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[Hoof Hearted]

I didn't see one yet so........ best of luck to all three candidates. I hope this is a good night for all democrats.

[Hoof Hearted]

1. So shit-wit Mitt won Michigan. ugh.

[jgraz]

3. This isn't necessarily that bad

It continues the chaos on the Repig side of the primary.

[Hoof Hearted]

11. That is the good side. On the more selfish side, I was just hoping to not have to see his face

anymore. I have an irrational amount of revulsion upon seeing his face or hearing his voice.

But, you're right.

[Fire Walk With Me]

46. It's not irrational at all. He's a grade-A opportunist and he makes my skin crawl.

Your intution need not be questioned.

[Sydnie]

24. And causes each and every one of them to spend more money

to outspend each other to attack each other rather than attack us.

Works for me!

[Patsy Stone]

60. Much better than McCain

getting more mo.

[fenriswolf]

2. fine all start it off

not watching it cause they exluded kucinich and i dont wanna drink the Koolaid, i will be keeping an eye on this thread to see what JE has to say

[Hoof Hearted]

6. One of these people will be the Democratic party's nominee, and any one of them has the potential

to be a great president and I firmly believe that. It seems worthwhile to see what each of them have to say.

[TransitJohn]

48. WTF is the "Democrat party"????

Who are you?

[Hoof Hearted]

136. I'm a person stuck in rural Nebraska. It must be a regional thing as I explained down-thread.

There was no intent to offend. As a person lucky enough to be surrounded on three of four sides with neighbors who are Democrats (it's an island of sanity), I can assure you that the vernacular is common among Democrats here and thought nothing of. As I said, no intent to offend.

[bdamomma]

127. JE is focusing on the issues.

now this stupid questions your greatest strength and weakness?, aren't we looking for more substantive questions to the real issues that are plaguing this country. what no questions about Iraq, global warming, the enviroment, energy, education?????

[Pastiche423]

4. Fuck the debates

They are anti-democratic!

[still_one]

13. Did any Democrat in the debates speak in favor of Denis participating? /nt

[Pastiche423]

44. Don't know

But if they are on stage participating in the corporate debates, it shows where their alligence to our demcracy stands w/them.

They don't stand for all, they stand only for themselves.

I'm extremely disappointed in Obama. Is this the change he speaks of?

[still_one]

96. I would still like to find out, though I doubt it anyone did /nt

[Pastiche423]

121. Whether they did or did not

no longer matters.

Tonight they have proved they are corporate candidates.

[still_one]

133. That is why I said "almost" as cynical as you. I would still be gratified if one or more did

I understand your position though, and I sure can't blame you

[bdamomma]

5. listening on C Span radio, if we all want to stand on solidarity with

Dennis. Boycott MSNBC

http://www.c-span.org/

[BuyingThyme]

7. Is this the official thread?

:hi:

[bdamomma]

14. hi buying thyme!!!

is Mike on tonite commenting on the debate? :hi: :hug:

[BuyingThyme]

31. He's on. I've got 'em both going.

He's talking about Dennis.

:hi:

[bdamomma]

49. oh thanks I would like to know what he is saying.

listening to John Edwards right now.

[BuyingThyme]

63. He went on to talking about Huckabee talking to some Fundy Pukes.

Mike played sounds where Huck said he would try to change the Constitution so that it would be in line with the teachings of Jesus. The Nazis in the audience approved. (Yes, really.)

Mike went ape.

[Hoof Hearted]

33. I dunno. I didn't see one? So I made one.

Maybe I'm just impatient. If so, I apologize.

[BuyingThyme]

I was just kidding. I don't know what an official thread is or

whether they actually exist.

Your thread is beautiful.

[Hoof Hearted]

97. Thank you. I watered it and gave it special thread food, and put it in it's favorite pot.

I think it looks lovely.

[bdamomma]

8. oh shit started off with the race question shit, grow up huh?

[Hoof Hearted]

28. Well, the media has been in love with the idea of a gender or race war in the Democratic party

since it became clear that we actually had more than one worthwhile candidates who were not just going to lie down and watch my candidate walk by.

They want it to be a big smackdown. The idea that Obama is a sexist, Hillary is a racist, or Edwards is either, is absurd.

[Lilith Velkor]

The idea of both at once is making them cream their jeans

And btw, it's DemocratIC party, unless you are OK with being accused of being a closet repuke. Cheers.

[Hoof Hearted]

114. Sorry, maybe it's a regional thing. After all I am stuck in Nebrasaka.

It's getting better, but please believe me when I tell you that Democrats here refer to our party just the way I have. I will change it so as not to offend, it's not my intention.

[Individualist]

9. It will be a dog and pony show, not a debate

...and I won't be watching.

