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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:18 AM
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Did Abraham Lincoln have a 'machine' when he debated Douglas?
I'm liking the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_douglas_debates">country lawyer more and more.

Oh, yeah, John Edwards, too!



Ides
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:23 AM
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1. Actually, Sir, Yes, He Did
The man was an experienced an shrewd party politician: it is one of the elements of his character that commends him to me.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:25 AM
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3. I wonder what he'd say about the debate formats now.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:43 AM
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7. These Are Not Debates, Sir: They Are Joint Press Conferences
My preference would be for each candidate to have a period for remarks, order by lot, within each of several rounds, and not a pundit in sight....
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:47 AM
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9. I could go for that, although I do like to see cross-examination.
What's your favorite fact about Lincoln's life?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:01 AM
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13. Too Many To Possibly Settle On Just One, Sir
But a favorite quote is one when a friend passed him in the street with his two sons in some squabbling disarray, and asked what was the matter: "The same thing that's wrong with the world. I've got three walnuts and they each want two."
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:03 AM
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14. That's a new one. Thanks!
Somehow, I bet you can relate!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:07 AM
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15. Small Squabbling Boys, Sir, Are Indeed A Feature Of These, My Declining Years....
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 03:07 AM by The Magistrate
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:18 AM
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20. I hope a few are ones you love.
And that they sit upon your knee and listen to your wisdom.

:hug:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:24 AM
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2. A machine? What do you mean a machine? n/t
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:26 AM
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4. A team of handlers.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:31 AM
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5. I'm sure he had a few people advising him...
and probably cheering him on when he debated Douglas.

Thank you for the clarification.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:36 AM
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6. Sure!
I still get goosebumps thinking of him penning the Gettysburg Address.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:44 AM
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8. I was a Lincoln/Douglas debater when I was in school...
They had just implemented them for competition that year. Our coach told us to read up on it before deciding on it. Took me ten minutes of reading to decide. I loved LD debates.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:48 AM
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10. Too bad there aren't even wax recordings of the originals.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:58 AM
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11. I thought you meant a teleprompter. Lincoln didn't have one of those... no, siree..
back in the day, we used to paint the words on horses and run 'em around in front of the candidates... we always painted the first horse pure white, so the candidates would know where the paragraphs started... and sometimes some of the stupider candidates would start their speech in the middle of a paragraph...it is where the term "dark horse" candidate came from, if I recall... yep...them were the days.

</geezer>
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:59 AM
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12. Now I have to go look.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 03:01 AM by IdesOfOctober
:spray:

How DID that term originate?

Nice work.

Ides

Edited to add: I'm back, and your version is better. I plan to spread that as an urban legend now, far and wide.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:15 AM
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16. LOL
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 08:26 AM by DemReadingDU

:rofl:

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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:49 AM
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21. Happy Birthday!
As your Zorastrian Nosepicker Missionaries carry the good news into parts unknown, they should spread this story, too. Two birds and all that.

Ides
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 08:28 AM
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17. Oh, my...
:spray::rofl:
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:42 AM
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18. Maybe not... but
Maybe not... but I'm sure he had a blog and his own webpage.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:47 AM
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19. Yes, and even though the steam-powered internet of the 1860s was very slow
It still looked better than Free Republic.
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IdesOfOctober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:34 AM
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22. Smelled better, too.
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