Lewis BLACK just said, "For the Dems not to find somebody to beat (Shrub) is STUNNING!1"

[UTUSN]

He went on, "It's like a normal person not being able to win in the Special Olympics!1"

[stravu9]

1. He's soo Right

Let's pray we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of Victory once again!

[lectrobyte]

5. Amen to that. I'm accepting of the struggle, but it's feeling like it's

going to be so hard this year to put the time into it that it deserves.

[seabeyond]

2. he also said, sat to listen to kerry and two minutes..... so he is saying on national tv

he needs to be entertained with short funny sound bites to be able to vote on a candidate and to actually have to listen to a person tell ideas, that may be dry yet kick ass and do able.... is toooooo much for him to do in looking at who to vote for

said a lot about the man in that very simple sentence and something that had me flabbergasted last election the number of people that could not listen to kerry for 20 minutes of their life to know what the man had to say because they had such poor attention abilities.

[Incitatus]

3. Diebold nt

[Echo In Light]

69. Diebold {Diabolic} coupled w/the public fervently disavowing conspiracy

Diligently obeying the establishment/corporate mantra. Blind obedience, unwavering allegiance.

[LulaMay]

4. That's because he's a JERK. I know a woman who dated him. She said he's a pig.

Funny as he is, it doesn't surprise me that he'd be less than thrilled about a woman being our leading candidate.

[Stephanie]

6. That's absolute bullshit. I've known Lew for 20 years.

He's a total sweetheart, and while I've never dated him, I truly adore him. I know him well and many of his friends and first met him around 1986. I've seen his shows when he was not known, appeared in shows with him, gone out, hung out, and he is the best. And I know his ex and I really doubt your story.

[LulaMay]

7. Maybe he is. But that's what she said, a nice woman too. His election jokes suck.

[Stephanie]

8. Really? Who is she? When did she know him?

Where? And how do you know and why is your profile hidden? Anybody can say anything on a message board. I don't believe you at all.

[LulaMay]

11. I can't tell you that. I shouldn't have posted it. Sorry.

Maybe he behaves differently when having a relationship with a woman than with friends. She said he wasn't a very nice person, and wasn't very nice to her. My friend is also about the sweetest, kindest woman I ever met working in entertainment. I don't care if you don't believe me. I shouldn't even have posted it here. But I do sense from his comedy that he doesn't like Hillary very much....and combined with what my friend said, makes me wonder if he has a bit of a problem with women.

Sorry if I've offended you. Of course I haven't known him well myself, and not for 20 years. Maybe it was just a bad relationship.

I paid 60.00 a ticket to see him at UCLA benefitting the Writers Strike and he didn't show up. My kids were really disappointed.

[lildreamer316]

10. Please tell him sometime..

that he has lifelong fans in me and my husband.
Sometimes,you can just tell, you know?

[Stephanie]

12. I certainly will if I see him.

These days I rarely run into him around town. The last time was in the spring. But even with his new fame he was as friendly and unpretentious as ever. Still a mensch. A truly great guy.

[NikolaC]

68. My Husband & I Love Him

We were in Vegas over the summer and were pleasantly surprised to see that he was performing in the hotel on the night we got there. We caught his show at the MGM Grand and thought he was hilarious! I especially loved it when he started going off on GWB and the Iraq "war", the audience was loving it, but a young blond couple got offended, got up, walked out and he made a joke about offending them as they left. The audience laughed at them on their way out. Brilliant.

[unc70]

78. He bought a place in Chapel Hill last year

I haven't seen him in town yet, but that might explain some of it. I was told he would be doing some things with Playmakers.

We were in the same class at UNC but I didn't really know him; I think my ex-wife did.

[Eurobabe]

64. Lucky you!! seriously... :)

I LOVE Lewis Black. My husband and I think he is hysterical. :rofl:

I had a chance to see him in Indianapolis when I lived in Cincy, but I had to work that night. If he ever tours Europe, we are so there. We still have Red, White and Screwed on our TiVO, it was recorded in January 2007. :hi:

[Stephanie]

9. Incidentally, what does the joke in the OP have to do with a woman candidate?

Are you reading something between the lines that the rest of us are missing? Because there's nothing about gender in the joke.

[tomreedtoon]

15. It has to do with ALL Democratic candidates.

It was from his "Red, White and Screwed" concert that was first broadcast last year on HBO. This person obviously just discovered it in its HEAVILY CENSORED form on Comedy Central.

That was before Hillary Clinton was even a wet dream for John McCain. Before Barack Obama was placed on Rush Limbaugh's dartboard.

Lewis is talking about every Democrat who ever bent over a dumpster for the pleasure of a Republican. And that includes, ladies and gentlemen, most of the elected Democrats in both houses of Congress.

