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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:17 PM
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Michelle Bachman: "Iran will get half of Iraq"..no source, but she knows this..
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:18 PM by MnFats
www.startribune.com


Bachmann on Iran: “There’s already an agreement made. going to get half of Iraq and that is going to be a terrorist safe haven zone.” February 23rd, 2007 – 11:29 AM by Eric Black
U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann claims to know of a plan, already worked out with a line drawn on the map, for the partition of Iraq in which Iran will control half of the country and set it up as a “a terrorist safe haven zone” and a staging area for attacks around the Middle East and on the United State
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:25 PM
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1. File this under WILL. NOT. HAPPEN.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:27 PM by ShortnFiery
Aside from the fact that the Iraqi people are fiercely nationalistic, Vietnam and the early 20th Century UK FAILED Occupation proves the opposite. That is, the Iraqis will kick out the invaders. Like mean ole' Commies did not come down from China to take over Vietnam, Iran will NOT control Iraq. If our troops leave, the LOCALS will focus on throwing out the OTHER foreign invaders to include Al Quaeda. In essence, we are delaying the eventual return to Iraqi's stability.

This is more "Evil Persians" fear mongering in both it's most twisted and desperate forms. :thumbsdown:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:43 PM
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4. I guess that vicious war from 1980 to 1988 slipped her mind
I guess she thinks all them towel heads are alike. They sure look alike and none of em worships the real god, yanno?

What an airhead! Not only do they remember losing family members during that war; not only do they remember all too clearly getting whiffs of cyanide and having their houses damaged in missile attacks, they're completely different ethnic groups who don't share anything, not even the language of the Koran.

We need to get ignorant psalm singing robots out of Congress. This toothy wretch whose adoration of Stupid after the SOTU alarmed even his most ardent supporters needs to be one of the first.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:27 PM
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2. who's plan is it? Is she saying Iraq and Iran are in cahoots?
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:53 PM by maddezmom
Bachmann’s reasons for sticking with the stay-until-victory camp, and her beliefs, stated as established fact, that Iran has reached an agreement to divide Iraq and set up a free-terrorism zone.

Any way she sounds way :crazy:


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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:45 PM
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5. Oh, God. I'm going to hate saying this...
because I don't think she has a clue what reality is, but here goes.

Remember when Bush went to Jordan to meet with al-Maliki? And al-Sadr threatened al-Maliki that he would put him out of power if he met with Bush? And al-Maliki 'snubbed' Bush for a day?

Weellllll, while the cables were making a very big deal of the snub, it was barely a blip that Iraq's President al-Talabani was quoted as saying 'we're in complete agreement'. Here's good article about it (note also of Iran's commitment of $1 billion for reconstruction of schools, hospitals, pipelines and power plants with no-bid contracts).

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/16129211.htm
"Talabani said the two countries "had complete agreement" in three days of talks. Talabani, who has had good relations over the years with both Iranian and U.S. leaders, has been portrayed as pivotal in finding support for Iraq from Iran, a longtime U.S. adversary.

Some analysts had suggested that Talabani could possibly open some avenues of communication between Iran and the United States, but there was no hint of a broader agenda from the Iraqi leader's comments Wednesday.

"We can clearly say that the trip has been 100 percent successful," Talabani said. "And I would like to give the Iraqi nation the good news that the fruitful result of this trip will soon be seen by them."

Talabani met with top ministers in the government and the Islamic Republic's supreme leader and he indicated that the Iranian elite understood the threat that the violence posed for the region. U.S. officials, however, believe Iran has been involved in backing some of the militias linked to the unrest in Iraq, and the Bush administration has expressed skepticism about Iran's interest."
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:54 PM
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6. thanks for the link, I do remember the meetings
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:19 PM by maddezmom
but I think Michele may be stretching the truth a bit. At least I hope so. :scared:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:19 PM
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9. It's what I said many weeks ago - clues point to a partnership with
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 02:20 PM by higher class
Iran. Those ships are there fully loaded to protect PNAC and head honchos against Saudi Arabia and other Sunni focused countries. Their surge is what they've already done - sending our ships, our men, our equipment, our money to the Gulf. They probably already knew they were going to after one or another country (religion). They probably found out exactly what they were going to do when Cheney went to meet with the House of Saud.

Why not isolate a peninsula and some islands and stick with the mainland - that way they can control the entire area from India and the northern countries to Israel and the Mediterranean, plus the Black Sea with safe pipelines and ports in the Mediterranean rather than depending on the Suez - at least until after all is controlled.

Think Hollywood script.

Kurdistan in the North - deals can be made with them and Turkey.

Sunnis's in the middle with the recent announcement that there is oil there where they didn't think it was - so they have self-sufficiency and containment and us selling it to them.

Shia's in the south.

Iran - Shia.

