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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:25 PM Original message |
The centrist Clinton administration |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ever notice that posts that show the Clintons acting like Republicans |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. it's not DU, it's DMe. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. let's just kick this up next to the Hillary hate thread |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well I am a centrist so I suppose I'm ok with this |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. it is centrist rhetoric which concedes half the battle to the extreme right |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'm an anti-marxist as well. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Did I say anything pro-marxist? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Are you seriously worried about the U.S. going Marxist? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. it would if Kucinich was elected President |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Clinton-era policies were to the right of Eisenhower Republicans. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. not every voter or DUer is old enough to know that. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Not a shred of doubt about it. nm |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. if you don't have a "shred of doubt" about it |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Here ... I'll draw you a picture (or two) ... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. that is an accomplishment of Clinton somehow? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. On top of which it was Ike's appointees on SCOTUS who found for Roe v. Wade. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I didn't say it was |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Reagan and Bush also raised taxes |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. you can't begin to compare the tax increases under |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. What is the point of all this? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. sigh.... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. A case could be made that Clinton policies were to the RIGHT of Nixon. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Indeed. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. considering that the Republicans controlled Congress for the |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I think I answered that - it was his "leadership" that lost Congress for us. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. his leadership on liberal issues, yes. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I might remind you that Gore got more votes than Bush |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. OTOH, Gore helped found the DLC |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. How is eliminating half of all welfare & public housing instead of all of it "half a loaf" for you? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. that is nonsense, |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. Clinton's economic policies were Eisenhower Republican |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. he did veto two welfare "reform" bills |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yeah, he caved without much of a fight, unfortunately. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Karl Albert? Karl? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Rayburn - McCormack - Albert - O'Neill |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. you are old, father William |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Nixon SUPPORTED WELFARE, public housing and a living wage. Clinton does not. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. The country generally has swung right as far as I can tell |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I would argue a couple of points on that |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. "....moderation in principle is always a vice." - Tom Paine K&R |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, I am a Clinton supporter and I am going to reply. Number 1 |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I am as happy to hear contrary opinions as I am to offer them. |
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