I don't give a flying fuck who wins the Democratic nomination.

[WilliamPitt]

I don't support any one candidate.

I support all of them.

My girlfriend has Multiple Sclerosis. Bush has vetoed seven bills while in office, five of which have been health-care related, and three of which directly affect modern science's ability to treat and fucking destroy this goddam disease in her body.

Every GOP candidate appears perfectly ready to continue such a trend if they win, because every GOP candidate needs the "Snowflake Baby"/anti-choice idiotic GOP base to win.

Every Democratic candidate, armed with a friendly congressional majority, will reverse that murderous anti-science trend if they win.

All of them.

So you hepcats can brawl about crying and black people and corporations and the price of houses. That's cool.

Don't expect me to take it seriously, though. None of that has anything to do with making sure my girlfriend doesn't wake up blind or paralyzed someday because no MS cure has been found due to right-wing political nonsense.

Therefore, I don't give a fuck.

Today is my girlfriend's birthday. I'm taking her out to a nice dinner (seafood, her favorite), then out with friends for the night, then home to bed. If she wakes up tomorrow still able to see and walk, that's a good day, and that's what I live for.

(part II of this reasoning is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2629949 ...that's for the partisans on DU)

End transmission.

[helderheid]

1. Amen, Brother Will!

:yourock:

[SteppingRazor]

2. I can't believe you would actually support that bigot Obama, or that closet conservative Clinton.

:popcorn:

[PVnRT]

46. Don't forget John "Gordon Gecko" Edwards, tool of Wall Street

[melody]

3. Any Democrat in a storm

Same thing here.

[driver8]

4. I feel the same way.

It is getting to the point where I hate to visit DU because of all of the bullshit threads and name calling.

Whoever our candidate is, I am voting for that person.

Whoever our candidate is, he/she will be a whole lot better than that sack of shit we have for a pResident now.

[Bicoastal]

5. Boo! Boo! Enough of this lame-ass "solidarity..."

...where has that ever gotten us! More acrimony! More divisiveness! More bitterness!

And to get serious, I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend's MS--I knew a girl who had it and nearly went broke trying to pay her hospital bills and insurance premiums...and you better believe she's angry about Bush caring more about stem cells than her entire 25-year existence.

[spanone]

6. all politics are local....so to speak

i'm with you, these anti-science sons of bitches MUST go

[DemReadingDU]

Right on!

Let's just get one of the Dems in office for President!

:)

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. I'm with you, buddy

It's. All. About. Policy.

[DinahMoeHum]

8. "The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better

than the best Republikkkan..."

(Repeat the above mantra as often as necessary)


:kick::kick::kick:

[bookman]

77. I agree.

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

"The worst Democrat among the candidates is still a thousand times better
than the best Republikkkan..."

[watercolors]

9. As long as bush is gone , I'm happy!

We have some great candidates, still trying to make a choice between two. I will be happy with anyone of them

[demnan]

10. I am so sorry about your girl friend

What a devasting horrible disease to afflict a young person. My niece is Type 1 diabetic, so we are basically in the same boat, except she can be treated.

I really feel the same way. We have to win this, and we have to take in as many Democratic Senators and Congressmen as possible.

I fear voter fraud far more than the success of any candidate. We have to do something to prevent it from happening again. Their side doesn't play fair.

[WilliamPitt]

She can be cured

if islet-cell stem cell research is allowed to go forth.

There are only 400,000 people with MS in America. 10x that have diabetes.

So yeah. :hug:

[tavalon]

78. And given that you mentioned islet cells, I'm guessing she's one of the unlucky diabetics

not that having MS is any kind of walk in the park. I agree with you, any of our currect crop will do okay, and we in the peanut gallery have learned a valuable lesson from Clinton one. We do not take down the infrastructor. We are going to be theri pain in the ass little tinkerbelles for the rest of their fucking live long day.

[NewJeffCT]

11. Freeper!

just kidding.

You need to stop being so clear-minded and logical about these things - it's not a Democratic primary if we don't have a circular firing squad every day.

