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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:52 PM
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Bill Clinton's record.....
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:25 PM by BooScout
1.8 Years without a war.(Yugoslava doesn't count it was a NATO initiative to stop genocide)
2.A balanced budget.
3.He tried Health Care Reform and the DEMOCRATIC Congress shot him down (Lobbyists don't ya know?)Hillary led the push for Health Care Reform and she was vilified by Democrats and Republicans alike for trying to bring Health Care to every Citizen..........now look at all of them scrambling to bring 'their' plan to the nation.......well folks Hillary and Bill tried to bring it to us FIRST.
4.NAFTA? Supported by centralist's in both parties at the time (for the record I never supported it but you are NEVER going to agree with everything any candidate supports}.
5.The most popular President to leave office since IKE.
6. Signed into law the Family & Medical Leave Act.
7. Greatest peacetime expansion ever.
8. Brady Bill
9. Raised taxes for the wealthy.....lowered them for the poor.
10. Northern Ireland (if you don't know then look it up).
11. My personal situation under Clinton. 1. Was able to buy my first house. 2. Had my 401K increase by god knows what percent but it was A LOT. Paid off my credit cards and got my ass out of debt.

So yeah..........I'll take another Clinton sitting in the White House anytime. ......and a lot of us know that Hillary was the brains behind Bill to begin with.

And one last thing.......may I remind you that during his entire 2nd term he was crucified constantly by the Republicans and he still left the country in DAMNED good shape at the end of his term despite the constant harassment by a bunch of whiney assed morality police......and NO I don't give a fuck that he couldn't keep his pants zipped with Monica......that was between him and Hillary and never should have been blown up to the level it did.

So quit your own whiney assed interpretation of how bad Bill Clinton was. You sound like a Repuke.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:02 PM
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1. Cheers Mate
I'll drink to that ...
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:06 PM
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2. quite accurate list...but the DU freepers and Obamakids are rather prone to rejecting fact and reali
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:08 PM
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4. and I left off about ten times that amount of data.
I can't believe Democrats are attacking Bill Clint's record. It absolutely boggles my mind.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:07 PM
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3. To listen to some DUers, NAFTA was the only thing Clinton did. Here's more...
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:09 PM
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6. Thanks Perry......
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:10 PM by BooScout
I saw your reply on 'that other post' after I posted this thread but I refuse to be sucked into that thread.

Great post.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:20 PM
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8. Thanks Perry.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:09 PM
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5. I was wondering if this was another "all negative" hate post
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:25 PM by HughMoran
Thanks for showing that there are two sides to every argument.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:21 PM
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9. The U.N. never "signed off" on Kosovo
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:23 PM by wuushew
The United States Airforce operating with its buddies in NATO had a fun time dropping bombs on bridges and power plants in Serbia.

I don't see how a mutual defense treaty can be invoked to fly over non-member territory and come to the aid of people that are not a party to such a pact.


Blowing up civilian infrastructure to force out one man? Why not just asassinate Milocivich? The choice seems neither consistent with treaty law nor the most expedient course of action. How the hell were all diplomatic options exhausted? If Yeltsin was our puppet then what was stopping Russia from exerting its considerable influence over Serbia?



Apparently war is sexy and pays political dividends, though profoundly immoral.



(On Edit, meant to post to OP not you)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:25 PM
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10. Ooops
oh, well :hi:
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 PM
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14. To force out one man.......
....and stop his henchmen from genocide.......the problem about Kosovo was that we waited too long to go in the first place.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:46 PM
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15. Naomi Klein is talking about privatizing Iraq and then says this in a footnote...
Naomi Klein is talking about privatizing Iraq and then says this in a footnote...

The idea that a failure to join the Washington Consensus could be enough to provoke a foreign invasion may seem far-fetched, but there was a precedent. When NATO bombed Belgrade in 1999, the official reason was Slobodan Milosevic's egregious human rights violations that had horrified the world. But in a little-reported revelation years after the Kosovo war, Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state under President Clinton and the lead negotiator during the war, provided a distinctly less idealistic explanation. "As nations throughout the region sought to reform their economies, mitigate ethnic tensions, and broaden civil society, Belgrade seesm to delight in continually moving in the opposite direction. It is a small wonder NATO and Yugoslavia ended up on a collison course. It was Yugoslavia's resistance to broader trends of political and economic reform-not the plight of the Kosvar Albanians-that best explains NATO's war." The revelation came out in a 2005 book, "Collison Course" NATO, Russia, and Kosovo by Talbott's former communications director, John Norris...

See entire thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2492912
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:51 PM
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16. By destroying civilian infrastructure?
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:55 PM by wuushew
How is that the moral thing to do? How does the power going out at a hospital engender good will towards the west?

Also it takes two to tango, the ethic Albanians weren't just getting slaughtered for no reason. They had arms and weapons and were waging a real insurrection.

People who yearn for autonomy should do so through non-violent means.



When do the ends justify the means? Did Bill Clinton have a mathematical formula which balanced Serb lives vs. Albanians? His solution is not satisfactory to me.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:20 PM
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7. Bill Clinton in support of Bush's Invasion of Iraq
Clinton's column included the less-than-prescient prediction that "military action probably will require only a few days."

Soon after the invasion (3/30/03), Clinton appeared on CBS's 60 Minutes with former Senator Robert Dole and endorsed the war, saying, "Senator, unlike some of your Republican friends during Kosovo, I support our troops in Iraq and the president." (Note that while one can support the troops but not the war, supporting the president in Iraq means supporting the war.)

In a 2004 interview with Time magazine (6/28/04), Clinton reiterated this before-the-fact support for the invasion: "You know, I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over."

Clinton went on to claim that Iraq's chemical and biological weapons were of concern, especially after the September 11 attacks:

So, you're sitting there as president, you're reeling in the aftermath of this, so, yeah, you want to go get bin Laden and do Afghanistan and all that. But you also have to say, well, my first responsibility now is to try everything possible to make sure that this terrorist network and other terrorist networks cannot reach chemical and biological weapons or small amounts of fissile material. I've got to do that. That's why I supported the Iraq thing.

...

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3222
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:26 PM
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11. 12. Escalation of the War on Drugs/increase in the Federal Prison Population. nt
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:27 PM
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19. Ruby Ridge and Waco were also highlights of his domestic policy. n/t
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:32 PM
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12. i'm sure it's been mentioned, but last people that attacked WTC...
...prior to Gulliani's most favorite day, actually have been caught...
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:34 PM
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13. Thank you so much. It's about time something good said about
our best President in many, many yrs. Say Nov. 22, 1963.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:56 PM
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17. But all that is negated
because some bad things happened to some people. Because he was not perfect, it was hell on earth and "more poor people" (seven million fewer in poverty but hey that's that reality thing so nobody cares) were created.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:21 PM
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18. so it's all good? And anybody who does not think it was all good
is a Repuke?

1. 8 years without a war. Didn't Reagan also manage that? Grenada and Panama really don't count as "wars". Further Clinton took the step of massive bombing in Yugoslavia, creating much greater destruction and loss of civilian lives. Why? To avoid the political damage from lost American lives.
2. A balanced budget. Since when do Democrats balance budgets? Typical of Clinton, he out-Republicaned the Republicans. History shows we would have been better off if he'd spent the surplus on social programs rather than leaving it as an inheritance for Bush to Dole out to his base.
3. He tried health care reform. That one kinda puzzles me. I remember before the election seeing him on TV saying "I have a plan". Then after he was elected, he appoints Hillary to a commission to "create a plan" when I coulda sworn he said he already had a plan.
4. NAFTA - you defend NAFTA by saying that centrists supported it. This somehow proves the big dawg's progressive creds? Color me confused.
4a. No mention of the telecom bill
4b. No mention of welfare reform
5. Compare him to Ike. Good comparison if you wanna argue that they were both moderate Republicans
6. Family and Medical Leave Act - probably a good thing, but personally, it looks like another benefit for married people. Much like the tax credit for children which also came from his Administration.
7. greatest peacetime expansion ever - and the share of income going to the top 20% went from 48.9 to 50.1 and Manpower temp agency became one of America's largest employers and the real value of the minimum wage fell.
8. Brady bill - Yeah, well what about people who aren't Patriots' fans? Brady, of course, was a member of the Reagan administration.
9. Raised taxes for the wealthy - Once. Also cut them for the wealthy. After 1996, capital gains from the sale of your home are not taxable.
10. Kudos for Northern Ireland
11. My personal situation under Clinton. From 1993-1998 I worked two jobs with no benefits, about 70+ hours a week for less than $12,000 a year. In 1998, I closed my business and moved to a place with record low unemployment where I spent three years working as a temp because I could not find or get a real job. Under Clinton as he continually boasted about his great economy, the poor and temp workers were invisible. In spite of the record low unemployment there were still about 80 people applying for six jobs every time I applied for one.

You know what sounds like a Repuke to me is when a President says something like "the era of Big Government is over". In 1992, it seemed like there were 3 moderate Republicans running for President. I voted 4th party, and did the same in 1996 because I was not impressed. Unlike Gore, who opposed the Iraq war with a fiery speech, Clinton has not impressed me after his Presidency either.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:30 PM
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20. I remember when he jumped all over Chris Wallace not that long ago...
Here on DU everyone was crazy about Big Dog.

Now he and Hillary get vilified no matter what they do. It's disgusting to see the venom.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:15 PM
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21. There are deeper issues...

but it looks like these will eventually get censored, even on DU.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:21 PM
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22. Great post. Thank you!
Bill Clinton did a great job and left office with a very high approval rating. I would take him back in the WH in a New York minute. Thanks for this very timely and necessary reminder of his record - reading the posts around here lately, you'd think he was as bad as Junior.

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