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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:33 AM
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Aspartame breaks down into FORMALDEHYDE under heat
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:34 AM by berni_mccoy
I can't believe the sweetener wars going on here. Amazing.

But I don't use Aspartame. Why? Because, under heat and through metabolism, it breaks down into some very dangerous CHEMICALS, including FORMALDEHYDE. Think about cases of diet coke sitting in a hot warehouse or a single can sitting in your hot car. It's already broken down into dangerous chemicals by the time you drink it.

I prefer the all natural solution of sweet leaf (stevia) and raw sugar.

Honestly, ask yourself, are you really going to take a drop of FORMALDEHYDE with every can of coke you drink? If not, don't consume aspartame.

Formaldehyde will DENATURE your organs as you live. It doesn't leave your system. And if you don't believe me, read your own governments studies on it: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9714421&dopt=Abstract

For more info, see: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/Jan03/012203/02P-0317_emc-000205.txt

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1392232

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=E87E92E7-BDB5-82F8-F66EEB20FCAD4D24

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Some of these articles go back TWENTY YEARS. Your gov't has approved a substance they know can cause health problems in humans.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:44 AM
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1. Well, ethanol (grain alcohol) breaks down into acetaldehyde ( a similar compound)
For what it's worth, I don't use artificial sweeteners. But I do drink alcohol.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:56 AM
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5. The human body is designed to process alcohol
and has built-in reaction to the formation of acetaldehyde. Acetaldehyde is present only temporarily, and it stays in the blood stream. Of course, if you drink too much, you *will* denature both your brain and your liver. But alcohol is also a drug and a controlled substance, not a food additive. There's a big difference in who can purchase it and use it and how it is intended to be consumed.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:44 AM
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2. I hate the after tastes of all diet stuff, good thing!
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:45 AM by Rainscents
Lot of research (related to health problems) about Aspartame is out there, I find that, people pick and choose which report to post. It's really sad that, people are not concern about drinking this stuff. I have few friends who has MS and before on set of MS, they were drinking all diet drinks. They now wishes, they'd listened and or did researched. My friends have real bad case of MS, they are in wheel chair now and can't hardly dress them self.

BTW; Thanks for posting this.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:58 AM
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6. Some people think their mercury fillings in their teeth caused their MS
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 AM by Lex


but the truth is that no one is certain why MS is caused.

The interesting thing about MS is that it is incredibly more prevalent in places with colder climates. No one knows why. http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/neurol/MSgeog.html



Worldwide, MS occurs with much greater frequency in higher latitudes (above 40° latitude) away from the equator, than in lower latitudes, closer to the equator. Even within one geographic area, however, where latitude and climate are fairly consistent, prevalence rates may differ significantly. These differences demonstrate that geographical factors are not the only ones involved.

MS is more common among Caucasians (particularly those of northern European ancestry) than other ethnic groups, and is almost unheard of in some populations, such as Inuit, Yakutes, Hutterites, Hungarian Romani, Norwegian Lapps, Australian Aborigines, New Zealand Maoris. Thus, ethnicity and geography seem to interact in some complex way to impact prevalence figures in different parts of the world.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/Sourcebook-Epidemiology.asp


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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:18 AM
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12. another fact
It also has to do with where your first fifteen years of life are spent, as to your chances of coming down with MS.

As for myself, I grew up in CO and no one in my family had experienced it, although since then, my cousin has been diagnosed. There is a slightly greater chance of getting it if your family has any cases of it.

My two daughters have a (if my memory serves me correctly!) 50 times greater chance of coming down with MS because I won the 'MS lotto".
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:02 AM
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11. the ms society has debunked this theory
I also have MS and if this was true, one of my best friends would also have MS. She drinks 10-12 diet pops per day.

I have no doubt that aspartame is bad for you, but it does not cause or further the case of M.S.

Unfortunately, there is more that we don't know than we know about MS. They theorize that it is an autoimmune disease, but are not certain of it.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/headlines-aspartame.asp


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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:30 AM
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13. The argument about the friend is similar to saying that
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 04:34 AM by pnwmom
cigarettes don't cause cancer because you know a heavy smoker who didn't get cancer. That doesn't prove anything.

The fact is, they haven't nailed down exactly what causes MS and it could be that there are different triggers for different people. Also, some people may have MS-like symptoms that are aggravated by substances that don't bother most people.

I don't have MS, but I have other neurological symptoms caused by aspartame intake -- so I avoid it now. But if it can cause other neurological problems, it stands to reason that in some people it may be related to MS-like symptoms.

The article you posted only says that no reliable study proves that aspartame causes MS. But that isn't the same as proving that aspartame NEVER triggers MS, or MS-type symptoms.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:51 AM
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3. So Does Urised, A Urinary Tract Antiseptic/Analgesic
Urised breaks down into a small quantity of formaldehyde - it's supposed to!

I don't use aspartame; I have kidney disease and avoid it for that reason - but the formaldehyde formation (if it happens with merely consuming aspartame) may actually have some benefit!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:54 AM
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4. That's a drug, not a food additive that people drink on a daily basis
Big difference.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:01 AM
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7. Some People Take Urised Daily
Just saying. Hell, I'm a diabetic who needs real goddamn sugar for the hypos, so you won't find me near aspartame, even without the kidney failure!
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:05 AM
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8. Use Splenda --
we don't know if it's killing us yet so ignorance is bliss.

:evilgrin:
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 05:20 AM
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15. It may not kill me...
...but Splenda gives me migraines and the trots. I think I'll just stay fat.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:07 AM
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9. You know, I think the stuff tastes nasty. I don't know why anyone would use it...
I don't know if life is worth it if you can't enjoy anything. Don't eat too much of anything, and you'll probably be ok.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:13 AM
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10. Artificial sweetners are very handy
for us insulin junkies with the sweet tooth. But I gave up aspartame for splenda.

I guess we'll see what happens twenty years from now.

:shrug:
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:57 AM
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14. So do people
Big fuck
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:35 AM
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16. I've heard this as a possible cause of Gulf War Syndrome
A soldier friend of mine described pallets and pallets of diet sodas sitting in the sun, cooking. And that's what a lot of soldiers drank -- endless amounts of it.
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