[predfan]

12. I think that's one thing the media is missing.........

there are millions of us out here who really do see value in all three of the major Democratic candidates, and can support the winner. Regardless of the media's preferences, who among us will fail to vote Democratic at the end of the day, regardless of nominee?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. so sorry to hear of your girlfriend's illness

My husband was finally diagnosed with Myastenia Gravis, but for a while they wondered if he had MS or ALS. Hope she can get to a doc who does cutting edge research and will take payments, like my doc does.

[EFerrari]

14. I care more about how they'll try to steal it than who wins it.

But I don't pretend that I don't care who wins.

It would be nice to be able to see a doctor or a dentist, though.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Pretty much what we are all worried about, I suspect. How will they steal it, yet again.

Because we all know that they are working on that, even as we go to the polls to vote in the primaries. :banghead:

[EFerrari]

50. We're more readyt this time out.

And, we can be even more ready, still.

:hi:

[SammyWinstonJack]

61. Oh I hope so! I really do!

:hi:

[phantom power]

15. Hear, Hear. I'm voting "not batshit insane" in 08.

[CorpGovActivist]

16. Will: A Good Friend Has MassGeneral's (MGH's) Red Phone...

... on auto-immune disorders. I'd be happy to put you in contact.

MS sucks. Happy Birthday to your girlfriend, and a toast to auto-immune cures and advances.

:toast:

- Dave

[saracat]

Sorry Will.All Democrasts are NOT created equal and as far as I can see

not all of them will fight for Universal healthcare.Only Edwards seems willing to fight for Patients Rights and healthcare.And only Edwards seems willing to fight for the poor and the Middle Class.

I want to support someone who is pledged to real people and only one of our viable Democrats fits the bill. All our Dems may be fine people but only one seems to genuinely want to represent the interests of the people and have a plan to do sio.Just my two cents.

[King Coal]

66. She's gotcha there Will.

[MelissaB]

17. I don't give a flying fuck, either.

There are things to love/dislike about all of them. There are too many important issues that have been on the backburner.

Get me a damn Democrat in there!

[Mythsaje]

18. Right. I have said so myself.

I think Edwards is most on target with the problems we face, but ANY of them would be a vast improvement over the Nitwit-In-Chief we have now.

[pacalo]

31. But will they get *elected*, is the issue that concerns me.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Me too. "if they win." And there it is.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. I hear ya!

[Sydnie]

20. Will, I never took you for a single issue voter.

If they will all support the legislation that will open up the possibilities of a cure, then why not look for a candidate that can address some of your other concerns too?

I don't get it. :shrug:

[WilliamPitt]

24. Because most everything else is a pipe-dream

You know this is true:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/WilliamPitt/391

If you don't, you need to.

Tangible progress is attractive if it keeps my love out of a wheelchair.

Sorry.

[Ghost in the Machine]

21. I may not support them, but i will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is

this november. sitting out and not voting is NOT an option. period. those who don't vote have no voice to bitch with, as far as i'm concerned. they can stfu for 4 years until it's time to vote again, and if they don't vote again, they can stfu for another 4 years. and so on... and so on... and so on....

best of luck to you and yours, Will...

PEACE!

Ghost

[tnlefty]

22. Please wish her a Happy Birthday!

:toast:

The Snowflake baby/anti-choice idiotic GOP base is exactly that and I hope they get kicked to the curb.

[mzmolly]

23. I agree. And, Happy Birthday to your girlfriend.

May we usher in a new/much improved era!

[The Straight Story]

25. I've never had a flying fuck, nor have I ever given one -how does that work?

Do you need a running start, an airplane,...?

:)

[WilliamPitt]

27. A rolling donut and a gravel driveway are best.

:)

[The Straight Story]

28. I'll run that by the wife

:rofl:

[Fovea]

89. I believe the songs will help us here.

"Jump" (for my love)
"Up, Up, and Away"(would you like to ride)
"Fly me to the moon"

[Lucinda]

40. Think "harness"

:)

[opusprime]

26. Quit your complaining...

and get a health savings account!

That way you can save on taxes before you pay all your medical costs out of pocket and declare Bankruptcy, which wont help you because Chap 13 no longer gives you relief from debt(just cost you more in service and legal fees).

Oh, and if you dont get the sarcasm organically... :sarcasm:

Stay away from the Oysters this time of year!

