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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:15 AM
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Group takes statements about UFO sightings
Source: Houston Chronicle

DUBLIN, Texas — Interviewers with the Mutual UFO Network met with about 200 people who said they saw something mysterious in the night skies over Stephenville in late December and early January.

"We believe there is some sort of phenomenon in action here," said Kenneth Cherry, director of the network's Texas chapter. "We see a pattern. But it will take months to investigate."

The network is dedicated to "scientific study of UFOs for the benefit of humanity," according to its Web site.

While members of the organization met Saturday with the witnesses, at least a couple hundred onlookers gathered as well, some wearing aluminum-foil hats.



Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/5471189.html



And to think the GOP hacks at Faux and other places have beat up Dennis Kucinich for believing.
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 03:11 AM
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1. Not to mention President Carter.
He's seen one too. Oh, and former Arizona Gov. Symington. =)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:20 AM
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2. Lots and lots of reponsible and trained people have seen them
"Move on. Nothing to see here." - Skeptics
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:26 AM
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3. Like these guys..
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 05:35 AM by rAVES
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:00 AM
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4. I am a skeptic...
as everyone should be. I have never seen one, even if I did it would be hearsay. Until the hard evidence comes in, I will remain skeptical about the UFOs.

I do not know why they just dont land and say 'Yeah, we punk'd your ass.'
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:33 AM
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5. I saw one up close and detailed-like (along with 2 other witnesses)
from about 30 feet away. So I will at least admit I personally know they exist.

I always add the caveat: But I can't positively say where it was from or who was driving it.

Didn't see the driver (pilot?), it had no identifying marks that I recognized as such.


My Favorite Master Artist: Karen Parker GhostWoman Studios
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Altean Wanderer Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:08 AM
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6. Can you tell us where and when? ...
I believe that UFO's exist - the evidence is overwhelming - but like you I'm not sure if they're real extraterrestrials or something else along the high-wierdness spectrum.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:41 AM
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7. The only thing that there is overwhelming evidence for
is that people sometimes see things they can't identify. As for evidence that these "UFO"s are of extraterrestrial origin, there is not one bit of it that's credible.

People want to believe that they are alien, so they look for evidence that proves their theory and ignore the mountains of evidence and logic the points to them NOT being alien.

I'll believe when we have a "flying saucer" in our hands.

What would it take for you NOT to believe?
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:44 PM
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16. Bees on the battlefield - and other US military experiments....
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 12:45 PM by jus_the_facts
.....I'd guess *they're* testing holographic imaging??? :tinfoilhat:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,2105205,00.html

Last week the Pentagon confirmed that it has considered developing a "gay bomb", an aphrodisiac pheromone designed to make enemy forces so attracted to one another that the US could just march in and take over. In 2003, when I was writing The Men Who Stare At Goats, a book about US military craziness, I happened to meet the colonel in charge of nurturing the gay bomb proposal. His name is John Alexander, and he lives in a large house in Las Vegas filled with books by his friend Uri Geller. I found him slightly scary. He kept giving me hard looks and saying, "What's your name again?" whenever I asked him a question he didn't like.

Then there's the prophet hologram - "the projection of the image of an ancient god over an enemy capitol whose public communications have been seized and used against it in a massive psychological operation."

Commentators have suggested that the Pentagon must be embarrassed that these crazy endeavours have come to light, but I suspect they are pleased: it makes human-rights abuses seem amusingly hare-brained as opposed to chilling. US military scientists believe it is their calling to reach out to the furthest corners of their imaginations to try these things out, and once in a while they invent something that actually works. The Taser gun was nurtured by Alexander.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:21 PM
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13. Early 60's Mountains of NC late at night
I was with my Dad and Uncle who were fishing. (and drinking beer)

We got a very good, clear look. It was a prototypical shape. Flat on the bottom, domed top. A light matte pewter color with a very small (relatively) dome on top. This had a light.

There were also lights on the bottom, 5 round circles surrounding one larger circle. These rotated clockwise as it flew about 30 feet above our heads and across the river (so we had an open and exceptional view, unobstructed the entire time) where it stopped, hovered and lowered into the woods. It was probably 1000-1200 square feet in area and a story and a half (15-20) feet high.

As I said: I know these objects exist. They are unidentified in that the general person doesn't know anything about them. I cannot say whether it was "manned" or unmanned. I will not hazard a guess as to who (what?) was controlling it.

That's as far as anyone should be willing to take it if they want to be taken seriously.


My Favorite Master Artist: Karen Parker GhostWoman Studios
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:38 PM
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17. I've seen several, also with other eyewitnesses. One from about
100 yards away. All of them flew like nothing I've seen here on earth before.

I think that my mom saw one of the "pilots" once. There was a stretch of road in Ohio where both my father and some of his friends (on separate occasions) had seen cigar shaped craft that zipped around and hovered at a dead stop. My mom (then a big skeptic) was driving through the area one evening and her radio cut off. She was fiddling with it when her headlights caught a "person" far up the road walking along the right side. Something seemed "off" about it even from a great distance. The closer she got to it, the more her hair stood on end. It was about eight to nine feet tall and probably only weighed 100 pounds.It moved slowly-almost as if it were underwater. It had impossibly long, stick like arms and was holding a long silver pole in one hand which it was moving back and forth along the road. As she drove up behind it it turned towards her, and on it's face instead of features were three silver disks; two where the eyes would be, and one for the mouth. She screamed and drove away as quickly as she could. My mom is one of these very German, stoic women who never gets her feathers ruffled, so my father was shocked when she came home hysterical that evening. She never mentioned it again after that night. Years later, my dad found a photo in a men's magazine that was taken my a Sheriff that appeared to be the same thing. The Sheriff said that he also had seen it at the side of the road, and that he was submitting it to the men's magazine because no one else would publish it or tell his story. My dad showed it to my mother and she became hysterical all over again, so we've never mentioned it around her since.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:23 AM
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8. UFO DOES NOT EQUAL ALIENS. Skepticism can blind one to possibilities.
The sheer number of sightings in this case means that there was some observable phenomena. Given the proximity of the region of sightings to a military base, the likely explanation is some sort of military aircraft. This leads to a more important question, "what is the military doing conducting operations over US cities?"

J
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 AM
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9. Its an alien rubbernecker jam-up-they are just stopping by to see the mess we made of earth
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 AM by bronxiteforever
n/t
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 AM
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10. I can't avoid thinking of the line at a seafood restaurant where the patrons pick out their lobster.
:scared:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:06 AM
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11. "It's a COOKBOOK!!"
:evilgrin:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:20 PM
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24. I remember that.
:hi:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:27 AM
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27. It was a good one, wasn't it?
:hi:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:19 AM
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12. The odds of any extra-terrestrial beings arriving at Earth are
very close to nil. However, the sighting of a unidentified flying object is credible. There is a huge distinction between the two. Somehow the UFO sightings seem to get lumped in with the assumption that UFOs are assumed to be the vehicles for extraterrestrials.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:41 PM
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15. "There is a huge distinction between the two" for those with a brain
> Somehow the UFO sightings seem to get lumped in with the assumption
> that UFOs are assumed to be the vehicles for extraterrestrials.

Only by the truly ignorant.

But there again, looking at other current events, that *does* appear
to be the majority ...
:-(
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:47 PM
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20. I hate to say it but I don't think the human race has enough
sense to survive. Old over the world, the worst possible choices are being made. Could greed be at the root of most of the destructive behavior?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:42 PM
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18. How do you know? We humans have always thought that we understood
all there is to know about our planet and the universe, and yet we are perpetually proven wrong.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:51 PM
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21. I don't conclusively know and I didn't say that I did. Considering
the physical conditions necessary for life, the mathematics of the Universe would point toward the probability of live throughout the realm. However, the relative small size of the solar system compared to the size of the known Universe would make the odds of any life form showing up at Earth
extremely unlikely.

Do you think that there is life elsewhere in the Universe? And, do you think some life forms may someday visit Earth?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 PM
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14. The truth is out there
and the governments have lied to you

whats hard to believe about that

They lied of WMD
they lie about UFOS
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:18 PM
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22. ...and our government continues to lie to us and abuse those of us who
question them on anything.

http://www.strangeculture.net/

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:42 AM
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26. .... and these ET's only visit the United States? /nt
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messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:59 AM
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28. hmm
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:25 PM
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19. NUFORC reports on the incident here:
National UFO Reporting Center
http://www.nuforc.org
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:59 PM
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25. Well, my two cents worth is simply this...
anyone who goes out into the desert at night, or out on a lake in the evening where there is no light pollution from society and looks up at the skies and thinks we are the only planet with intelligent life among all those other twinkling stars has a huge ego problem.

I have never seen a UFO (would love to, but would be scared to death probably) but I don't think they don't exist.

HOWEVER, that being said, do I believe the military is up to stuff - you bet. As my dad is retired AF, I can remember many times he would just come home shaking his head - couldn't talk about much, just shook his head.

My problem is that we all seem to think that other life forms would be bipodal and human formed. That is just plain ignorant. They could look like amoeba for all we know.

Yepper, there are plenty of credible people (and kooky ones as well) who have seen something our limited minds cannot fathom and so therefore just lump it all into UFO categories.

Folks, it's a big universe out there. And I think Reagan knew we had 'visitors' and that also was part of his star wars military buildups...course his astrolger could have been wrong too. LOL!!!!
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:28 PM
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23. Jesus was piloting that ufo.
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