Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Anyone here still use an antenna to get their TV signal? Feb.17 the analog signal is turned off

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:54 PM
Original message
Anyone here still use an antenna to get their TV signal? Feb.17 the analog signal is turned off
and you will need a converter box. It sounds like the industry is not prepared for the demand that will come.

Best Buy Nervous About TV Conversion
7 hours ago

LAS VEGAS — Best Buy Inc.'s chief executive said Tuesday that he is "very nervous" about being able to supply customers with the millions of digital TV converter boxes needed ahead of the shutdown of most analog TV transmissions in 13 months.

"I think it's one of the biggest risks our industry has," vice chairman and CEO Brad Anderson told an industry audience at the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

Full-power television stations will turn off their analog signal on Feb. 17, 2009, after which they will broadcast in digital only. Viewers who receive their signals through an antenna instead of cable or satellite and don't have a digital-ready TV will have to buy a converter.

The Nielsen Co. estimates that 14.3 million households rely on over-the-air television broadcasts for programming. Still others have sets that receive analog broadcasts as a complement to cable, satellite or digital sets in the same household.

"The number of converter boxes that is going to be required could put tremendous pressure on us to solve all those problems" in a short time, said Anderson.

"We're very nervous about the potential risk. Once it gets turned off, it could be very interesting," he added.

Apart from the supply issue, customer education looms as a problem for the retailers. Speaking on the same panel, Phil Schoonover, the CEO of Circuit City Stores Inc. said Anderson's caution was appropriate. He contrasted the digital TV transition to the introduction of high-definition television sets, which mainly attracted the well-heeled and technically savvy.<snip>

http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/general/2008/01/09/Gadget.Show.DTV/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. 2009 2009 2009 2009 2009
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Well, that makes this even stranger. Why wouldn't they be prepared for this by Feb. 2009?
Hmmmm....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. They'd rather sell us new TVs than converters for our old ones
...so the industry isn't making enough converters at present.

I never watch anything but Cleveland sports and the weather, so I could give a rat's ass myself. But lots of people DO watch TV and have old sets that they can't afford to replace.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Also, understanding WHY the converters are needed is a big problem
Each and every single time I mention this to people, they're all, "WHAT??" and then I have to go and explain it all.

I heard there were going to be vouchers provided for something like $40 toward buying the boxes. Is there any truth to that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. yes, you can already apply for the vouchers. But don't do so yet.
The problem isn't going to be that converters won't be manufacturered in sufficient quantity (although local shortages and delays probably will occur). The government has certified 250 retailers with over 15,000 outlets nationwide to sell simple converters that will allow someone to keep using their analog television to receive over the air broadcasts. The governement also is finishing testing on 19 differnet converters that will qualify for rebates under the coupon program.

Here's where things are going to get messy. The program allowing consumers to receive two $40 off coupons for these converters is already in place (see ntia.gov). You can apply and, in fact, over a million people already have. The coupons will start going out in the mail in mid-February. But there aren't any boxes in stores yet -- and the coupons expires after 90 days. FOr some of the folks who asked for coupons early because they heard about the program, they're going to be pissed that they are under a time deadline to buy the converter, especially when the converters aren't even in the stores yet.

There will be considerable confusion on this and when people realize that they have to use the coupon within 90 days, a lot will decide to wait until the last minute (figuring that maybe the boxes will go on sale next Christmas). Its going to be,as they say, a clusterfuck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. Quick buy Alcoa and Reynolds stock heh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
2. 2009 that is
This was supposed to happen in 2006 but the deadline was extended because digital tv's were slow to catch on. I will bet all takers that it will be extended at least once more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
3. Hmm
just another reason to stop watching TV.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
4. It's next year.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. turn it off, baby....
Turn it all off. TV sucks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. I fear some unexpected electromagnetic effect on our world
all those waves have been bouncing around our atmosphere for longer than most of us were born, and suddenly they will stop. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. No, they won't stop, they'll just be for sale to the highest bidder.
The "spectrum" that Television previously occupied
for (nominally) free will now be sold for commercial
uses.

Tesha
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
9. Of course, Best Buy and Circuit City....
would rather sell us overpriced and overhyped HDTV's than the converter boxes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. Not so overhyped
I got a Samsung 50" DLP set last year and it is da BOMB, especially for use as a computer monitor and gaming display.

Jaw-dropping, really. But not everyone can afford them, and if I hadn't gotten an 18 moths no payment or interest deal I would never have bought it in the first place. Still, I won't have to buy a new TV for a very long time, if ever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
10. Huge recycling nightmare
I have a battery-operated portable I keep for earthquakes -- no way a converter will work on it. It'll be useless in 2009.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
14. So will analog tv be like AM radio now? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. Except you can still get AM radio.
If I'm reading this right, the air TV is just going to...go away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Oh that freaks me out...
just goes away...poof!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
15. I have one sitting next to my computer monitor. I guess I can use it
with my PS2.

Hopefully I will be able to get more streamed video on the internet like what MSNBC has offered during the primaries.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. If your TV and your monitor are that close,
you might want to consider getting a TV card for your PC. I think Hauppage makes cards that have HD tuners.

after looking at my local computer shop's website, I guess I was right. Of course, that depends on getting the signals in the first place, so you have to live in an area that has cable or satellite access.

Actually, getting a TV card is a great option if you don't have or don't use a TV. Most of them- including the one I link to above- come with TV scheduler software and the option to record in multiple formats, sizes, and rates of compression, so they actually act like a Tivo that you don't have to subscribe to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. I have a TV upstairs I use if I want to watch HBO or other such wastes
of time. Of course IFC and Sundance are not a waste of time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
20. I have DirecTV and they won't give me my local channels. If I
lived an area that provides cable TV they would give my my local channels. I know it doesn't make sense to me either. Since I live out in the boondocks I have to rely on an antenna to get my local news. The reception sucks and I'll be damn if I'm going to buy a converter box to receive lousy reception.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC