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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:03 AM
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President Clinton Sees Post-Iowa 'Tidal Wave,' Faults Press for Obama 'Fairy Tale'
http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2008/01/president-clinton-sees-post-iowa.html

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Mr. Clinton's answer came in response to a questioner who challenged Senator Clinton's pollster and chief strategist, Mark Penn, for being unduly negative in a memo he sent out Saturday claiming Mr. Obama got no bounce out of Iowa. He has since picked up about 10% in several polls.

"The bounce always occurs on the second day not the first day," Mr. Clinton said, conceding the mistake before turning the table on the questioner and the Obama camp. "What did you think about the Obama thing calling Hillary the senator from Punjab? Did you like that? Or what about the Obama handout that was covered up, the press never reported on, implying that I was a crook. Scouring me—scathing criticism over my financial reports. Ken Starr spent $70 million to find out that I wouldn't take a nickel to see the cow jump over the moon."

"So you can take a shot at Mark Penn if you want. It wasn't his best day. He was hurt. He felt badly we didn't do better in Iowa," Mr. Clinton explained during the forum. "But the idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage that's in the media doesn't mean the facts aren't out there."

At that point, Mr. Clinton seemed to realize he had launched into a bit of a finger-wagging tirade. "Otherwise, I don't have any strong feelings about that subject," he joked, before turning to another question.

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The Press? Cover up St. Obama? Big Dawg must just be tired. /sarcasm off.

Seems I've been lost in a dream
Pretending that you care
But now I've opened up my eyes
And found it's all been just a great big fairytale
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:06 AM
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1. More truth from Clinton.
It is not as black and white as people want to make it seem. Obama is getting a free pass.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:08 AM
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2. Bill, she's not one percent of the candidate you were, and never will be. Perhaps her future is to
be a great Senate Majority Leader in New York.

Sometimes you ride the tidal wave, sometimes it buries you.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:09 AM
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3. Americans want a fairy tale prez right now.
The reality of the last seven years
has been so brutal.

Fascism of the corporate and religious
kind is hard to take.

Fantasy looks good.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:09 AM
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4. Bill desperately wants to get back in that White House

but it ain't happening.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:10 AM
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5. Keep diggin' Bill.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:11 AM
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6. Found this Re: Punjab
"The D-Punjab reference apparently refers to a joke Senator Clinton made last year, at a fund-raiser hosted by New York-based hotelier and top Democratic fund-raiser Sant Singh Chatwal. 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' she had said on that occasion."

So, Hillary started the Punjab references.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/15clinton.htm

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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:12 AM
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7. i have no problems with the Punjab reference myself for one simple reason
The reference in the headline is an allusion to an article found in the Nexis news database from the the March 17, 2006 issue of India Abroad. Writer Aziz Haniffa was reporting from a fundraiser in which "over 80 prominent Sikh professionals and entrepreneurs from the Washington metropolitan area paid $500 to $2,000 apiece" to boost Clinton's political warchest:

At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.

As for the fairy tale, i remember a rather nice one about the comeback kid from a place called Hope, had a rather nice ending
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 AM
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11. Sounds like she was content with that label when it came with a $50K check attached.
And sounds like she's being a hypocrite now that her own words
have come back to haunt her.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:32 AM
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8. Clinton was the media darling before Iowa. She was unstoppable, inevitiable, a perfect campaign
the media was glowing about clinton and she recieved the most airtime of any of the candidates prior to the vote in Iowa. Up until the day of the primary when the DMR poll was released, all media declared that she was the one to beat.

While I do that that post iowa, she has recieved a lot of press, she has brought in on herself by projecting that air of inevitability.

The problem with Hillary is her campaign and her message.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:01 AM
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9. no crediabilty left big dog
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:01 AM by madrchsod
thank god the 90`s are in the past
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:22 AM
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10. Oh God yes...Things have been sooo much better since then..
:crazy:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:33 AM
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12. Ask the Mexicans how good the 90's were. It should be easy,
After NAFTA millions of them were forced to come to the US to find work after big American Agriculture dumped surplus corn on the Mexican market.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:44 AM
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13. I wonder who Bill would be supporting if his wife wasn't running? nt
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