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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:13 PM
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Time To MAKE A NOISE --- Message to Barack Obama DO NOT CONCEED 'TIL THE VOTES ARE COUNTED
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:13 PM by althecat
..... come on ... lets say it loud and clear. I am sick to death of this shit.

:bounce:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:13 PM
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1. Nobody is conceding anything
Why would you even think that?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:15 PM
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2. Wouldn't that be kind of "sour grapes" to a supposed double digit winner
Obama lost the expectations game badly tonite, get over it. Don't dwell on it.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:23 PM
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5. There is no shame in finding out for certain who won this election ---- I DO NOT TRUST DIEBOLD....
Recounting this race would be

1. Possible (for 30%+ of the vote in the next election it will BE IMPOSSIBLE).

If the count is spot on. Great.

A recount will among other things serve as a reminder to those who might be inclined to steal an election that they CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. At the moment - after Ohio - they have every reason to think that they can get away with this sort of thing.

To willfully close your mind to the possibility of vote fraud in the current circumstances is grossly irresponsible - and to be clear - naieve and luddite.

Goodnight.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 PM
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19. Sour grapes?
that's naive...

Listen - with Diebold counting a high percentage of the votes and a big swing from recent polls, anyone with any sense of recent election history should question this election. I don't care if it's your candidate that won or lost. It's smart to be skeptical of any election with these qualities.

I wanted democracy to win tonight...not a particular candidate.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:16 PM
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3. Counted and Audited.
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Dnesh Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:17 PM
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4. 3 big college counties not in yet
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:30 PM
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6. The numbers are out by miles from the polls.... "US Pollsters Fail Again" should be headline...
.. tomorrow.
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7 of 11 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:33 PM
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7. What is happening is that the Hilary supporters are out in force
The sat it out and stayed home in Iowa but no more.

Wait till Super-Duper Tuesday and we almost certainly will see who represents our party.
I have nothing against Obama but one thing. WHAT ARE HIS CREDENTIALS? Two years in the Senate and pretty speeches? The Texan for hell has left this nation in pretty bad shape and we cant afford someone with such a weak resume right now. With all the repukes out in fantasy land( like always*sigh*) We need someone with Hillary's connections and strengths to lead us out of the NEOCON dark ages once more.


HOWEVER, I would love to see Obama as VP or SEC-of-State so he can get some experience at world affairs. He would make an awesome President some day

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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:46 PM
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9. Welcome to DU....
Why not count the votes?

Why trust a computer company who we know have lied to us about the security of their voting systems?

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:02 PM
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16. I am seeing Hillary with more presidential potential
She is one strong woman.

....and I am an Edwards supporter.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:45 PM
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8. Does Hillary Clinton's cousin work for Associated Press :)
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:50 PM
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12. Haha. Good one. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:48 PM
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10. There's an excellent activist network there. Watch this:
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM
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11. Agreed!!!!!!! Me thinks something stinks in N.H.!!!!!
Come on - Exit polls said (like Kerry) that Obama was 4 points ahead!!!!!!

Diebold strikes again????????????:dilemma:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:51 PM
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13. O. is on cspan 1 now Congratulating Hil.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:59 PM
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14. I am fine with either of them winning but it sure is odd that EVERY POLL was wrong
It's very strange.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:02 PM
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15. YES WE CAN!..... Obama doesn't need a recount - All he needs to do is talk!
WOW...
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:03 PM
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17. Yes that is a concession :) ... be nice to have a recount mind.....
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:03 PM
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18. Obama needs a recount. Sorry... nt.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:09 PM
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20. I wonder how many kids voted?
in the past you could never count on the young ones to actually show up...it will be interesting to see what happened in NH.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 PM
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21. Secret vote counting in NH Primary - "Scoop" Coverage K*R


In General Discussion - "Scoop" – ALL Diebold, All the Time – It's the NH Primary

Here's something to keep in mind, whichever primary you're looking at. Democracy has been
outsourced to electronic voting firms who provide the machines, service them, and sometimes, as in
NH, count a large portion of the votes. It's time to take democracy back and open up voting and
vote counting for all citizens to see.



Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm

ALL Diebold, ALL the Time
It's the New Hampshire Primary



Image Credit

"1st in the Nation" with Corporate Controlled,
Secret Vote Counting


By Nancy Tobi
Democracy for
New Hampshire

Introduction: The more things stay the same, the worse they smell

By Michael Collins
http://www.scoop.co.nz/sections/comment.html">"Scoop" Independent News
Washington, D.C.

Tomorrow's New Hampshire primary represents a major turning point in the presidential primaries. We've got the rising star of Obama, the stunned Clinton camp, and the populist efforts of the fast moving Democrat, John Edwards, just off a 9% increase in the national polls. At this juncture, the Republican race is less compelling unless you happen to be John McCain or Mitt Romney.

Does Obama's highly favorable corporate media image stack up against reality? Is this the end of Hillary, or at least the beginning of the end? Can Edwards kick in the door with a strong showing and demand coverage? Will Ron Paul embarrass Giuliani by edging him out for fourth?

We'll never know for sure.

(Article Continues)

In General Discussion - "Scoop" – ALL Diebold, All the Time – It's the NH Primary

Link to Original Article in "Scoop": http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm


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