OBAMA...I wouldn't trust him from here to my mailbox.

[Justice Is Comin]

I said it before, and I'm sticking to it.

Prepare to see the video of this....http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/10/obama_opens_door_to_2008_run_a.html.... by whichever sleazoid red shirt is picked .....

Red shirt rednecks will have it pasted all over their pickups.


<clip>

From Meet the Press

MR. RUSSERT: Well, nine months ago, you were on this program and I asked you about running for
president. And let's watch and come back and talk about it.

(Videotape, January 22, 2006):

MR. RUSSERT: When we talked back in November of '04, after your election, I said, "There's been
enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your full six-year term as a United States

senator from Illinois?" Obama: "Absolutely."

SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner
or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things, but my thinking has not
changed.

MR. RUSSERT: But, but--so you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?

SEN. OBAMA: I will not. ....(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: You will not.


Remind you of anything?

This puts everything into perspective exactly about everything he's saying now. He's like a fledgling movie star that loves the paparazzi until they become a movie star. Then they want to be photograhed only when they want it. That's Obama. And please don't tell me this example is minor.

He's full of platitudes to nowhere. Happy feet for everybody. Corporations---come on d-own, you're the next to benefit on the price was right.



They'll co-opt him and twist him like a rope. Then it will be too late.

He's a self-adoring power seeker and he hasn't even had a taste of presidential level power yet.

Wake up people or you might get what you asked for.

[Richard Steele]

1. fascinating

:popcorn:

[papau]

24. his handlers canceled the 5 morning show appears today - he's in a bubble of protection until 11/08

:popcorn:

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[blogslut]

2. ok

:hi:

[H2O Man]

3. Gracious.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. That settles it-- I'm voting Huckababble if Obama runs..

[iconoclastic cat]

7. Why, you treasonous...bast...oh, I gotcha. nt

[iconoclastic cat]

5. None of us should ever trust the President, regardless!

Don't trust your government. That's the point. They have to be forced to represent us through our pressure. If you start trusting them, you get what we've had for the past eight years.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. I think Clinton said something similar a few years ago!!!

[Missy M]

15. She said it in her first run for senator....

and she didn't run in 2004. She did not say it during her second run for senator.

[ccpup]

20. nope, wrong again

she kept her promise not to run for President when she was first elected in 2000 and did NOT say she wouldn't run if re-elected in 2006.

Obama flat-out lied to his constituents and obviously used his Senate win and the voters who trusted him with their concerns as a convenient stepping stone to his ultimate goal, the Presidency.

[dansolo]

60. As an former Illini, you are mistaken about one thing.

Don't claim to speak for us. This constituent is not at all pissed about him running for president. Why? Because we in the midwest are sick of every fucking presidential candidate coming from the south or the northeast. It is a relief to finally have the possibility of having a midwestern president.

[AlCzervik]

8. we're all gonna die.

do you realize?

[iconoclastic cat]

12. "By the way, does anyone here know how to fly a plane?" nt

[Blarch]

9. Jeeeesh.

Instead of a politician calling out for supporters, and them answering.

We have large groups of Americans calling out for a politician ...and he answered.

I had his sticker on my car back then, when he was on MTP. I told my wife there would be a calling, and once he was heard he would become a blinding light out shining everything else.

And here we are today. Obama has answered the call. I am from Chicago, so maybe I recognized this early, but now everybody knows.

[Stand and Fight]

55. Belch... Puke...

"...he would become a blinding light out shining everything else." :puke: Kind of a fanatic, aren't we?

[Radical Activist]

10. Bill Clinton did the same thing the last time he ran for Governor.

No one remembers or cares any more.

[JDPriestly]

27. John Edwards has been consistent.

He ran for president at the end of his term. He did not run for president and for the Senate at the same time. Edwards has been fair and honest on this.

Both Clinton and Obama accepted the responsibility of serving in the Senate and are now running for president.

[Radical Activist]

34. Except for his moderate voting record.

Its important to me that Obama had the courage to be a liberal throughout his career and didn't have to change himself when he ran for President in the Democratic primary.

[RaleighNCDUer]

43. Of course, during his senate years Edwards was representing

a purple state. His moderate positions reflected the moderate nature of his constituency.

But never mind that.

[Radical Activist]

44. So he compromised his values to pander to North Carolina voters

Please tell me how I'm supposed to know he won't do that again.

[RaleighNCDUer]

45. Uh, voting the way your constituency wants you to vote

is in the job description.

The problem people round here had with him was not that he voted wrong, but that during his campaigning he was somewhat less attentive to his elected office - and that was not a charge brought by his supporters, as a whole, but his dectactors and so of questionable value.