[Yael]

10. "Its not about sex, but I, as a woman"

*sigh*

[Yael]

12. Points to Hillary for not answering the question asked -- it was bait

[Lint Head]

15. Somebody say something dammit!

Give me something to vote for. My question: What are you going to do about the criminal acts that have been committed by Bush administration? :dem:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

56. I think edwards kicked'ed butt'ed with that answer

on the whole slate make up

[HughMoran]

16. This is going to be the most important debate for me

I am eagerly listening to see how the candidates deal with responding to the recent bullshit thats been flying back and forth. I am listening to every word.

[bdamomma]

17. recs please and can the questions about race please.

we are in economic crisis among other crises, get on with it.

Oh Edwards had a great response, can't Russert just move on there are other issues to be discussed. this is really disgusting, get on with it.

[spanone]

20. russert loves making them squirm...they are handling it well imo

[jgraz]

22. on to GP

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

18. Um, might I say, fuck Russert? In the most academic of terms.

:mad: MKJ

[bdamomma]

30. exactly.

move on and ask questions.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

19. Please R.

MKJ

[Endangered Specie]

21. is it online streaming?

thanks in advance

[spanone]

25. i'd check here...

www.msnbc.com

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

26. Yes, with about a six or seven second delay.

MKJ

[halobeam]

27. msnbc.com

[Endangered Specie]

37. thanks... guess I should have checked the obvious first...

just got back from a meeting.

[earthside]

23. Not watching.

"I hope this is a good night for all democrats."

Too late for that since the 'big' three and the Nevada Democratic party didn't insist on Kucinich being included.

I'm not a Kucinich backer, but jeez it just isn't right that he isn't included.

There are two new episodes of 'Throwdown With Bobby Flay' on the Food Network. That will probably have more fireworks than this 'debate'.

[bdamomma]

45. I hate to say it, but the last debate I ended nodding off.

so dry without Dennis or even the other candidates. Biden I loved listening too. I hope Edwards hits hard, there are 3 candidates on stage not 2.

[DS1]

29. I'm not boycotting msnbc, this is the first debate I've had chance to watch

due to it streaming

[patrice]

93. Too bad!! This isn't really a debate. These questions STINK!

The NH debate was MUCH better than this.

[WinkyDink]

32. If Obama wants to change things, he could have stood in solidarity with DK.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

34. I'm disgusted that Kucinich isn't there. But, these three are the top candidates and I hope they

kick Russert's ass to the curb.

Please.

MKJ

[patrice]

35. Can we move on the REAL issues PLEASE!!

[Glimmer of Hope]

39. No kidding. Get over it. Move on!

[Habibi]

72. You're RIGHT.

The real issue: whom does the coprophiliac--I mean, er, corporate--media deem appropriate for their viewership to hear.

[spanone]

36. can we move on now?....going on 15 minutes....

[shadowknows69]

40. Apparently not

Have to ask Hillary about Bob Johnson.

[spanone]

43. sheesh

[ShaneGR]

38. Not sure why Kucinich people are upset, he practically handed Iowa to Obama

Don't make me break out at least 3 links.

[cui bono]

137. What does that have to do with msnbc excluding him from this "debate"?

[Blackhatjack]

41. Hillary is trying to assume the role of the spokesperson for all three...n/t

[global1]

55. Hillary Won't Disavow This Guy Bob Johnson's Comments....

she says he issued a statement about what he meant. Come on. We all knew what he was doing and saying and she won't disavow it.

[annabanana]

42. Russert is a dick... picking away at this trivia..n/t

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

51. Yeah. He really doesn't have any favorable qualities, in any category.

MKJ

[bagimin]

47. John said millworker...

take a drink

[shadowknows69]

54. What's a white male candidate to do against historical HillBama?

WTF!!

[OzarkDem]

50. The white male question for Edwards

He handled it very well.

[annabanana]

52. Another race question... . .get off it already. .

[bdamomma]

71. what total BS the American people want to hear about the issues.

[spanone]

53. questions are all about politics no fucking issues

this is american idol debate

[OzarkDem]

61. Hillary and Edwards are trying to talk issues

Obama is rhetoric and platitudes.

Oy bipartisanship

[halobeam]

70. almost twenty minutes of answering gossip

get to each candidates policies? yeah right.

[tekisui]

57. WTF?? Can we get REAL questions???

[patrice]

69. NO!

Media elites would have to talk about stuff that they know NOTHING about.

[annabanana]

58. Williams mentions "crying" and "hurt feelings" business. . .

[annabanana]

64. I wonder how far into the "debate" the first actual question will be???

[JerseygirlCT]

59. "Likeability"

And she's looking daggers at him.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

62. Holy shit, why don't Williams and Russert just come out and say "Admit it, you hate her/him"

Argh. :mad: MKJ

[Patsy Stone]

66. These two

"moderators" will just not let this die.

Give it up, already!

[annabanana]

67. I know, pathetic isn't it..

[Glimmer of Hope]

65. What the hell is this? Isn't this suppose to be a debate?

[spanone]

68. not ONE serious question has been asked 20 minutes on

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

75. No shit, no Iraq, no economy, no Iran.

MKJ

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

79. No healthcare.

MKJ

[shadowknows69]

76. At least Edwards is staying on message

Pushing his points evenin the face of non-questions. That's good.

