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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:45 PM
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Poll question: Should Edwards drop out and throw his support to Obama to stop Hillary?
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM by Freddie Stubbs
Edwards finished a distant third in NH and is fading in SC. It is becoming apparent that he cannot win.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:47 PM
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1. I think Obama and Edwards should annonce a joint ticket
NOW... before any more primaries.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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10. Edwards/Obama sound good to me
Given Edwards is the most progressive.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 PM
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19. given my druthers I'd choose Kucinich/Edwards...
but Dennis doesn't stand a chance in hell.
Sadly I don't think John is any more likely to win the primary than Dennis.

Whether you like him or loathe him, there is little doubt that of the two Obama is the orator.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:28 AM
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38. I'll take that...nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:48 PM
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30. That would be formidable, but who would be at the top of the ticket?
:shrug:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM
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2. I think Hillary should drop out
and throw her support to Edwards to stop Obama.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:49 PM
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3. Why would she do that after her stunning win in NH?
:shrug:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:51 PM
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5. For the good of America. nt
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 PM
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24. I think for the good of America
you should hush.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:20 PM
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28. It would seem a lot of NH voters do not agree with that assessment
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:10 AM
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37. AMEN to that!
:bounce:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:50 PM
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4. There's not enough difference between Obama and Clinton for Edwards to sacrifice his voice in this
election.

His message NEEDS to be heard, no matter how these primaries go.

He's the ONLY non-corporatist amongst the front runners. He needs to go as long as possible.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:15 AM
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33. So, a majority like the Obama/Clinton message and reject Edwards' message?
:shrug:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:36 AM
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34. Aided greatly by a corporate media that aggressively protects itself from Edwards message, yes. n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:53 AM
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40. Americans have access to more information than ever
Most cable providers have three or more news channels, and the Internet is a vast source of information. Couple that with all of the TV commercials, radio ads, phone calls, and mailers which the campaigns are responsible for.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:52 PM
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6. Two fucking states
"It is becoming apparent that he cannot win." I heartily disagree.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:13 PM
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22. Amen, shadow!
I'm thoroughly sick and tired of calls for ANY candidate to drop out after just TWO STATES have caucused/voted. :grr:

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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 AM
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32. OP is thumbing his nose at Edwards supporters
Did it with Kucinich supporters also.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:26 PM
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47. What states can he win?
:shrug:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:52 PM
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7. You think Edwards supporters will go to Hillary?
Man, there are some VERY delusional people on this board.
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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8. Yeah, delusional enough to think Edwards
still has a chance
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:11 AM
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62. No, I suspect that they are more likely to go to Obama
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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9. Keep dreaming
Edwards is the most qualified person in a race that has just begun.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:53 PM
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11. YES. For the greater good nothing could be more important than defeating Clinton.
This is a struggle between corporatist power and populism. If Clinton wins, we're looking at nothing less than another decade of bleeding Americans at the expense of the oligarchy.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 PM
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26. That is total nonsense. Have some Koolaid and put on your tinfoil hat. nt
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:18 AM
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53. When will a Clinton supporter come out and support welfare, public housing, and reregulation
or hobbling of the industry cartels her husband deregulated in the 1990s?

Hmmmm?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:27 AM
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61. Better yet, when will a Clinton supporter ever . . . EVER . . . refute this:
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 07:27 AM by HughBeaumont
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

STILL unapologetically Free Trade. And you all think it's because she's a WOMAN? So is Carly Fiorina. Bad positions are bad positions. Doesn't matter WHICH bathroom you go to.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:54 PM
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12. not no...
Hell no! :eyes:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:54 PM
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13. he's staying in for the long haul, we got 48 states to go!!
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:57 PM
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14. Hell no. (n/t)
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:59 PM
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15. Apparent how? Because of New Hampshire and a freaking Iowa caucus??
:eyes:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:03 PM
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16. Where is he going to win? He can't get the nomination without winning some states
:shrug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:04 PM
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17. Not only no, but HELL no. n/t
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:04 PM
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18. Fuck no. He owes it to his supporters to fight, even if it's futile. -n/t
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:14 PM
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23. So New Hampshire and Iowa are the only States
that get to vote? I guess the rest of us should forget about voting from now on.:banghead:
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:24 PM
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29. Well, everyone gets to vote, but the party makes the decision at the convention, which is before...
...half of the primaries. This isn't a democracy, it's a corrupted republic, and the power brokers will tell you what you're supposed to be concerned about.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:07 PM
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20. No freaking way....
I don't care what the MSM says it's a 3 way race after only 1 state caucus and 1 primary. Edwards has the support because he's got the right ideas. I'm not about to count him out yet.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 PM
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25. OP is rubbing it in to Edwards supporters
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 PM by kingofalldems
He's been doing the same with Kucinich people here. IMO, he is NOT one of us. Disregard this stupid poll.
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:12 PM
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21. WHen Obama show's he's a fighter and not an appeaser
I'd think about it
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:18 PM
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27. I'm an Obama Supporter..
And I say HELL NO! Edwards should stay in and fight for the nomination as long as he can.. he owes votes to no one, and frankly - I don't think all of his voters would just fly over to Obama anyway. A lot of them like Hillary as well - so it wouldn't necessarily even help.