[JDPriestly]

59. People change. Assuming you are correct, and Edwards

has become more liberal over time (an assumption on my part for the sake of discussion), then that is a very, very good sign. People commonly become more conservative over time. Obama, for example is very young and could become considerably more conservative as he ages. That Edwards is becoming more liberal suggests that his liberal ideas are based not on a youthful rebelliousness but on careful thought.

As an older person, it is my experience that we become more conservative as we age -- but not if we stay young at heart. Edwards has always fought for underdogs.

Obama is, in my opinion, a set-up. Obama has negatives we know nothing about. He has not been tested. Obama is a very risky candidate. Hillary is an establishment candidate. Edwards is the real thing.

[Pastiche423]

54. He began campaigning two years before the end of his term

[dkofos]

48. So did bush

[Hutzpa]

11. YES.....

Mitt Romney, Rudy 9ui11ani, John Mccain and Mike Huckleberry.

it goes on, changing positions, its an 'Amoeba effect'

[bunkerbuster1]

13. They mighta heered he dun went to a MOOZLEM skool too.

Oh NOES!

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Chicago Sun-times....the RW rag. Great source you have there and oh so fair to Democrats.

Who gives a crap what the repukes say? They'll hate ANY Democratic candidate. Barack is a good man.

[iconoclastic cat]

Actually, the Sun Times is not at all a RW rag.

From Editor and Publisher via Chicago Indymedia:

http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/78524/index.php

Chicago Sun-Times' Looks to Redefine Itself as 'Liberal, Working-Class' Paper
Author


By Mark Fitzgerald, Editor and Publisher
Published: July 10, 2007 12:29 PM ET

CHICAGO The Chicago Sun-Times is turning left.

The tabloid that shifted toward political conservatism under the brief ownership of Rupert Murdoch more than two decades ago now says that it is "rethinking our stance on several issues, including the most pressing issue facing Americans today: Bush's war in Iraq."

(more)

[truebrit71]

26. They endorsed Lt Cokespoon in 2000....and I haven't touched that rag since...

...I won't even use in my fireplace...

[iconoclastic cat]

32. And it hurt them badly in circulation. They shaped up. nt

[truebrit71]

33. We shall see....

...(it's still a rag though... ;-))

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. Do they still employ Bob Novak?

Just askin'.

[iconoclastic cat]

39. Yeah, I know! What's that about? nt

[Clinton Crusader]

16. I believe I heard this when HRC was running

for the Senate.

Oh she's just using this as a springboard, she'll never serve out her first term, she'll serve only a teeny bit then run in 04. She did serve out her first term, did not run, and ran for her second term, won and is still serving. But I don't hear all those naysayers now. I'm not on a soapbox defending her, she's my second choice. But you say ANYTHING negative about Obama and you get beaten up. Point out ANYTHING positive about HRC and you get beaten up.

I feel like I'm in bizarro world.

And I've about had enough of hearing on NBC and elsewhere that Obama has suddenly morphed into Bobby Kennedy. I actually find it offensive, as a huge admirer of RFK. If anyone sounds even remotely like Bobby Kennedy it's John Edwards.

This is the strangest primary I've ever witnessed.
:crazy:

[AX10]

31. I agree with you.

Edwards is the only one who sounds anything like RFK. Obama is full of himself.
The fact is that the far left has as much hate for the Clinton's as the far right.
If the Obamites were serious about bringing the drastic changes they desire, they would rally behind John Edwards. They all latched onto an empty suit who sounds and makes them feel good because that suit is the main opponent to HRC.

[Clinton Crusader]

58. I LOVE you AX10!

You hit the nail right on it's proverbial head!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'b been afraid for my life to say it but you said it! I find Obama to be an empty suit who has said not one damn thing to me. His speeches are flowery hyperbole to me that don't really say anything when you break them down except "I'm not Hillary".

If ANYONE is the reincarnation of Bobby it's John Edwards. Talking about the poor, the left out, the uninsured, the disenfranchised, the middle class who can't pay their bills, can't save any money, can't plan for the future, can't save for retirement, can't have life insurance or health insurance. Where is all this chat from Obama? And I've made a point of listening to what all this hysteria is about and I STILL don't know!

I apologize in advance and I fear of getting flamed beyond recognition, but I don't understand all this mania, I just don't. I'm afraid this is going to turn out like the end of the movie "The Candidate" when Robert Redford wins and then they say "now what?".

I'm not a huge supporter of Hillary, she's my second choice, but I find her much more qualified. John Edwards is the person for this job, IMHO.

But hey, what the hell do I know?

I think much of this Obama mania is fueled by Hillary hatred, which I still say is misguided and not clearly thought through.

[robbedvoter]

17. I'll never fall in love again! eat this much! Party all night - change of plans...

Is it really more serious than sponsoring IWR, apologizing for merely voting for it, starting a new war(or at least paying it lip service after being "anti-war")
.He changed his plans! devastating!

[babylonsister]

18. Oh please. Is there anyone here who wouldn't work for a promotion

if they could? This is b.s. If that's all ya got, good.

[OzarkDem]

19. My same fear - Obama will fold to MSM and GOP

I still say he's another candidate who wants to be GOP in his heart, but knew he could only win if he ran as a Dem.

He admires and respects GOP'ers and corporate leaders far, far more than he admires the Dem party or Dem voters.

If he is elected, he will cater to their every whim.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

23. I don't think Obama is the folding type

[weeve]

21. I tend to agree

Plus he's for nuclear and coal energy ( sorry Al Gore ), tight with Archer Daniels Midland, etc.

Big Media want's him bad ( at least to be the NOMINEE ), which after they took down Gore, Dean, Kerry - while enabling Bush ... kinda makes you ummm, wonder.

[Hutzpa]

22. I suppose, you will cross the street

when you see him grabbing your handbag and walking fast right....c'mon now....right!!





:hi:

[truebrit71]

25. Ahh I see...so if you say something on Press the Meat you are duty bound to stick to it forever...

...because Tim Russturd says so...

I don't think so...

This is an example of why Timmie is a shit interviewer, and why people should call him everytime he tries this gotcha bullshit...

But way to buy into the reich-wing spin though...:eyes:

[cooolandrew]

28. I have watched Barack fairly coseand at that time yes he wasn't runningl He was persuaded...

...Gore would of changed his mind too had he nothad a negative experience in 2000.

[cooolandrew]

29. I have watched Barack fairly close and at that time yes he wasn't running. He was persuaded...

...Gore would of changed his mind too had he not had a negative experience in 2000.

[donheld]

30. Some of you people are just really unbelievable

That's probably the worst reason not to believe someone I've heard in a long time. Get a life.

[rucky]

35. People aren't going to quit supporting him becasue of this.

They're glad he reconsidered.

No damage has been done as a result - except maybe to his opponents.

[Alexander]

36. Bill Clinton said the same thing in 1990. Why do you give him a free pass?

[cali]

40. haha

moronic and lame attack #2,796. Yeah, that'll work.

I'll stick with Obama. Thanks for your "concern".

:hi:

[Tiberius]

41. NEWSFLASH... they all say the same thing!!!!

ALL politicians say the exact same thing. This is the lamest attack I've seen on DU in, well, the last 15 minutes.

LOL.

[alarimer]

42. Me neither. An empty suit full of pretty words.

I am so fucking sick of the "rockstar" attitude towards towards him. I cannot stand the guy.

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. I don't like him much either. "rockstar" His ego is huge. And why not?

The corporate owned news is feeding it.

[csorman]

47. Wellstone also said he wouldn't run for a 3rd term

So are the haters going to judge him with the same vitriol and nonsense? C'mon, people - folks say they won't run ALL THE TIME and then decide they will. And now, OMG we're being LIED TO! I mean geez, people make it sound like this is worse than some of W's bullshit. The freepers are just going to eat this shit up - inter-party mudslinging is just fuel for their hate-machines.

[judaspriestess]

49. oh geez people are allowed to change their minds

Things are not all they are cracked up to be in the senate it seems. this is next to the last reason why I won't vote for him.

[Terran]

50. Weak n/t

[mdmc]

51. ha ha

[Snarkturian Clone]

52. I remember that MTP

and I remember saying "I thought he wasn't running!!" when the time came. Glad I was just imagining things.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. He wasn't lying.

He will serve out his six year term in the Senate and President Hillary Clinton will campaign from him for his re-election in 2010.

[Nailzberg]

56. So if Gore jumped in the race, you wouldn't support him either. I'll mark that down.

Just checking.

[Justice Is Comin]

57. If Gore was in this race,

I'd quit my job to work for him in every state, for nothing.

I'm very unhappy with him for not being our President. It would be a blow out. All he had to do was say the words--"yes, I'm running."

[Cha]

61. Yeah, please do

stick to it.

[Canuckistanian]

62. Obama - I wouldn't trust him to shave my hamster with a rusty razor.

See? I could make nonsense OP's as well.

I choose NOT to.