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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 PM Original message |
THE UNITED STATES PRISON-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX |
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PaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is something we all should be talking about........ |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I think it was Chris Dodd who raised this problem during a debate |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. and our 'front-runners' raised their hands |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. and America's prisons subject torture on prisoners |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. grasswire |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. something that always confuses me too |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. I find that disgusting myself. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
77. particularly worrying when |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #77 |
88. It's more of that "eye for an eye" mentality. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. I am... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Big time K n R |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. and yet... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm hoping this is the LAST election |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. k&r -- thank you for bringing this up. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. excellent article and topic |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. Steal $5, you're a thief; steal $5 million, you're a financier |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. how true |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. Another issue trampled by horse race politics. n/t |
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2hip (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
13. Exceptional research and presentation! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. this seems to be one source |
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countryjake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
14. Until people are there, they really don't care. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
15. when you have such a HUGE prison population |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
18. All true - thanks - here's an excellent radio program on this... |
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. RE: your clip. what changed in the 70's? The "war on drugs" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Yes, of course, that's what the radio show is about... |
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I hadn't listened to the radio show when I first replied... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
80. the kind of social engineering our "leaders" love |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R n/t |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. The relatively small number of views and high proportion of recs says |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. Hefty R&K! |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
22. More on U.S. Prisons ... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. Hell yeah, I'll kick that. -n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. Gotta find some way to involve large sectors of that "surplus" population |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's a travesty... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R -- The War on Drugs shredded the Constitution before Bush ever set foot in the White House. |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. a lot of the 'credit' goes to Bush41 |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
29. America loves locking up its pot smokers! |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. K & R |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
31. This is a HUGE issue |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. We saw this years ago...them half way houses charge big monies |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
54. Another important point |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. Conservative ASSHOLES....and they dare talk about Liberalism...Bastids |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I think you'll find this is one of the many issues |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
33. So...what do Obama, Hillary, and Edwards have to say about this? |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. kick - let the pot prisoners out first! talk about injustice |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. They're not only creeps, they are unamerican. |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. But don't you know.. |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. Permanently insane? |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. -\/- |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
82. thinking this is all about the neo-cons doesn't help |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Montel had a good program on the prison industry this morning, although |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. The prison-industrial complex is a disgrace |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. It's all very deliberate and all very interconnected |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. Item One ($$$$) is the Key |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. there are no levels of dangerousness |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. Somehow, I'm not surprised. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Lobbying ... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. Some statistics tell it all. This is one of them. Clinton was a big part of this. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. And Of Course... "Under One God" |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. First two words that pop into my head |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. In addition to having the most people in prison, we are also the most christian nation in the world. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. God bless Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. kick |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R I have been talking to people about this for years. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
53. This is real folks |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. This is probably why the right to vote was taken away. |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. Looks kinda like an Al Gore chart... |
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va4wilderness (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. Thanks! This is eye-opening. nt |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
58. Honored to K&R this. |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. If we don't invest in our kids now |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
63. I feel so much safer with all the marijuana criminals behind bars. |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. sad thing is, that seems to be the plan (n/t) |
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LeftofU (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. k & r |
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R'd earlier but want to keep this near the top. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
66. K&R |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
67. If you watch a program that comes on almost every night on MSNBC |
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Dawggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I've seen that shit. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
68. Omg. I know it is really bad...This is a EXCELLENT reminder |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
69. Painfully disturbing. |
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duhneece (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'm up in Santa Fe right now fighting for treatment vs incarceration |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
74. K&R |
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terryg11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
75. excellent information |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
76. China does execute for almost anything too. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
79. A Kick for a rare Progressive Thread |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
83. What would we eat if we didn't have prisons? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
84. I predict that this will be the subject of Michael Moore's next documentary |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
87. Felons can't vote |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
89. Calee-fournee-ya |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
91. One last kick |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-23-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
92. Kick....Thanks for this post and the work put into it... |
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