Obama just needs to keep on doing what he's doing.. keep building the base, and getting people to the polls. It was just a few weeks ago that he was suppose to lose NH by 15% or more.. so we did better then that! We just didn't live up the Media's crazy expectations... what a shock.:)
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:02 AM
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31. I hope he stays in.
He may run out of money, and the polls (for whatever they're worth) have him in third place in every state for which there is a poll.

http://www.pollster.com/08presidentialprimary.php
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:18 AM
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35. Hell no. n/t
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 AM
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36. Obama can steal Edwards votes' tomorrow...
by pandering to progressives instead of conservatives.

If he chooses not to earn their votes, too f**ing bad for him.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:41 AM
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39. Why should he???
If he did I wouldn't throw my support to Obama. Oh well good try I suppose.

It's not always about the placement as much as how many delegates one picks up.

Obama has 25 delegates

Clinton has 24 delegates

Edwards has 18 delegates

So, as you can see they each have quite a few delegates lining up in their prospective camps.

Maybe Obama should drop out and throw his support to EDWARDS.:hi:









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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:55 AM
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41. With two states? Are you serious?
I hope Edwards can hang in there until the bitter end.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:28 AM
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42. I love the smell of flamebait in the morning
Maybe we should just let New Hampshire voters decide who our candidate is. :eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:16 AM
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60. Sure they should (I know you are being sarcastic). Overwhelmingly white,
young, wealthy--that's the America I live in (NOT).
http://www.nhliving.com/stats/index.shtml

On the other hand--they have a grand total of TWO public libraries (Phoenix proper alone has 14... :rofl:)
http://www.statemaster.com/state/NH-new-hampshire/edu-education
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:48 AM
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43. Too early
But if he gets below 20% in NV or doesn't come in 2nd in SC, then I don't seem him having any way to win.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 AM
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44. No way
Edwards is shaping the debate right now, & both Obama & Clinton are lifting a lot of his themes. Even if he doesn't win, he'll have done alot to raise alarms about the dangers of corporatism & the harm Republicans have done to the middle class.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:58 AM
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45. Obama is just another corporate whore, John Edwards is the only one that will end corporate control.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:30 AM
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46. No
Edwards may be a long-shot at this point, but it's not at all necessary that the primaries be pared down to a two-person contest after only one caucus and one primary. Additionally, there is no evidence that I have seen that Edwards supporters would transfer their support to Obama and not Clinton. While his supporters on DU, including myself, tend to be more liberal, his overall support from voters seems to span the spectrum, and cannot be assumed to favor one or the other more strongly. Even if Edwards were to endorse Obama that would not guarantee that all or most of his supporters would move in that direction.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:28 PM
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48. Hillary should drop out and throw her support to Edwards.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:30 PM
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49. How about Obama drops out and supports Edwards?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 AM
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51. Considering that Obama has finished ahead of Edwards in both contests so far, and
the fact that he is leading Edwards by significant margins in most if not all states, this would not be a very likely scenario.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:31 PM
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50. Fuck no. (nt)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:34 AM
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52. No doubt that is what you would like Freddie.
n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:32 AM
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54. Ah Poor Freddie
Maybe if he stomps his feet a bit more or clicks his heels together or gets out his magic 8 ball......Where is GMAN and his flying pig?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:05 AM
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59. Actually, I would prefer for Edwards to stay in
The longer he stays in, the longer the anti-Hillary vote is split. I would prefer her to Obama.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:38 AM
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55. Believe me, you dont know who Obama is -
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:41 AM by kelligesq
and if he gets to be president you wont like what you find out

Hillary and Obama are just two sides of the same coin.

This country's slide into corporatism (fascism) will be complete if either of them win
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:25 AM
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56. He should do what he feels is right
Perhaps he feels that Obama is not bringing up certain issues.

But unfortunately for Edwards, his own stories is getting repetitive. I like him but he should have retooled his message somewhat. It's too late now.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:30 AM
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57. Clinton & Obama should both drop out. They're denying Edwards
a clear majority.

:smoke:
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:05 AM
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58. HILLARY==OBAMA==STATUS QUO nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:12 AM
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63. Who cares? It's not like it would change anything. Race would still be open
:shrug:
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