Imagine a Candidate Saying to Stephanopoulos: "That's a very un-axios and unorthodox question."

[CorpGovActivist]

From Chapter 1 of All Too Human: A Political Education, by George Stephanopoulos, of his growing up in the Greek Orthodox Church, in which his father is a priest:

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When I was six, the bishop came to my father's new parish in Rye, New York, and placed his stole on my head before clipping a bit of my hair to symbolize my servitude to the church.

"Axios," the bishop proclaimed. "He is worthy." Axios echoed back from the pews - a word weighted with expectation, a word I would hear again if I were ordained.

<snip>

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Throughout the memoir, the concept of being weighed and found to be "axios" - by the Clintons, in particular - is repeated in multiple contexts.

If today's videotaped snark redounds as it should, I think this becomes a new hiccup in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_carolina#Religion">South Carolina and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada#Religion">Nevada.

Maybe Mark Penn can get out his Triangulation Incantation spellbook, and "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation">transubstantiate" his client's videotaped snarky snafu before the ads get aired with today's segment.

- Dave

[babylonsister]

1. In the context of today's politics and George's job, I bet his

book would be very interesting. I need to see if I can find that. Thanks! And I look forward to those hiccups.

[CorpGovActivist]

2. I'd Be Happy to Loan You Mine...

... if you can't find it at your local library. Just ignore the tatters and stains.

- Dave

[babylonsister]

3. Thank you! That's very kind. I'll check out the library first. nt

[CorpGovActivist]

4. You Bet! And As You Probably Know...

... they can usually inter-library loan it if they don't have it.

; )

- Dave

[mojowork_n]

5. Huh? He was six years old.

What are you saying here? I missed the videotaped snark.

[CorpGovActivist]

6. See the OP Here...

... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2675848&mesg_id=2675848">link, which includes the transcript and Netcast of the snark.

- Dave

[mojowork_n]

7. Still seems like apples and golf balls, to me.

Or, at best, like 'resurrecting' essays from kindergarden, or what it means, today, that one of the candidates put in time as a Goldwater Girl.

More heat than light.

[CorpGovActivist]

8. The Point Is...

... he refers back to his Orthodox faith and the word "axios" throughout the book, making clear that his Orthodox faith is part and parcel of who he is, intrinsically.

So, I'm asking what the reaction might be if a candidate for high office were to make that jab at Stephanopoulos, like the snark that was made by Senator Clinton to Russert on MTP yesterday.

- Dave

[LanternWaste]

9. I suppose it would depend mostly...

I suppose it would depend mostly on what the lines of dialog preceding the retort (or "snark"-- depending on which candidate one supports, I guess) were...

But, yeah-- there'd be a reaction regardless of what she said and to whom she said it to. I think these days, she could say "Good morning" to her daughter and someone would find a way to induce some good, old-fashioned righteous rage out of it.

[CorpGovActivist]

10. Of All the Words She Could Have Selected, 'Jesuitical' Was Not a "Good Morning"...

... to Russert, or to Catholic voters in NV and SC.

- Dave

[LanternWaste]

12. It wasn't? Oh noes1111

It wasn't? Oh noes1111 I though Jesuitical was the exact same thing as "good Morning"111 Now, with Obvious 101 out of the way...

I'm sure you'll regale us with the in-depth and spot-on analysis of the cultural and religious implications of using 'jesuitical' in a sentence-- how it may or may not be slur or benign, the context used in, the transgressors past history of use of the word, etc...

I've patience-- I'll wait. Let us know when you post it. :)

[CorpGovActivist]

13. Do You Voice Bruce on Family Guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5JImyGTyE

- Dave

[JHB]

11. Is Atrios Axios?

Alliterative minds want to know....

[CorpGovActivist]

14. Probably So

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrios">link

- Dave

[paulk]

15. that was "snark"?

I long for the day when a guest of Russert's reaches across the table and clocks that mealy mouthed POS upside the head.

I thought it was a rather clever putdown from Hillary, and I applaud anyone who can make that blowhard look foolish.

[CorpGovActivist]

16. Smart Bombs Minimize Collateral Damage and Blowback...

... and using the word "Jesuistic," as she campaigns in NV and SC - with significant Catholic populations - was not a smart bomb.

- Dave

[paulk]

17. do you speak for Catholics?

Are you one?

That seems a stretch to me, and I'm not saying that out of ignorance... as I was raised Catholic and my (extensive) family still practices. I doubt very much this will have any measurable impact on the "Catholic" vote.

In fact, I would wager that Obama's reaching out to Evangelicals hurts him with Catholics far more than some obscure reference to Jesuits does Hillary. Evangelicals are often quite hostile to the Catholic church.

[CorpGovActivist]

18. I Went to Mass Regularly with a Good Friend in High School...

... and still find Midnight Mass to be one of the most peaceful and joyful experiences.

Our parents were very stern about disabusing the "idol worship" meme being spewed from our pulpit.

- Dave

[mojowork_n]

19. This thread reminds me of yesterday's Doonesbury

Only instead of 1387, the time is 1054, the dispute over the Filioque that led to the Great Schism.

Blame it on Constantine, not on anything spewed from a pulpit.