[PATRICK]

29. I do care who wins

but not enough to join the sad parade of suckers who let the devil in because their favorite saint got short robed by someone more plaid than white. Let the GOP do their own dirty work. Whoever wins the grass roots or populist challenge is fundamentally the same and behind the eight ball. It would be better to believe in our hope itself for a change and get real about AFTER we get in and really get moving.

The Obama phenom or the Edwards grassfire or anything that gets the people moving is greater than the public servant who gets the nod. If we are to participate in what we believe in make it real together not really irrelevant. I said that before. If Hillary wins and Hillary foes want to win the real objective get out there and make it known they owe the doers of her success. Make your plans to get on the ground now and you won't be such a victim of fan disappointment or establishment letdowns. Become the power and the establishment and give the noise a rest. That's just squirrels in a cage.

[Midlodemocrat]

30. I'm sorry about your girlfriend, Will. I hope she has a wonderful birthday

and you guys are able to enjoy a nice evening. :hug:

[shaniqua6392]

32. She is lucky to have you Will.

Happy Birthday to her and may this be the year for a cure. Whichever Dem gets in does not matter to me either. Whoever it is will feel the pressure from the American people who are sick to death of the way things have been under these "compassionate conservatives" who have killed so many. We will demand that the Dems get this shit done and the American people will see to it that they will push through some of the issues that we have been longing for, including stem cell research. My thoughts and prayers go out to you both. Blessings and peace.

[fed-up]

33. my sis has had MS for 20 years-currently living a sustainable life in Belize

she has good and bad times but focuses mostly on taking each day as it comes

have you emailed her yet?

[WilliamPitt]

34. Not yet

But I fully intend to.

:hug:

[Fading Captain]

36. Yawn

way to waste 60 seconds of my time.

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. ...

:yoiks:

[WilliamPitt]

41. Sorry about that.

Hope nobody ever gets sick in your family.

Seriously. It sucks.

[Fading Captain]

54. I am sorry. I did not mean it that way.

And I do hope you are sincere about that.
Because I am.

But for you to suggest that our choice of nominee does not matter is asinine.

[PVnRT]

43. You know, you mispelled the second word in your user name

[11 Bravo]

53. Classy post.

As a rule, DU probably has a lower percentage of assholes than your average internet forum, but obviously, there is no airtight filter.

[Fading Captain]

55. What's Classy about his post? Belittling the struggle to save the Democractic Party?

People are out there fighting to make sure that the Dems elect a candidate who won't cave into corporate lobbiest. And he's denigrating their work.


For me, it's simple. Nominate someone willing to fight the corporate establishment, or vote for another party.

There are people on these boards who are battling for the soul of this party.

Many of us see Clinton as THE ENEMY WITHIN.

So, understand, from our point of view, when you come on this board and tell us that our battle is pointless, well, get don't expect a warm welcome.

[King Coal]

68. He's gotcha there Bravo.

[blondeatlast]

58. How fortunate for you that no issue has ever hit close to home with you. I'm very involved in

Pitt's issue and have been for 10 fucking years and I'm damn tired of waiting to get my pancreas working again. The promise is real for me and for Will's girlfriend.

My left eye gave up the wait already and my heart and brain (I've had a TIA) are pretty fucking tired of it too.

[Fading Captain]

59. So how is letting a corporcrat, funded by insurance companies

going to help you?

Your damn fucking right that our choice matters.

[blondeatlast]

62. Because I'm firmly convinced that another RRRepublican won't.

I'd rather have some health plan that none at all, some increase in stem-cell funding and prodduction than a complete block.

Again, it must be lovely not to have an emotional issue NOT hit close to home. I wish to hell I had that luxury.

My guy's dropped out of the race, but any one of ours is an improvement over any one of theirs--and then some.

[Fading Captain]

65. We disagree -- and don't act like you're the only person with issues

An improvement (a little less for the war, a little less for big pharma, a little less for the health care industru) isn't enough.

We need an overhaul in the way American government functions.

I am tickled pink that we have a serious candidate (Edwards) talking the talk. It means I don't have abandon the party and support a Nader candidacy.

And don't talk to me like you have any idea about my family, and my friends, and my life.

Just because I don't broadcast my "heartbreak" to make a political point doesn't mean I don't have a personal stake in the outcome of the election.