[Stephanie]

20. So our friend LulaMay is dreaming things up.

This joke had nothing at all to do with HRC.

[LulaMay]

23. He jokes we have no good candidates perhaps because he thinks they're losers.

Because why?

And she's been in this for a long while, before his special.

I guess I don't like him putting our candidates down.

[Stephanie]

26. Are you for real? The show is two years old. It has nothing to do with HRC.

If you want to extoll your candidate at least inform yourself of the facts.

http://nymag.com/arts/tv/reviews/17178/

Lewis Black: Red, White, and Screwed/ Kathy Griffin: My Life on the D-List
By John Leonard
Published Jun 4, 2006

Onstage at the Warner Theater in Washington, D.C. (because the Kennedy Center refused to condone his road-rage overuse of fuck), Lewis Black is exasperated into ulcers by practically everything. This includes George Bush and the war in Iraq; Democrats who couldn’t find anybody better than John Kerry to run against Bush (“Like finding a normal person who would lose in the Special Olympics”); Dick Cheney; former fema-ite Michael Brown; opponents of gay marriage and evolution; and his own Old Testament God, Whom he calls “a prick.” Black does all this in a suit and tie, middle-aged enough to point to his eightysomething parents in the audience and call them “salt and pepper shakers.” Having grown up on Lenny Bruce and Mort Sahl, I’m still waiting for a 21st-century stand-up Toxic Avenger. But compared with Kathy Griffin, Black is Jonathan Swift.

[LulaMay]

29. It's a 1 1/2 years, and people were already talking about her running.

So, he doesn't like our candidates or think we can win.

Whatever.

I do.

[Stephanie]

31. Are you factually challenged? Is this a new kind of disability I'm unaware of?

The show is from 2006. He was talking about KERRY. Clinton announced in 2007? WHY DO YOU HATE LEWIS BLACK? (Joke is for the others, I know you don't get it.)

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/20/clinton.announcement/index.html

Hillary Clinton launches White House bid: 'I'm in'
POSTED: 1:24 a.m. EST, January 22, 2007

[LulaMay]

34. Are you a comedy writer? You should be!

June 2006. She announced in 2007, well after people were talking about her running.

I've seen his show. He wasn't just talking about Kerry losing, he was saying we can't win an election because we didn't have anyone in the wings who looked liked a good candidate.

I don't hate Lewis Black. I do think he has a bit of a problem with women, based on what my friend told me, and some of his jokes.

I shouldn't have said he was a jerk, so sorry for that.

I reacted thinking about her (my friend).

I've said enough now.

[LulaMay]

36. Seriously...

He was not unkind to my friend, who is very sweet, and I didn't like that.

She said he wasn't a very nice person.

[Stephanie]

41. "He was not unkind"?

Whatever she may or may not have said, she was wrong. I know him, I've known him for years, there are people here at DU who have known ME for years and will vouch for my word. I know that there are often two sides when a relationship breaks up, but your brand of gossip is extremely unfair. And the fact that you are tying it to HRC's candidacy is evidence IMO that you are makihg shit up.

[LulaMay]

43. I had written 'he was not nice', then changed it and didn't take out the 'not'.

I said am sorry for the post. But you kept writing me that I'm a liar and full of shit. I reacted because of my friend and shouldn't have posted what I did.

I'm not making anything up. I believe you feel he's a good friend. I don't know why you'd just say my friend was wrong. It's her experience and perspective.

I do think he has a problem with women, and that's how I took his routine.

It's my opinion.

[Stephanie]

45. And yet his routine had nothing to do wtih women.

So it's no wonder we think you are full of it.

[Pawel K]

62. Do yourself a favor and stop feeding the troll.

;)

[mondo joe]

22. I trust Lewis Black about 1,000 times more than I do you. NT

[LulaMay]

24. You don't even know me! How unfair. Really though, sorry to offend.

I think he's funny.

I shouldn't have posted anything personal about it here.

Stoopid me.

[mondo joe]

25. Exactly. I don't know you. So why would I trust your story, especially since you got the

details wrong?

[LulaMay]

27. I didn't get anything wrong. He jokes we have no good candidates. Why?

He knew like a lot of people at that time Hillary was likely to run.

[mondo joe]

28. You got the timeline wrong, and you have zero sense of humor.

Not much to trust there.

[LulaMay]

30. Actually, I do....I just don't like that part of his routine.

[Stephanie]

32. Because you have no idea what it's about.

Seriously, if you want to troll for your candidate try to get a better sense of the facts. This is ridiculous.

[orleans]

48. i love lewis black--bought the red white & screwed

saw it on tv then bought it and watched it.

my memory sucks but i don't recall any female/hillary hit piece in it.

did you ever see the movie "accepted"?

he was wonderful in it--and it's a great movie--very fun.

