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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:44 PM
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While I'm no fan of Hillary . . . I do note the NY Times today, front page ---
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:05 PM by defendandprotect
MacCain and Clinton Caputure Tough Wins

Large photo of MacCain, which is centered on himself and his wife ---

a photo about 3/4's smaller of Hillary and an audience below it ---

In fact, someone would have to confirm that it is Hillary the photo is so indistinct --


The usual NY Times treatment of females ---


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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:09 PM
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1. The usual NY TImes treatment of females......
Huh?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 PM
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2. I think they mean 'women'. 'Females' includes dogs, cats, trees...but you are right about the NYT.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:53 PM
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4. No ... I mean females ---
Males include dogs, cats, trees --- and I'm still right about the NYT ---

what is this aversion to the use of "female" ---

it's the opposite of male ---

don'tcha know . . . ?


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:54 PM
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6. "Women" suggests a female of some age --- FEMALE doesn't ---
FEMALE includes all --- young, old and in between ---


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:49 AM
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9. 'Females' is not exclusive to humans and is seen as insulting. 'Girls' are always specified..
because they make headlines so rarely.

'Female' is best used as an adjective not a noun.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:54 PM
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11. So . . . we can't use the term "Male" either . . . because that's the opposite --- ???
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 08:04 PM by defendandprotect
and it is not exclusive to humans and is seen as insulting. 'Boys' are always specified.. -- ?????

I think something got started here which is way off the track and we should keep at this conversation ---



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:14 PM
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12. Who thought up this nonsense . . . ???
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 08:14 PM by defendandprotect
Since when aren't "females" the female of the species????
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:53 PM
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5. You never noticed how females are invisible to the NY Times?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:51 AM
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10. It's also the way they are visible. There's a rebellion going on in the Book Review section...
for example.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:53 PM
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3. Why is the media allowed to control elections in this country? nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:56 PM
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7. Right . . . !! And, I don't know that we can argue that CLINTON should have
had "top billing" in this report --- based on money she's raised, perhaps?

But I don't like the way MacCain was pushed forward and above HRC overall in this report ---

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:03 AM
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8. You're correct. There's no doubt in my mind corporations are controlling our elections.....
... my problem is that candidates are kowtowing to corporations. Some more than others.
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