"We clean up!" - The german nationalistic party

[Smith_3]

This poster of the "Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands" (NPD) is currently to be seen all over Hessen/Germany, due to the upcoming state parliamentary election:



Translation: "We clean up in Hessen!"

Gruesome, isn't it? Puts one in mind of our own immigration debate.

[puerco-bellies]

1. Ahh, those wackey Germans.

Hmm, wonder what's next..

:scared:

[Bonobo]

2. For some reason, it's more chilling in German to me... nt

[maddiejoan]

3. Warum ist das?

Die deutsche Sprache ist eine schöne Sprache.

It's chilling to me regardless of the language.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. It might be eine schöne Sprache, but it's still kinda chilling.

We Merkins haven't seen any actual German racial hatemongering represented graphically like that, generally, outside of WWII propaganda.

[Bonobo]

6. Ich bin nicht einverstanden.

Die deutsche Sprache ist nicht schöne. Es klingt wie ein hungriger Hund knurrend für Lebensmittel.

[maddiejoan]

9. Feh.

Ich denke, wenn ich gesagt, der Himmel war blau, würde man nicht mit mir einig.

[Bonobo]

11. Aber es ist nicht blau!

Und ich habe immer Abneigung gegen den Klang der deutschen Sprache verfügen. Ich studierte er für 4 Jahre.

[maddiejoan]

12. Ja. Ich weiß.

Ich habe nur das Lernen für sechs Monate. Ich habe einige deutsche Freunde in der virtuellen Spiel namens SecondLife.

[LynzM]

4. Are you sure that that's what it's implying?

I'm certainly aware of the parallels that the Turkish population has in Germany to the Mexican population in the U.S. Still, that seems awfully blatant for a country that's still trying to recover its imagine, in some ways, after what was done by the Nazis.

[bunkerbuster1]

7. Germans I knew 20 years ago were bitching about the Turks

I assume it's only gotten worse.

[Smith_3]

10. I'm absolutely sure that that's what they are implying.

There is a hot debate about "criminal foreigners" going on in germany right now. Its sounding "deport them!!" and "lock them up!!" all over the place right now.

edit: typo

[mogster]

8. Holy shit

That's racism, plain and simple.

[mogster]

13. Here's a good post describing the situation

Saturday, 8 December 2007
A warning from history: Poll: the Nazi NPD overtake the SPD in Saxony
According to the Deutsche Welle web site* a survey conducted by the Forsa Institute found Germany's Social Democratic Party (SPD) is less popular than the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD) in the eastern State of Saxony.
(...)
In the State elections in 2004, the SPD recorded its worst ever result, but even then it was marginally more than the rightist NPD's 9.2 percent. While the far-right party has also dropped points in the current poll, the fact is that the SPD is now seen as being less popular than a right-wing extremist Nazi party in the State of Saxony.
(...)
Since reunification, the SPD in the east of the country has never been able to gain the mass support of the German working classes like it does in Western Germany. The party is clearly paying the price for entering with the CDU in an unpopular National coalition, which has attempted to steal the social benefits that the German working classes have built up over the decades that followed WW2.

The SPD leadership in Berlin is beginning to wake up to the fact that simply telling the capitalist class to enrich themselves whilst covertly stealing the past gains of the working classes, is hardly good politics especially if your core support base is that very working class whose pockets you have been riffling whilst in government. The more so when there is a socialist party to the left of the SPD like the Left Party, which is hovering up working class support and been at the fore of the struggle against any reemergence of German fascism.

http://organizedrage.blogspot.com/2007/12/warning-from-history-poll-nazi-npd.html

[Smith_3]

14. Yup, the SPD screwed over their base pretty good.

Except, that it wasn't only lately within the coalition with the CDU, but already before that when they had a coalition with the green party. Imagine that: A coalition between greens and social democrats, taking away workers benefits.... :shrug:

[mogster]

16. You see exactly the same thing happening here

The Labour party being more or less the 'conservative light' and the Socialist Left tugging along. Only difference is, Norway is a very rich country due to all the oil money, so the poverty and unemployment is less of a factor.
Anyho, the signs are the same all over Europe, I think. One can safely say that Joschka Fischer underperformed when you think about the tradition he comes from, not to mention Tony Blair, lol.
Here's the Norwegian version of the NPD poster, from the election campaign of the Progress party in 2005:

The text reads: "The perpetrator was of foreign origins." (A press quote we're often reading)
More about this party (You should notice that their rethoric and extremism has accellerated since this 2002 article):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,,824319,00.html

[Smith_3]

17. Damn, and I considered moving to Norway to get away from racism...

:(

[mogster]

18. I'm sorry

You can still come over ;-) Tell me, are you from Germany?

The European right wing parties are being enabled by the Bush government and the 'war' on terror, I think. They won't be diminished until he's gone. Bush, the neo nazi enabler - that's something to consider.

[Smith_3]

19. Yup, live in germany.

And yes, I feel that all that "war on terror" and "confronting radical islam" is throwing major waves over here. Old fashioned racists of all sorts suddenly feel like its trendy to spew their age old venom again. Its all the old shit over again, from the eighties and earlier, but with new painting. We've had debates over turkish immigrants for ages, but now since "radical islam is on the loose", the right wingers feel like they can openly preach hate as much as they want, since they are rightfully adressing the terrorist threat. Its really shitty, because with all the domestic problems we have, elections get decided over plebiscites to deny second generation immigrants the voting rights now.

[mogster]

20. I recognize everything you say

It's exactly like in Norway. It's force majeure, so it takes presendence also over the left-liberal politicans, which too often just switch to hardline politics. They just don't seem to have any other answer, which is very disappointing.
I remember the debate about turkish immigrants in Germany. There was this journo that went undercover and spent many months, if not years, dressed as an immigrant. What was his name? Ah, can't remember. He revealed a lot of the hidden social repression of immigrants, and gave a touching picture of the situation they lived under.

Welcome to the DU, BTW. I see you've been here for a while, but it's always nice to see liberal Europeans, and especially Germans, here. We should team up against the rw flow in Europe ;-)

[Smith_3]

21. I always thought Germany was a liberal place. But in many regards, it isn't.

It seems as if everytime the European Union passes some law that restricts peoples individual freedoms (like the six-month saving of all internet traffic records), Germany takes pride in being the first to fully implement it. We are also number one in taking care of copyright violations (our chancellor Merkel spoke about that with pride over new years) and censoring our media (many american pr0n sites cannot be acessed any more under the premise that they don't have a valid age verication system, wereas this regulation was really the result of the german pr0n industry sueing over the product they are trying to sell being given away for free). Our industry also cheered over the new airport security measures banning all liquids from flights, because unlike in the states were you can fill a bottle of water from a fountain after security checks, here you must buy little half-liter bottles for three euro(!) each. Right now the Hessian state governer (who pulled funding from the judicial system, largely reducing the number of active judges and police forces) is running a campaign to get reelected based on youth crime, making tougher laws for teenagers and applying adult jurisdiction to minors (the crime rates rose sky high under his watch).

[Smith_3]

15. Here's another one: "Gute Heimreise" - "Have a nice trip home"

Muslim women with plastic bags