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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:44 AM
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There's an LTTE in the Cape Cod Times that needs a little DU love.
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 10:32 AM by unhappycamper
The title of the opinion piece is "Democrats empower al-Qaida and Iran."

I'm sure Brian would appreciate your comments.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:49 AM
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1. Sorry, but I don't respond to this kind of tripe.
We see this kind of trash in our local rag all the time. This kind of opinion is in a tiny minority and embraced only by the foolish.

To respond is to give them credence, and I refuse.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:55 AM
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2. I understand and respect your position.
This nutcase made his point in a public forum. Speaking for myself only, and myself only, I refuse to let this kinda crap go unchallenged.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:03 AM
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4. I agree. There are a lot of people out there who only hear this side
but if they knew the facts would otherwise be in our camp. I think it's a bad idea to let lies and slander spread through ignoring them.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:07 AM
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7. I appreciate that, too, as long as you address only the facts.
I am equally embarrassed by lefties who write editorials/LTTO and immediately start flaming the opposition.

If you do respond, please remind this stupid sonofabitch that a lot of people who have fought for our freedoms and put their lives on the line do not support this gd war.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:06 AM
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6. If you don't respond, it gives them credence
Not long, a mass email made the rounds stating the Sudan offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter to Bill Clinton, only to be turned down 2 or 3 times.

There was no response from Clinton, or his surrogates.

The email kept going around and around, and somebody even wrote a book about it.

And, even though it was debunked by the 9/11 commission and others (including Snopes) the email was so pervasive that many think there is at least some truth to it.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:10 AM
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9. These same people believe that Gore claimed to have invented the Internet, ...
...that Gore owns a polluting zinc mine, had millions of dollars invested in Occidental Petroleum, claimed to have discovered Love Canal, etc. They still believe it. They believe that Kerry was never wounded in Vietnam.

Willfully ignorant people are that way by choice.

Please respond all you wish to local nut bags, but I'll put my energies elsewhere.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:14 AM
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10. A few weeks back, a moderate Repub I know ripped a Freeper
type to shreds over Al Gore & global warming, and then finished up his argument saying that Gore was instrumental in the invention of the internet, too.

Surprisingly, the Freeper finally gave up and admitted the other guy was right.

Not everybody is willfully ignorant, so it can be done.

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:18 AM
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13. Every once in awhile I make an effort to respond in my local paper --
because to let these kinds of commentaries go unchallenged lends them legitimacy in the eyes of people who honestly don't know better.

Doesn't mean you have to of course, but there is often good reason to do so.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:28 AM
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17. It can be good practice, too, in articulating a position.
That's valuable all by itself.
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Kare Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:02 AM
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3. If by love you mean disgust....
then sure I can extend that.

And I really doubt that Brian would appreciate MY comments.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:05 AM
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5. That was fun.
lol

I guess their mods have to go through the posts from new posters. :)
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:07 AM
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8. I left this "love note".....
While the republican leadership insist on on more death and destruction, it is always someone else's child who will bleed and die, while their own cheer from the safety of the sidelines.

To cynically question democrat patriotism is a sure sign the RW rhetoric is failing. Their ideas have been discredited, and their policies have failed.


It is being approved ..... :evilgrin:
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:17 AM
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11. I responded, mostly bc I grew up on the Cape --
and it pained me to see shit like that in my old paper. My comment has to be approved before it will show up.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:28 PM
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22. Nice comment Katherine!
Very well done!
ThankYou
What part of the Cape?
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:18 AM
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12. This is a LTTE right? Not an editorial from someone
on staff at the Cape Cod Times.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:23 AM
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16. Correct - it is a citizen expressing his opinion - I just changed the thread title
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 10:33 AM by unhappycamper
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:19 AM
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14. There's some GREAT comments posted.
Keep them cards and letters coming, Folks. :thumbsup:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:23 AM
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15. All the posted comments are negative.
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 10:23 AM by RebelOne
Not one of them agrees with the writer.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:32 AM
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18. Maybe their mod.....
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 10:33 AM by hwmnbn
is Michael Moore
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:33 AM
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19. You've made my day UHC! and all you who have responded!
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 11:33 AM by PuraVidaDreamin
Before moving from Falmouth I would do the weekly
vigil there and he 'this guy Brian' would drive by and somehow would
focus on me (probably cuz I'm so cute correct UHC?)
and starts yelling at me I was a redheaded whore.
Plus other lovely comments.
Saw him at a Delahunt town meeting once and the booze
just oozed off him.

