Clinton camp being about as sleazy as it can get, re: "not talking about cocaine."

[Atman]

Since yesterday on the talking head programs all I've heard in the media is Clinton supporters acting shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU, that people are mentioning Barack Obama's COCAINE use! Can you imagine? They're all sure to point out they sure wouldn't ever mention Barack Obama's COCAINE use, they're just reporting on all the people who ARE talking about Barack Obama's COCAINE use! It's about as low and sleazy a tactic as they can do, imho, attempting to distance themselves from it by repeating over and over and over and over again, then showing the tape in which the words aren't mentioned at all, but pointing out that the dude was obviously referring to Barack Obama's use of COCAINE and MARIJUANA!

They all go, "GASP! Can you imagine someone would say that about Obama?! Horrors...but we'd never stoop so low! We're just reporting on what other people are saying about Barack Obama's COCAINE USE!" Not surprisingly these references are coming fast and furious on, where else, defense contractor GE's NBC and MSNBC media outlets.

I suspect the ultimate goal is NOT to get Hillary elected...or Obama. They're slamming Hillary almost as bad, repeating that she slammed MLK and says it was really LBJ that was responsible for civil rights advancement in America. The point is to sour EVERYONE on both of them. White people, they're hoping, will get the message that Obama is just another gang-bangin' drug user; they know Hillary is already trouble with a huge part of the electorate, and this should help assure that any potential black voters will dislike her, too. And they refuse to mention than John Edwards is even running. Today it was all Obama/Hillary all morning until after everyone had gone to work, then they gave five minutes to the Edwards campaign...during which they asked him about...take a guess.

As I stated yesterday, I wish some lawyer somewhere (maybe Edwards himself once they've managed to completely marginalize him) would file a class action suit on behalf of the American voters forcing General Electric to divest itself of NBC. It is just totally, 100% WRONG to have a major defense contractor also pulling the strings on who gets election coverage. This is THE MOST fucked up race I've ever seen. This morning Scab even mentioned how it was setting up to look like "2000 all over again," with the race close and no one knowing what will happen. Of course it will! That's the goal. Turn off EVERYONE to Clinton and Obama so that when Diebold anoints Mitt Romney they can just say "Oh, well obviously people just couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman or a black man."

I have a baaaad feeling about this.

(PS to all the "anyone who speaks ill of Hillary is a hater" crowd: I don't hate Hillary Clinton, nor am I an Obama supporter. I've not made a decision yet, though I am close. But please try something more creative than just calling everyone who disagrees with you a "hater." It's juvenile.)

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[MethuenProgressive]

1. Baloney.

And cheap baloney at that.

[Atman]

3. Thanks for that thoughtful, reasoned response.

You've added so much to the dialog.

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[burythehatchet]

7. Would you be willing to kick in a few bucks

that we're trying to collect so the poster will keep a journal? We could all benefit greatly by reading her previous prose.

[Atman]

16. What poster?

Not sure what you're talking about.

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[Richard Steele]

26. WHAAAAAAAA!

[William769]

2. I think it should be talked about.

One coke head in the White House is enough!

[beberocks]

11. Exactly! This is just one reason Obama is unelectable IMO

And I find it very disturbing that this is not being brought up in the MSM. I'll bet very few of the Obama supporters know about his long-term drug use.

[hedgehog]

19. Long term?

[madrchsod]

21. it`s getting really really bad isn`t it?

[cali]

12. Calling Obama a coke head and trying to link him to bush;

can you sink any lower? Now you can go whine about how Obama supporters unfairly attack Clinton.

There's a word for that kind of behavior

[William769]

13. I call it like I see it.

And yes I could have chose my words better but because of the bullshit being posted I decided not to. So sue me.

[Atman]

17. Yes, you do.

The trouble is, you're seeing what you've been told to see, without critically thinking, William. To call Obama a "coke head" is inexcusable. He's no more a "coke head" than one is an raging drunk after attending a frat party in college. You're smarter than that, William, even if you DO like Windows Vista.

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[William769]

18. To begin with I don't like Windows Vista.

I love it. And as to the second part I'll say it again I can sling shit with the best of them. And you know what I'm talking about.