[blondeatlast]

69. FWIW, I'm an Edwards supporter now myself.

I agree that we need radical change but I'm in need of some improvement NOW. I simply can't risk another 4 years of a RRRepublican administration. I'm hurting--and I don't "broadcast" my hurts lightly, you'll have to believe me or don't.

I've been fighting on the frontlines for SCR and UHC since long before '04 but I'm a realist. For me, ANY change in Washington is better than none, so the Democratic candidate will get my vote even if I have to hold my nose.

[Nailzberg]

37. Right on, bro!

[debbierlus]

42. Wonderful. We can now be just like the sheeple Republicans

Corporations change their flavor & we fall in line.

[WilliamPitt]

45. Well, you do a fair job of it

by making no sense.

[Rex]

44. I posted something like this last month and got crucified for it.

Evidently if you don't support ONE candidate, you are wishy washy and welcome HRC and her corporate machine to rule your world! :sarcasm:

[Patiod]

47. I'm a Brown Dog Democrat - I'd vote for my mother's weiner dog

before I'd vote for a Republican right now. We can't afford another 4 years of Republicans, and we Can't afford any more Republican Supreme Court Nominees

Sorry for shouting, but I keep reminding my Dem friends that no matter WHO is the nominee, we have to get behind them 100%.

[walldude]

48. Just give me my fucking candidate already...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2610952

While I'm a bit more cynical than Will the sentiment is basically the same..

[Terran]

49. I'm with you Will

I remember primary season '04 at DU very well, and this is just as bad, and every bit as big a waste of energy.

[VelmaD]

51. I am continually amazed...

by how often our brains run in the same direction. I am stunned by how little I care about this primary season. Any of them is fine...none of them make me at all excited.

Hug your girlfriend for me and tell her happy birthday. :hug:

[leftofthedial]

52. have a good dinner

my best to you and your girlfriend

and to EVERY Democrat in the general election

[mmonk]

56. Have a wonderful dinner and happy birthday to your girlfriend.

We will stop the anti-science madness.

[King Coal]

70. He's gotcha there Will.

[Danger Mouse]

57. I'm no Hillary supporter, but even she would be a thousand times better than

a knuckle-dragging repug.
I have no use for fools who refuse to support our nominee, no matter how much you dislike them.

[Blue_Roses]

60. there are so many

diseases that can be cured with modern science. It's way past the time for them to be implemented. I often think about Christopher Reeves and his hard work for spinal cord injuries. What a blessing that would have been if it could have happened while he was alive. It's ridiculous how long this has been blocked.

I'm so sorry to hear about your girlfriend. I watched old boyfriend suffer with that horrible disease. He was a fireman and to not be able to work in what he loved began the slow demise of his spirit.

Hang in there...it's just a matter of time...:)

[WillyT]

63. Recipe For A Flying Fuck:

1 1/2 oz Jack Daniel's® Tennessee whiskey
1 1/2 oz Sambuca

Stir ingredients together in an old-fashioned glass, and serve.

Link: http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink9175.html





:rofl:

:hi:

[0007]

85. LOL!!

The Flying Fuck at a rolling donut center.

[live love laugh]

88. That's the first time I've actually SEEN one. ROFL! eom

[flashl]

64. Have a good dinner and break.

I too support all of them.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

67. Blessings and Love to you both Will

May the change at 1600 bring a better tomorrow. :hi: :loveya: :pals:

[bigtree]

71. at the very least, we'll get the stem cell research out of bondage with a Dem in

. . . and a president who will sign and advance our efforts will make all of the difference in the world to such research. Terrible lot, MS. Sorry you ggod folks have to suffer through this disease. I can see the frustration and anguish in your posts on this, made all the more aggravating (I imagine) by republican demagogues and industry obstructionists. Hopefully we see more of a focus on health care further along the way.

[live love laugh]

72. THANK YOU. I am tired of the BS. n/t

[lonestarnot]

73. Well I have a preference but that doesn't mean shit now does it?

[ismnotwasm]

74. Yup

I don't pick between them, right now, I want the horror of the repukes to stop.

By the way Mr. Pitt, my husband has MS and we've been together for 17 years, thick and thin. I love that man. Best wishes to you and your girlfriend.

[Political Heretic]

75. No one cares Will.

You don't give a fuck? That's nice. No one cares.

The rest of us do give a "fuck" - because this is the primary. It is the time, and it is the place to fight for exactly, and precisely, who you feel will make the BEST possible leader for this country. It's not the time or place to just sit around and say, "hey, any candidate will do."

I've only been around a short time, and already I am sick of your posts. Do you realize that just about the only thing you post is an endless stream of finger-wagging arrogant condescending posts lecturing everyone else on how they should act or think? Who are you again and why are you relevant? Oh you wrote a couple books. Then you would think you'd be capable of acting more like a grownup. Your ego stroking lecture posts are really tiring me out already.

[Le Taz Hot]

84. Wait.

:popcorn: OK.

[lebkuchen]

76. As my state's time draws near to vote

I've been checking on which dem candidate is less beholden to a medical industry who donates money to them. That and Iraq are my top two decision maker-breaker issues.

[Raffi Ella]

79. I hear ya' Will

I hear ya!Frankly I'm too excited about the sheer number of voters out voting for Dems to let the grumpies on D.U. get me down with their bullshit today.

To Our Party :toast:

[truebrit71]

80. Sorry Will, but I do care which candidate wins...

..that's the whole point of the process...

Some represent the past, and others represent the future...I have no interest in going back in time..

[lumberjack_jeff]

81. Hey, it was my birthday too.

My brother in law has MS, and although it's no basket of roses, he's doing pretty well. The meds are horribly expensive, but the effects of the disease are somewhat manageable.

Tell her that the ghost of Elvis, David Bowie and Lumberjack_jeff, (fellow sharers of her birthday) tell her to keep her chin up.

:hi:

[lancer78]

82. I disagree with you

because if Hillary "Chernobyl" Clinton wins the nomination, there is a very good chance we will lose the general election. I know some people here don't like to hear it, and that think that KKKarl Rove is a liar, but on this one point I think he is correct. Hillary HAS one of the highest percentage of people who would never vote for her ever. And it is not just all republicans. A lot of Dems and Indies won't vote for her because of her initial support for the Iraq War and for her saying that torture is sometimes necessary.

[CoffeeCat]

83. I've grown weary of other Democrats...

...positioning fellow Democrats as vacuous, non-team-oriented flibbertigibbets--if they
strongly support the views and stances of ONE Dem candidate OR reject the views of one
or some of the Dem candidates.

It's really unfair and a bit self serving.

We've all got our VALID reasons for feeling the way we do, and supporting the candidates that
we do. It's called Democracy.

My central issue is concern that the foundation laid by our Founding Fathers is being bulldozed.
Our Constitution is being treated as an optional after-thought by our current leaders. I want
my children to grow up in a democracy, and if we don't have our Constitution in place--we have absolutely
nothing.

Does this make me better than someone who likes Edwards because he's going after corporate corruption?
Does that make me superior to Richardson supporters who want to end this war now?

No it doesn't. If you support ALL Dem candidate--because of a personal issue, that's valid too.

However, so is being against a Dem candidate...or two...or three.

It's my opinion that Hillary Clinton--based on her votes and her own words--is a proponent of war. She
has used her power as a NY Senator on the Armed Services Committee--to widen the neocon war plan. She's
remained silent on illegal wiretapping and the erosion of our civil rights--and has not called for the closing
of Guantanamo or the restoration of Habeas Corpus--one of our fundamental rights as Americans!

Am I a lesser-than because I hold these views? Because I refuse to hop in the Democratic tent and pretend
that Democrats, aren't in on the fix? Sorry. I can't capitulate because I'm being pressured to go along.

If we lose our democracy---we have no framework under which we can fight for the issues which are most
important to Democrats, including: Education, women's rights, stem-cell research, the mortgage crisis,
climate change, free trade, healthcare, the falling dollar, poverty, Social Security, our standing in the
world, national security, etc., etc.

I respect all of the unique, highly personalized reasons for being in this fight. However, I don't respect fellow
Democrats who urge me to ignore the fall of our Constitution and the erosion of our Democracy--all in the
name of getting along.

[WilliamPitt]

86. Just for shits and giggles

Now that the primary wars are officially in full effect...

As I write this, my girlfriend is in the living room watching Sicko for the first time. Seems a good time for a thread-kick.

[donheld]

87. Exactly

We must win this!!!!1!!!!