[Stephanie]

49. you don't recall it because there is nothing about H. R.Clinton in it.

The poster known as Lula is making stuff up. No I never saw "Accepted" What's that about?

[orleans]

50. it's hysterical! (accepted)

a handful of friends from high school can't get into various colleges so they start their own (so their parents don't kill them about not getting into college--they start this scam, rent an abandoned mental hospital, and start this bullshit college. only problem--other kids see it online, apply, the computer says they are all accepted and hundreds of kids show up for orientation.)

lewis black plays the part of a guy who is hired to act as a principle & teacher and he has some really fun moments in this.

kind of makes me think it is this generation's animal house. i've watched it repeatedly -- i love it.

(and if you haven't seen red, white & screwed i highly recommend that too)

[LulaMay]

52. I apologized. I am not making stuff up. Stop calling me a liar and badmouthing me.

[Stephanie]

54. You are claiming Lew said somethng about HRC which he actualy said about the Kerry campaign.

Your remarks are not factual and I will keep pointing that out until you stop lying.

[LulaMay]

58. I interpreted his jokes to be about more then Kerry. Stop calling me a liar.

I understand you got angry at what I posted because you know him. I apologized, many times. I am not making anything up. You defended your friend and I was reacting and defending mine, in the wrong way in the wrong place.

But I am not a liar and that was my opinion about his routine.

I guess nobody is allowed to make a mistake here without being sworn at, called a liar and run out on a rail.

[Stephanie]

59. You are correct.

If you come here and make false accusations and get all the facts wrong and lie about someone who is fighting the good fight, then yeah, you might get run out on a rail. Ta ta.

[LulaMay]

60. I have tried to be apologetic and gracious.

But I am not 'telling lies'. You didn't like what I said, and I replied that I understood and I apologized. I wouldn't give you my friends name for anything, especially since you know him. But just because I won't, you don't have any right to keep calling me a liar.

I've watched his show with my sons many times, and I never took his remarks to be just about Kerry. I had my own take and opinion, however incorrect you think it is or it may be.

You haven't considered for a moment that I reacted like I did because he did hurt my friend.

Now you are the one being inappropriate and making things up by calling me a liar.

[mondo joe]

33. You already bullshitted on the timeline. Stop now. You are just digging yourself in deeper.

[LulaMay]

35. Into what? Why do I have to prove anything to you? He wasn't nice to my friend. Sorry.

[mondo joe]

37. You don't have to prove anything to me. You're just full of crap IMO. Why is

my opinion so important to you?

[LulaMay]

39. Not. :)

[Binka]

40. Jesus you are tedious and and a fucking liar

Less than 110 posts and on ignore. You are a belligerent little shit. Grow the fuck up.

[LulaMay]

44. Thanks so much....but I'm not a liar. I already said I shouldn't have posted it.

[Binka]

46. Been There And Done The Dance With A Narcissistic Shit

Don't you have some place else to play? You are not selling me Lula. Try harder.

[LulaMay]

51. Quit swearing at me. I already apologized and explained why I reacted poorly.

[orleans]

47. hey--welcome to DU.

how's it going? (so far) :hi: :shrug:

[LulaMay]

53. Not very well apparently.

I guess I learned my lesson about posting personal stuff here. Very dumb of me.

[Stephanie]

55. Maybe you'll also learn your lesson about posting facts vs. fiction.

n/t

[LulaMay]

56. You are so gracious. I didn't post fiction.

[Stephanie]

57. You claimed that his remarks re: the 2004 campaign were somehow about HRC.

Then you used that spurious claim and also unfounded gossip about some supposed friend of yours to say that Lew opposed HRC and also women in general. Utter bullshit.

[orleans]

61. just get more of a feel for the place. everyone is sensitive about candidates now

and it seems like the fur flies even between friends. it's that time of the season.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZQMz0b-c54A

this fur-flying can sometimes be a real:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qlTbVFCZpHY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VXJG3EQy4AY

[TroglodyteScholar]

65. Dude, the joke was specifically about the 2004 election...

...and how Kerry was too long-winded to appeal to the average voter.

Could the fact that you relate the joke to Clinton reflect your own misgivings about her? Perhaps a bit of denial?

[LulaMay]

73. TO EVERYBODY posting this. He jokes about 2008 AND says every 4 years it gets worse.

[LulaMay]

75. The media WAS talking about Hillary running for president in 2006 when he did the show.

Look it up. In fact she was about the ONLY candidate they had begun talking about, except for wondering about Gore and if Kerry would run again.

I can have my opinion and should not be called a liar because others don't like them.

[LulaMay]

76. I aplogized for my personal remark, but I should not be sworn at, called a liar.

End of my remarks.