[debbierlus]

I couldn't stomach the opening footage....

I know I am voting for John. I was curious to see how he did, but not curious enough to watch a travesty.

This is pure BULL SHIT. I shut it off right after they announced Mitt won Michigan.

[Mark Twain Girl]

73. Helloooo, it's we the broke health care-less American people here, can we get a question about us??

[annabanana]

74. Edwards brings up lobbyists & insurance companies etc YAY

[spanone]

77. what the hell was that?

[RL3AO]

78. Did any one hear what that guy was saying?

[Seen the light]

81. "These are race-based questions!"

That's all I could make out.

[halobeam]

87. stop w/ the race based questions! thats what he said...woot

[shadowknows69]

88. Something about race based questions

[Bonobo]

91. I think he said these questions were "Race Baiting". I agree completely. nt

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

95. I hope he was saying, "FUCK YOU RUSSERT AND WILLIAMS" . Hopefully.

MKJ

[Greylyn58]

80. Please!!! Ask some real questions!!

Stop with these crappy, piss-ant, questions!!!!

Ask about how they plan to leave Iraq!
Ask how they plan to fix the economy!
Ask how they plan to make more, and better jobs!

Stop these damn stupid ass questions!!

[BuyingThyme]

82. Race based whaaaa?

[NoodleyAppendage]

83. Heckler! What was that?

Something about race bating question? I couldn't hear it.

J

[annabanana]

84. Audience objecting to "race based questions" from "you two"

[annabanana]

92. calling out brian & timmeh

[debbierlus]

106. Very nice.

[Glimmer of Hope]

109. Yeah. I don't blame him.

[gateley]

They're asking these inane questions because that's what they think the "public"

wants to hear. Ratings. Advertising dollars. $$$$

[babylonsister]

111. Yup. They want to see fists fly, but they're not getting that. nt

[high density]

85. heckler about "race based questions"

Don't blame ya buddy...

[robbedvoter]

86. What was the shout from the audience? I only heard "red faced"

[Endangered Specie]

89. uh oh HECKLERS!!!

[debbierlus]

101. Boy, it sounds really bad. They are STILL on race???

[annabanana]

102. not a heckler.. a pissed off American... mad at media stupid questions

[Dawggie]

90. Did anyone understand what that guy was yelling after Edwards spoke?

[SeattleGirl]

98. "Those are race-based questions" is what I heard. n/t

[robbedvoter]

107. I tend to agree.

[Dawggie]

118. That's what I thought. ???

:shrug:

[IDemo]

94. Did anyone catch what the heckler was saying?

[Yuugal]

100. he said enough with the race based questions nt

[Patsy Stone]

108. Were our mental transmissions that powerful?

:)

[annabanana]

119. lol I guess so!

[halobeam]

he said please stop asking raced based questions

[TerwilligeRedux]

103. do people read these threads?

or just post

[robbedvoter]

116. Several of us post pretty much at the same time

[debbierlus]

117. I read them, I am more interested in people's reactions then the dog & pony show

This one sounds nauseating.

[IDemo]

104. Stay tuned for this message from Taser, Inc.

[debbierlus]

110. That is some very funny dark humor there!

It is shameful what this nation has become.

[patrice]

105. Said something including "... these are Race based questions."

[bdamomma]

99. we should all make phone calls.

oh whew someone is sick and tired of the questions about race too. Very disappointing the country is in a crisis will someone please address the issues.

[annabanana]

112. strength & weaknesses question... timmeh looks chastised...

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

123. Good. If anything, these people in the audience should call them out, and it seems they are.

MKJ

[The River]

113. No Hillary

I can not imagine you being anything but a Senator.

[OzarkDem]

115. Obama is so non-specific

He sounds just like a candidate who isn't qualified yet.

[BuyingThyme]

122. Always.

But that usually plays in this country.

[patrice]

120. Damn! what a stupid stupid question Timmy!!!

[Seen the light]

124. 30 minutes in and not *1* substantive question so far

This debate sucks.

[halobeam]

130. I've already emailed this network.

They will get snail mail too. No Kucinich, no real issues discussed. No respect for our concerns that need to be addressed. This is a new kind of "Britney".

They flush us along with our country, right down the toilet.

[annabanana]

125. thread #2 up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=389

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

126. Hellooo, Russert and Williams, YOU SUCK!

ARGH. :mad: MKJ

[Marie26]

128. Edwards: My weakness is that I care too much!

Blah. At least Obama gave a real weakness.

[robbedvoter]

131. Compassionate Liberal

[robbedvoter]

134. Obama: Bush is efficient? Really? Howzabout Katrina?

[Neshanic]

129. Just tuned in to see Edward say "mill".

[Marie26]

135. lol, me too.

A mill town with a mill family in a mill state...

[annabanana]

132. THREAD #2 UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2692945&mesg_id=2692945