Thank You All! DUers Rock!
"Debbie"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:36 AM
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20. Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
lol
:hi:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:48 AM
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21. Thanks Cutie!
There. Now it's official.

You know, I forgot to mention it was you who passed along the info about the LTTE. My bad.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:27 PM
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23. No problem
I just posted my response, with quotes from Republicans like Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and George W. Bush.

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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:45 PM
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24. Good one!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Some quotes for Mr. McDevitt to digest.

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” Theodore Roosevelt, Republican and 26th president of the United States.

“Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.” Abraham Lincoln, Republican and 16th president of the United States.

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush, Republican and 43rd president of the United States.

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." George W. Bush, again.


Posted by Jeff K | February 22, 2007 01:25 PM
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 06:37 PM
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25. And the freepers reply:
RB that is a smart move. The 150,000 troops did not help any of the people in the world trade centers and it did not help the people on the trains in Spain after they pulled out, and it did not help the people on the London subway, and it did not help the people in the pizza parlors in Isreal, and it did not help the people in the Marriot in Bali. Like I said before the killers we are fighting will not stop for anything so you better be in it for the long haul. Imagine sitting in the food court at the mall, how are the 150,000 troops going to help you when a killer shows up with a bomb strapped to his/her waste? You are all missing the big picture here. Does not matter who is in the control democrat or republican this group will not stop trying to take us out. So you may all think you are doing this large service to this country by protesting the war by living in the past of Veitnam when you should be looking into your future. I pray that our kids do not need a flack jacket to go to the mall. The exit strategy is we are in this for the long haul whether you like it or not because this religion will not stop, it is there destiny.

Posted by Rich | February 22, 2007 02:06 PM



Wow, Dems really know how to rally the wagons whenever they get called out for the fools they are. I am living everyday in fear of the next attack, and it will be coming. Please stop the rhetoric and defend our country before it's too late.

Posted by S. Panza | February 22, 2007 03:39 PM

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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:38 PM
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26. Here's my comment that I had fun writing. It hasn't been posted yet.
The radical rightwing will lead America to defeat in Iraq.

Good old fashioned commonsense says that failure is a result of a failure in leadership and that wars are won and lost on the moral level before they are won or lost on the battlefield.

In my humble opinion it is the radical ideas about political leadership and warfare of the radical rightwing neocons that has created the quagmire in Iraq and is leading America to defeat.

The unifying neocon leadership principle is: leadership by deception. This radical idea about leadership has resulted in even more radical ideas about interpreting the constitution, habeas corpus and the limits of presidential power that undermine and pervert traditional ideas about the constitution and democracy. The end result of these radical ideas about politics and leadership is a failure of moral leadership by President Bush that has led to division and loss of national will on Iraq.


In terms of warfare the radical rightwing neocons have used the radical idea of preventive war to justify invading Iraq, overthrowing traditional ideas about international law and wars of aggression. The other radical neocon idea about warfare is the Revolution in Military Affairs military doctrine. Under RMA doctrine light combat brigades using Humvees and Stryker combat vehicles were sent to Iraq. Both have light armor and are easy to blow up with IED’s and both are wheeled and have limited off-road capability so the insurgents know that placing IED’s on roads is a good idea. In the meanwhile there are thousands of unused M113 Gavins with better armor protection and tracks for better off road capability that could have saved hundreds of lives and prevented thousands of injuries to US soldiers serving in Iraq.

The end result of radical neocon ideas about warfare is that America has lost the war on the moral level and thousands of unnecessary casualties for US soldiers.

Good old fashioned commonsense says failure is always a failure of leadership and the radical ideas of the rightwing neocons have resulted in failure in Iraq and failure on the home front.

What America desperately needs is a moral leader who will do what has to be done to remove the radical neocon troublemakers from power before their bad ideas about leadership and military doctrine ruin the moral fiber of America that is leading America to defeat in Iraq.

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