So much for trying to apologize to some people on this site.

[TroglodyteScholar]

77. You seem to have a problem telling what direction any given sentiment is coming from...

You accuse Lewis Black b/c the media was talking about Hillary in '06--making a grand assumption about what he was saying...

Then you post three replies to my single post, talking about namecalling, etc, when all I did was correct your mistaken assumptions.

You are suffering some kind of paranoia where every sentiment you hear and don't like comes from the amorphous "them." Then you lump in whomever you want to with your "them."

Also, Lewis Black is a comedian--in other words, he tells jokes. If you don't like his jokes, don't pay him any attention.

Last bit of advice--see a doctor.

[fascisthunter]

79. I Know Someone Who Knows Someone Who

knows all

[Junkdrawer]

13. An hour and a half of Bush/Cheney jokes - he does 30 seconds of Kerry jokes...

and THAT'S what you post....

Interesting...

[bridgit]

14. Lewis Black ain't no Mort Sahl...

"A conservative is someone who believes in reform. But not now."

"Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen."

"My life needs editing."

"People tell me there are a lot of guys like me, which doesn't explain why I'm lonely."

"Reagan won because he ran against Jimmy Carter. If he ran unopposed he would have lost."

"Washington couldn't tell a lie, Nixon couldn't tell the truth, and Reagan couldn't tell the difference.

"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives."

"The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything."

"The media are only as liberal as the conservative businesses that own them."

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward."

"President Bush is supporting Arnold but a lot of Republicans are not, because he is actually quite liberal. Karl Rove said if his father wasn't a Nazi, he wouldn't have any credibility with conservatives at all."

"A conservative is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run."

Mort Sahl

[tomreedtoon]

16. Thank God. Mort Sahl was a yawning bore.

He was unable to talk to anyone who wasn't reading Commentary, Dissent, or their joint publication Disenttary.

I seriously tried to watch his comedy dozens of times. I tried to find humor in his written stuff. In comedy, your mileage will always vary, but with Sahl, I never got out of the garage.

[bridgit]

18. never thought of him so much as 'a comedian', he was a satirist, there's a difference...

whether you personally ever made it out of the garage is another matter, Sahl paved the way for many to follow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Sahl look, i've lived with stand up comics and comedy writers, some venues love the screaming, angsty, arm waving stuff...others do not. welcome to: The Performing Arts :thumbsup:

[Beelzebud]

17. He's right.

[Jamastiene]

19. Leave it to Lewis Black to make me

:spray:

He never misses a beat, either. He's usually right.

[Norwood]

21. The truth sometimes hurts

He's absolutely right.

[fujiyama]

38. Lewis Black is entertaining

but I don't take his political commentary seriously. His nature of cynicism is great for some laughs, but extending it any further is lazy. Bush had many advantages as a war time incumbent and with his henchmen ran one of the nastiest smear campaigns in US political history.

[Stephanie]

42. That is a legitimate criticism.

I am glad to see someone disputing Lew's contentions on the merits instead of on spurious bs.

[spanone]

63. i like Lewis, but he should know the process is still ongoing.

[Tyler Durden]

66. "If it wasn't for my HORSE, I wouldn't have spent those two years in college...."

GOD I wish there was a "Head Explodes" smilie!

Was that not a GREAT schtick or WHAT?

[Blarch]

67. I like Lewis.

But this dumb fuck needs to look at the national polls. Our candidates beat their candidates, on all levels. He acts as if we have a weak field.

[tomreedtoon]

70. What candidates are you talking about?

Again (I sigh from exasperation) he did this show last year!

At that time, the Fembot, the Student Council Candidate, John Edwards Does Not Exist, and Dennis Kucinich Even More Does Not Exist weren't even candidates then.

I haven't heard him talk about the next Democrats to blow the run for the White House, but I'm looking forward to it. And don't doubt it; the DLC has managed to pull defeat from the jaws of victory in Presidential and Congressional elections for quite some time now.

[L. Coyote]

71. It could happen twice if the People don't catch on to how it happened the first time!

If we do not go into Nov. 2008 with a truth perspective on the Bush years and how the Executive IS a Junta,
the overthrow will not be undone as provided by a string of words, The Constitution providing free elections.

First, it is only a free election if the electorate has all the facts, and is actually FREE to form opinions based on the TRUTH!
That hurdle is our first priority as a society, or the others may not matter.

Second, it is only a free election if votes do count, and count as cast.
If they do not, the first hurdle, Will of the People, can be overthrown!

[robbedvoter]

72. Kerry won. But thanks both candidates for allowing this perception to spread

It would have been nice if one of you would have championed the truth in this.

[Political Heretic]

74. You don't know that.

No one does, that's the problem.