Now do we know why 'the PNAC' Embassy in Iraq is so large? Baghdad will be the territory of PNAC, friends, and friendly countries. With ships permanently anchored and cruising.

bin Laden and all the others did not want us on their soil - we'll be mostly on the water.

Why not? Think script.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:29 PM
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3. Yeah, well, if so, we won the war for Iran, so who's to blame?
You go overthrow a secular dictator and try to impose 'democracy' on a majority
shiite country, and bingo, you get a country that likes Iran a lot and gee whiz, they're gonna want a religious government
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:57 PM
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7. LOL
Michele Bachmann is Wonkette's new replacement candidate for Katherine "Pink Sugar" Harris. :)
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 02:18 PM
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8. More Whackballishness
“Iran is the trouble maker, trying to tip over apple carts all over Baghdad right now because they want America to pull out. And do you know why? It’s because they’ve already decided that they’re going to partition Iraq.

And half of Iraq, the western, northern portion of Iraq, is going to be called…. the Iraq State of Islam, something like that. And I’m sorry, I don’t have the official name, but it’s meant to be the training ground for the terrorists. There’s already an agreement made.

They are going to get half of Iraq and that is going to be a terrorist safe haven zone where they can go ahead and bring about more terrorist attacks in the Middle East region and then to come against the United States because we are their avowed enemy.”

http://www.startribune.com/blogs/bigquestion/?p=554

Some of the comments are as retarded as Michelle Bachmann
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:26 PM
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10. Michele Bachmann Knows Secret U.S. Surrender Plan For Iraq (Wonkette)
http://wonkette.com.nyud.net:8090/images/thumbs/aad699cc0361ae1e315e7bb32fe66d58.jpg

Our nation’s loopiest congresslady has revealed Top Secret government intelligence plans to give half of Iraq to Iran. The new half-country will be a special terrorist safe haven, says Rep. Michele Bachmann, and it’s going to be called “the Iraq State of Islam, something like that.” ... We’re pretty sure Cheney and Libby will have her suicided; first she sexually assaults the president, and now she’s announcing Washington’s most crucial secret information to journalists?

http://wonkette.com/
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:32 PM
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11. Which half would that be?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 04:46 AM
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12. Bachman backtracks
Bachmann eases up on Iran views
She had claimed it plans to partition Iraq, train terrorists
BY FREDERIC J. FROMMER
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Rep. Michele Bachmann, who claimed in a recent interview to know of an Iranian plan to partition Iraq and turn half of it into a "terrorist haven" to launch attacks in the Middle East, said Friday that she was "sorry if my words have been misconstrued."

"Although it is difficult to ascertain Iran's intentions toward Iraq, they are clearly not in the U.S. interest — for example, the Iranian weapons that have fallen into the hands of insurgents," Bachmann, a freshman Minnesota Republican, said in a statement after media coverage of her earlier comments.

"If Iran is allowed to freely operate in Iraq and continues to thwart the U.S. and the Iraqi government, then we may very well see a de facto partition in which the western Anbar province continues to house and develop terrorists."

That was well short of her earlier comments to the St. Cloud Times, in which Bachmann said: "Iran is the troublemaker, trying to tip over apple carts all over Baghdad right now because they want America to pull out. And you know why? It's because they've already decided that they're going to partition Iraq."

more:http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/16772174.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_local
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 08:39 AM
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13. Rep. Bachmann regards anything she hears from wingnut propagandists as unassailable fact.
Then she works to mold public policy to fit the propaganda.

In Michele's world, Terry Schiavo was "healthy":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f13Dj2HaRWg

and global warming doesn't exist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX1UnAtynU&NR

I was sitting barely twenty feet from her when those Schiavo comments were filmed. I also recall her starting out that debate by breathlessly declaring that, just that very day, "the media" had announced that Democrats had known for a long time that Republican congressman Mark Foley was a child sex predator, but had witheld the information until they could use it to their best political advantage, callously leaving those teenage House pages exposed to risk. Turns out "the media" was Rush Limbaugh.

During her stint as a Minnesota state senator, she would rush to introduce legislation based on rumours she picked up from right-wing websites. For example, she once introduced a bill to make it legal to teach Minnesota schoolchildren about the Declaration of Independence. Huh? Isn't it already legal to do that?

Well, it turns out she'd been following a story being pushed on the Drudge Report and elsewhere, in which it was claimed that a California schoolteacher had actually been fired for teaching kids about the Declaration of Independence. In reality, the teacher had been fired for religious proselytizing. Despite warnings, he'd persisted in handing out religious pamphlets to his students. Some of those pamphlets made oblique references to the Declaration of Independence.

After hearing from right-wing commentators that the colleges were full of liberal professors who persecuted conservative students, Bachmann was pushing for legislation to require univeristies to hire more conservative professors.

There's more information about Bachmann than you can stand at http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/
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