[Atman]

14. self delete

Responded to wrong person

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. He TRIED Cocaine in his younger days. My bet is...99.9% of Congress and any administration since the

70s has too! Please. A little coke in college is no big deal and if the psycho-in-chief can be an alcoholic and cocaine user....Barack's youthful indiscretions are NO BIG DEAL. If Barack was a coke addict, that would be a different story, but he isn't and never was. The man went on to Harvard Law and became very siccessful. He already owned up to it in his book. He wasn't trying to hide it. HE wrote about it himself. This is a non-issue.

[kentuck]

4. If he can't respond now, how's he going to respond when the Repubs...

bring it up, day after day after day? Oh, you don't think they would be that low??

[Buzz Clik]

5. The parallels between the Clinton 2008 campaign and Bush 2000 are unsettling.

McCain was constantly getting slandered by Rove et al in 2000. If he'd dare to protest, they'd accuse him of being hot tempered, weak, or going back on his promise to run a positive campaign.

Clinton is doing the same thing to Obama, and it is a bit unnerving.

Ten days ago, I was an undecided voter. These tactics by the Clinton clan helped me decide.

[rocktivity]

9. DING DING DING! Buzz Clik, you're our grand prize winner!

The parallels between the Clinton 2008 campaign and Bush 2000 are unsettling.

I call it "Operation Color Him Black." They're trying to attack his strength, his colorlessness. It's not blatant racism, just associating him with the radicalism of the 60's. They're trying to chase away Obama's white voters by "reminding" him that he's black--and a drug-addicted one, at that.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Richard Steele]

27. Some very unsettling similarities, indeed. nm

[EFerrari]

6. Before I have to hide this thread, I think you're right.

And, it's only January. It's like the goal is to make it as ugly as possible as early as possible or something.

[itsrobert]

8. Are you part of the Clinton camp?

You just brought it up. You're talking about the "not talking about cocaine"

[Atman]

15. Oh, you see right through me.

:eyes:

Unlike the very general audience General Electric is trying to reach, the audience here is hard-core and I presume to be much better educated about these kind of crapola tactics so that we're able to discuss them and avoid being sucked in by them. Perhaps I give some DUers too much credit?

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[nancyr]

10. I tend to agree.

I am already sick of the mud-slinging and general garbage. It will only get worse.

[madrchsod]

20. barack used cocaine?

you are saying that he one of the tens of millions of americans that have used cocaine sometime in their lives?

dam this is a big story...obama was one of tens of millions of americans from ALL walks of life that has used cocaine!

i`m shocked ,i tell you, i`m shocked!

[cooolandrew]

23. The clintons camp does appear to be running a very republican like campaign to my mind..

... I can only be more drawn to Barack's huge positivity which in a time of darkness is huge shining light.

[ConcernedCanuk]

24. Good thing links aren't required in General Discussion

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But documentation via links might give more credence to the Original Poster's assertions

I'm waiting to see (hopefully) some more responsible posting on this board before your election

As for calling any "camp" sleazy

I ain't impressed

Just My Canuk Humble Observation

[Atman]

25. A love people who ask for links to reality!

:rofl:

Do you really think I'm making this up? You haven't heard ANYONE, especially on MSNBC, bring up the Obama/coke? Come on? Who are you trying to kid, are do you simply not pay any attention to the news? And since I specifically mentioned MSNBC and NBC, exactly how difficult would it be for an intelligent person like you to log on to the MSNBC web site? I'm not even sure there is anything there about it, because, as I clearly stated, I was hearing it on GE-owned TELEVISION, not on any web site.

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[sandnsea]

28. Links to opinion?

How can someone link to something referencing their own personal opinion?

[ConcernedCanuk]

29. "all I've heard in the media " was the statement before the assertions

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I'll admit that our Canadian "media" doesn't pay a whole lot of attention to some of the issues

So I asked for a link or two

I got my answer

sorta/kinda

[sandnsea]

30. Aaah, I see

Yeah, it's all over the media today. MSNBC has changed their web site so I've got no idea how to track down stories on it anymore.