems like. I would have voted for whoever the Democratic nominee was
NOT anymore. By that action she has failed to distinguish herself from the leading republican candidates in my book
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:17 AM
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7. At least she didn't say
'fu>k you', like big dickie did!

give Hillary a fuckin' break---the crying shit is getting really old.

:argh:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:28 AM
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9. Like i said, the cryin' thing is really beside the point, the war thing is The ISSUE
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 02:28 AM by Tom Joad
" It's the War, stupid" should be the sign she hangs in her campaign office.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:49 AM
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2. "don't depend on politicians. we gotta do this ourselves. "
Hell yes. Well said. Anybody here who thinks any of our candidates can get in and hand it to us on a silver platter is wrong. Whoever gets in, real change will depend on how willing we are to fight.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:54 AM
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3. Not only that, it seem the main ones ain't got any motivation to get the troops out now.
hillaryobamaedwards don't.
Pelosi doesn't... she keeps funding it.
Hoyer? :rofl: we know he won't.
Reid? c'mon... be serious.

We gotta surge on the streets.

There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!

Shut down the war machine!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:01 AM
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5. Congress can't shut down the war machine, if it doesn't have the votes
and the only way we even have a chance is if the Democrats or Ron Paul get in the White House

and out of the three leading Democrats, those most likely to get us out of Iraq if they are elected are either Edwards followed by Obama. Clinton's actions, especially her vote on the Kyle/Lieberman ammendment say as plain as day, she has NO intention of getting us out of Iraq

Ron Paul would get us out of Iraq, but civil rights and other important issues would be in jepardy if he one, and that cost would also be too much


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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:26 AM
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8. It doesn't have the votes cuz so many dems support continued funding
It would not even take a full majority to stop the funding.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:33 AM
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10. I don't disagree, but that is the circular argument. You definitely won't get those
cowards to stop the funding

I am pretty much waiting until after the election is over before I go at them

If it wasn't for the Supreme Court I would have already left the party

But one thing is for sure, IF the Democrats win, I will give them no more than one year to get out of Iraq, or I will no longer be a Democrat

Perhaps I should have done that in 2006 when the Democrats barely took back Congress, and then proceeded to do NOTHING

but I am waiting for 2008, when the odds favor a clear majority in Congress of the Democrats, and there will be no excuses then

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:53 AM
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11. But she didn't cry. Not even a tear.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:59 AM
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12. It's not. But if anyone is expecting the media to leave it alone and report
on important things, they will be disappointed.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:02 AM
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13. We expect better emotional stability from the person who controls the US Nuclear Arsenal.
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